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Interesting debate. Using the precedent of mainstream actors' wiki pages to argue for the removal of body stats may be questionable, as the word "actor" was (arguably) grandfathered in for pornographic performers. There is rarely if any "acting" (as musical theater majors might use the term) involved
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This is not the content one would expect to find in an encyclopedia article, and the excessive amount of intricate detail takes away from the performers career. I do acknowledge that some performers are notable, but I believe we should be applying the same standards as to the mainstream actors or
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