Talk:Ayaan Hirsi Ali/Archive 3

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these views, and appears to be more informed then many of a similar ilk, it doesn't change the fact the views she are most strong about are not something which most liberal think-thanks are predominantly interested in. Liberals tend to be more interested in reducing conflict and/or recognising the problems of all religions, not on attacking Islam. She appears to dislike all religions and is pro-abortion which is something most American conservatives wouldn't agree with, but these views are not something she focuses on. Anyway this is OT so I won't be discussing it any further

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changed the word "my" to "Hirsi Ali's" and put that phrase in single square brackets to show that I had changed the words -- but not the meaning -- of a direct quotation to fit the grammar, in this case from third to first person. This is standard citation practice. I guess a lot of well-meaning people don't know this, and assume it is a typo (of which I make many). So I have changed the square brackets to rounded parentheses, and hope this stops the confusion.

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mentally cherry pick her strong stance against "backwards" (Ali's words) Islamic values but turns a blind eye to the fact she recognizes no god, not just Allah. Remember, she comes from countries where sharia has been imposed and has been on the receiving end of the abuses of the integration of church and state. Anyway, just look at who else is at AEI: Kagan, Perle, John Yoo, to name just a few: these guys are heavy hitting neo-cons....--

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good-faith edit. As I don't have time to keep reverting it to what is strictly correct, I will insert something half-way correct and hope it stays without causing trouble. If two people so quickly see and change something that they believe is a simple copy edit, I have no reason to doubt that many others in the future will do the same thing, out of good will, but erroneously.

186:, "a conservative think tank". They may not be paleoconservatives in the mold of Patrick Buchanan, but they maintain very close ties with the current administration, and have a history of uncritically lauding their moves. They're about as nonpartisan as Karl Rove. If you want to dispute the characterization of AEI as a conservative think tank, please take it over there. 1002:- how she came to realise that she did not believe in God. See especially pages 280-81 where she describes her realisation while on a holiday in Corfu in 2002, and how it affected her. Page 281: "One night in that Greek hotel I looked in the mirror and said out loud, 'I don't believe in God.' I said it slowly, enunciating it carefully, in Somali. And I felt relief." 1928:'s work, for example." is meaningless and irrelevant. What was there before (true or not) actually made sense in the article. The point is that the Freud section was not simply deleted, but replaced by essentially nonsense. I'm reverting to the last version before the edit war. After that we can work along the tried 3170:

Just because you think it should be there is not a reason for that word to stay either. When what accounts "human rights" itself is contentious, how can you say that just because she oppose genital mutation, she is a human rights activist?..There are many, both Muslims amd non Muslims who oppose this

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Removing a complete paragraph with 3 sentences because part of it is unreferenced can be called vandalism, especially if he is doing it again. While original research can be removed immediately, unreferenced parts can be retained if it fits into the article otherwise, with "fact" tag. There are other

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That’s like asking if I see positive sides to Nazism, communism, Catholicism. Of course Islam preaches generosity and kindness and taking care of the poor and elderly and so on – but these values aren’t limited to Islam. If you weigh what is provided in terms of kindness and humanity against the evil

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Your (indeed) very short section was both POV, OR _and_ unreferenced, which IMO certainly warrants swift deletion. Your new version indeed got rid of most of the problems, but still contained a blatant POV part (which I deleted). If you want the "while championing more checks on immigrants of Muslim

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This article has problems - the lovey-dovey treatment Ayaan Hirsi Ali gets from us is a bit nauseating. However, it would be tolerable were it not that it contrasts so starkly with the way we treat other religions - including (or perhaps especially) critics thereof. There is a vast imbalance, easily

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Islam is backward, Muhammed was this, etc etc, what is the name for this? her entire career is about cursing islam, she is an apostate of the faith, associated with anti-Islamic content, what better example do you need. And then Netscott says no refence in article. Have you read this article? Critic

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You may be right; Hirsi Ali is quite a fixture among conservatives in the United States because she agrees with them on issues of importance here--which has absolutely nothing at all to do with her domestic politics on other issues. So while she may be conservative to Americans, she may be something

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I did some more reading and you are correct and I was wrong. The link that I inserted was not just a transcript of the documentary, but a protest against the Dutch documentary. The protest was directed not so much against the contents of the documentary, but the suggestion that Hirsi Ali was a liar

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I removed a link to a POV PDF file (so-called transcript of Zembla TV broadcast). Example of POV: "Here Zembla’s story is confusing. First they suggest that Ayaan stems from a rich family, now it appears that she wanted to marry for an airplane ticket to Europe. This reasoning is not compatible. If

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Two of the accounts editing the article are probably sock puppets of the person who was editing this article. He/She had 3 or 4 sock puppets and was banned...and some of the edits to the article you're referring to resembles the material that was being insterted in this article. I'm going to ask an

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As I'm not an expert on the subject, I can't decide who is "right" or "wrong", and as it has been a content dispute and revert war with multiple participants that last ten days, I decided the best action is to restore the article to the revisions that existed before the war broke out. I urge you to

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All the edits seem to be made by the same unregistered user from Richardson, TX. These edits are of poor quality and very POV, and not at all limited to "sorting the events by date". So again: please start a discusion and allow people the time to check the edits, instead of making a million changes

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I actually gave my copy to a friend as a gift, so I don't have it to hand. But I don't remember it saying anything that explicit, which is part of the reason why I deleted that particular sentence; unlike some others with cite tags, it looks difficult to source. Of course, I'm relying on memory and

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I guess I would welcome some explanation of how this quote adds up to a position of anti-Catholicism - I have to admit I'm mystified. My interpretation is that she's saying any ideology has both positive and negative aspects that must be weighed against each other when deciding the overall value of

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It's not that surprising that conservative think thanks are more interested in her then liberal ones. It says much more about her then about the think-thanks. She is primarily noteable for her very vocal attacks on Islam, which many people feel are bordering on xenophobia. While she has a right for

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Are you seriously proposing that the intro need to include such details as the fact that she is currently living in the Netherlands pending the provision of security arrangments in the US? If that kind of detail goes into the intro, what doesn't? The intro is supposed to be a general overview of

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The GA/R nomination resulted in a decision for this article to remain delisted. Several concerns were brought up in the first review which resulted in the delistment of the article. The suggestions for improvement made during that review have clearly been ignored. Although there are several issues

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Thanks, that works. You may well be right about "some kind of hint" -- but also that it is trivial in the overall scale of things. I have no more thinking power at the moment! I rather like the elegance of hidden code. It serves to educate those who delve behind the scene -- those who take the

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The problem is that this is a particular form of quotation. I took the words directly from the Evening Standard article, and in this passage Hirsi Ali is speaking in her own words, so of course she says "my favourite liberal thinkers". But the grammar of the entry requires the third person, so I

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The article contains the text "Hirsi Ali still has six weeks to react to this before any final decision about her citizenship is taken", which should probably be replaced by an actual date. But this wikipedia article is my only source of information about her, so I don't know what the true status

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I'm adding it back. Just because you personally think these groups don't count doesn't mean they're not valid groups. Also, she is an outspoken advocate of ending genital mutilation for one, yet you've removed "human rights activist" from the opening sentence by saying, "Nope, she's not one." Um,

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Simply saying "Hirsi Ali, being atheist and pro-choice, is not a typical conservative, thus AEI, by hiring her, ipso facto is not conservative" is not a valid argument. I too was perplexed by this hire, being that AEI is widely acknowledged as a conservative think-tank. I think what AEI does is

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I suggest that you (a) register properly instead of hiding behind various IP numbers and sockpuppets and (b) start discussing some very specific points you want to see changed. After consensus is reached, the article can then be edited. Also, keep in mind that your (or my) opinion on Ali and her

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On the "Religion Atheism" tag: last I heard atheism still wasn't a religion yet (although one could describe some fanantical non-believers as such I suppose but) in general this applies to both "strong" or "weak" (agnostic) atheism varieties so this label either needs to be removed or rewritten:

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If you think those categoties are inappropriate you can seek their deletion. The second one sounds to me as if it could be applied pretty objectively, not so sure about the first one. But we're here to discuss this article and how to improve it, not whether certain existing categories that don't

1526:. Shahak lost confidence in his religion over the use of a telephone for a life-saving call on a holy day, and over the response of scholars when he queried it. Our article implies he lied on both counts, and that the behavior he describes couldn't be based on any kind of religious rules anyway. 804:, not Hirsi Ali. The paragraph as it remains is fairly innocuous, especially if you read the full quote from the source article. I'm going to wait a couple of days for objections, but if there are none I'll remove both the 'POV' tag and the Catholicism para (or find a way to put it in context). 555:

Oh dear. Twice in the past few hours, editors with good intentions have incorrectly changed something I had inserted with good reason. The first time, I changed it back, and wrote why in the edit summary (for which that editor thanked me). The second editor must not have read this, and made a

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Knowledge (XXG) is very sensitive to the harm that it can do to living people by publishing poorly sourced and damaging material about them. That applies Ms Hirsi Ali and anyone else. Hence the template on the top of this page. People removing such material are just doing their job, even if the

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How to deal with OR - I have already written my opinion. But if adding unreferenced tag is vandalism, the page already has a few of them, which Im wondering why is not "swiftly removed". The accepted Wiki norm is challenging it etc. The "citation needed" can be produced by atleast half a dozen

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what's meant. She's certainly now living in the US (there were multiples references to this in an interview she gave to the BBC), but I doubt she's lost Dutch citizenship. That would only happen if she's already been granted US citizenship (which I'd doubt), and that Dutch law recognises the

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Excuse me but this entry Ayaan Hirsi Ali is quite lengthy, but has no distinct section for criticism. Her critic are wide and varied and should amount to lengthy section. This article minimizes critics and obfuscates the aura of controversy around many of her political stand (not just to with

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Well, I actually do know the convention of using square brackets in that way, and of course it is strictly correct. For some reason it wasn't transparent to me that that was what was meant the first time I read it, perhaps because it didn't seem like a quote from Hirsi Ali herself but from a

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Can you please provide a source for your assertion that AEI is a conservative organization? On their website, they present their agenda as essentially libertarian. The fact that Hirsi Ali is a pro-choice atheist doesn't really fit with the 'conservative' tag. RJASE1 23:43, 15 February 2007

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She has Dutch citizenship, technically she never lost it. This is just a tense issue, as the article was expanded considerably during the 2006 crisis. I intend to radically review this article some time this year, because I believe it can become FA. Then I will look at these issues.

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Why is this at the top of the whole article? If one section is likely to get spammed, could the tag not go at the top of that section? It just looks so ugly. It's not as if the article is about a commerical product or a medical issue that would prompt salespeople to target it.

1605:... "The Ethiopian girls with whom I shared the bungalow at first seemed frivolous and hopelessly silly. They said I was so lucky to be from a country mired in civil war, which meant I was far more likely than they get refugee status and be allowed to live in Europe." 1874:

We're having a very agressive user (unregistered, operating from Richardson, TX) working on the article, who is making an enormous amount of POV/poor quality edits. I've tried to correct a few times, but he keeps reverting. Opinions? Should the page be protected?

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I just added another a new article link to the criticism section of further reading. I hope someone has the time to go through these articles and expand the criticism section actually in the article. It's rather tiny for such a controversial figure as Hirsi Ali.

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user XSP85 is drawing conclusions where none are warranted and trying to insert a section based on his interpretation of what he thinks she is meaning. That's really OR. Her statement is neither positive or negative on those ideologies, Thus I have removed this

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I'll take it over there...my objection to this is that, in the U.S., the terms "conservative" and "liberal" are POV-loaded and I don't think either fits Hirsi Ali. But you're right, the adjective in this case applies to the organization, not the individual.

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Also her characterization that the Arab/Islamic world is "retarded" was a gross oversimplification as there are many predominantly Muslim countries which are way ahead of predominantly Christian countries in Sub Saharan Africa and Latin America in terms of

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I won't start an edit war, but your section is so blatantly POV and OR that it can't stay the way it is. Please improve it - a criticism section is fine, but needs to be balanced. In the mean time, I will add fact tags and wait for feedback from others.

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to understand how very badly we treat Islam compared with other major religions. At the latter article, an Israeli Professor of Chemistry who was critical of extremists within his own religion, Judaism, gets absolutely slated by us eg from his article -

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The (unattributed, unreferenced) sentence "while championing more checks on immigrants of Muslim origin" is your personal opinion, and hence utterly irrelevant to the article. Provide reference, and formulate in an unbiased way, and it can go in again.

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that's not really giving a reason why it should be removed. The right not to be butchered in order to satisfy some archaic practice condoned by radical Muslims is a basic human right. I'll remove the word 'numerous,' but the awards line is staying.

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I have had another idea -- do it correctly, and insert invisibly into the code the warning not to change the single square bracket. I'd prefer to avoid an unnecessary first person, especially in the non-narrative bibliography section. As follows:

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Should remain documented that only "Ali" and not "Magan" or "Hirsi" got published in govn't newspaper "Staatscourant" and 2003 elections lists at VVD party #16. Furthermore with one MP-seat per 60.000 votes, around 1 out of 300 voted for her.

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Actually, Aminz can "just delist" it, he just has to have a justification, which he does have, even if it may not be correct, that's how speedy delisting works. Of course, that doesn't mean someone couldn't of immedietly GA/R'ed it anyway....

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For such a controversial writer, the article includes very little criticism of her views. (There is plenty of discussion about the falsehoods she told to stay in the Netherlands.) For balance, it would be good to have such criticism, but it

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The single square bracket is correct here. It is not a typo. It represents the changing of something within a direct quotation -- in this case, from first to third person. The article at bracket gives more examples of this standard citation

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I agree. The only two reviews of Hirsi Ali's new book that I came across in the past couple weeks were in the Economist and the one by Lorainne Ali in Newsweek. Both were very critical of her and her work. For the Newsweek review, see here:

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different tags. A biography of a controversial person without any critisicm section itself shows how one-sided the whole content was.Whether adding unrefernced claims would be considered Vandalism or not depends on one's own POV, isn't it?

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disavowal of other citizenships in the US (which I wouldn't take as read: I know that the law in Ireland and the UK cheerfully ignores this as fanciful rhetoric...); or she's voluntarily renounced it (which may not even be possible).

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But it's polite practice to give the editors some time to fix the issues first, then delist. The project is not harmed by giving a 7-day reprieve (like that given to GA nominees in any case other than gross failure of the criteria). -

651:: Okay, let's see how it goes. I still wouldn't mind some kind of hint that the words quoted are her own - I think that should be made more obvious to our readers somehow. But I'll leave you to think about that. It's not a big deal. 1790:

Just take a look at this slapstick, for example (quote from the article): "Ali married by her own choice. She married a man that she knew and she attended her own wedding. She received ample financial support from her husband.".

609:. As described by Hirsi Ali, this will be a philosophical fantasy in which Muhammad wakes up in the New York Public Library and is "challenged by John Stuart Mill, Frederick Hayek and Karl Popper, my favourite liberal thinkers." 1451:

that need to be addressed in order for this article to meet GA, the one that stands out most to almost every reviewer who has made recommendations on this article is the presence of 25 fact tags. This is unacceptable and fails

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This section should be allowed. Since it will be unfair to Islamic people. Thats is her view on Christianity. She is also Anti-Christianity as she is Anti-Islam. She is atheist. I removed POV, but keeping Catholicism comments.

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There are indeed references. Tf there are still some sentences with POV, you can challenge and discuss those sentences instead of deleting the whole section. Looking into Wiki templates for dispute management would be a good

800:) left a tag on the article that it has POV issues, but never left a note on this page saying what his concerns were. I also had to remove a libellous quote from the new "Catholicism" paragraph that the source attributed to 2441:

today, and was hoping some of regular contributors on this topic would take a look at it. I know Ali is a controversial person, but some of the claims in the new article come across as defamatory. I've posted a notice at

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I don't side with anyone, true that there was an 3RR violation, but I decided that everyone in the dispute has editwarring, and either I would block you all for a period of time, or I protect the page. I choose the latter.

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Good someone is listening. The article has now completely deteriorated due to many spelling errors and lots of POV edits. I suggest to revert to one of the older versions and to avoid edit torrents like this in the future.

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Halaqah, having that view is fine but if any particular individual is going to be labeled as having "anti-Islam sentiment" then there had better be reliable sources using wording along those lines relative to her (this per

726:, a philosophical fantasy in which Muhammad wakes up in the New York Public Library and is "challenged by John Stuart Mill, Frederick Hayek and Karl Popper", who Hirsi Ali describes as her "favourite liberal thinkers". 330:

is not the same as Anti-Islamic sentiment. I critic Muslims "Muslims need to be more involved in stamping out extreamism" but "Islam is a primative religion of pedophiles" is not a critic it is religious intolerance.--

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Sorry for the late reply - I think I may have mistakenly put it on this article when I meant to put it on another, sorry for that. That said, the external links section of the article probably needs to be pruned. :)

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FWIW I think atheism should be included in the basic info boax about her: it is a strong part of her identity and has relevance on her notableness (noteriety?) and thus why she is included in the encyclopedia.

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Is there a tool within Knowledge (XXG) to find out who put the above anonymous comment? I'd like to learn how to do this. To the anonymous contributor: please add the criticisms you mention, with references.

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I'm well aware of your edit's replacement of the video with the transcript. I just mentioned it to let people know why I removed since this is a controversial article and has been the victim of alot of POV

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This sentence was removed because no citation is given. It provides useful context for the fast-tracking of ther refugeee status, however, and I seem to recall reading something to this effect in the book

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as if these words were both acceptable speech and true. We're invited to accept what she says about the behavior of Muslims - when she made a particular point of telling damaging lies on this very subject!

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journalist's words, so I thought it was a typo (hence my thanks when you corrected me). I'm really not sure what is best - I'd rather not use the less correct round brackets - but I'll leave it for now.

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practice, but they all are not human right activists. If you want to call her this holy name, then bring more arguments, proper neutral references and then we can think. Until that, the word cannot go.

567:, a philosophical fantasy in which Muhammad wakes up in the New York Public Library and is "challenged by John Stuart Mill, Frederick Hayek and Karl Popper, (Hirsi Ali's) favourite liberal thinkers". 3089:. Tying three individual references together to reach an independent conclusion is OR. As far as I can see (and correct me if I am wrong), this joint statement is not made in any of the references. 2991:

parts of the article with similar sentences. Even users who had otherwise removed Vandalism is not necessarily interested in an unbiased article which would represent all the facets of the subject.

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That's fine if sourced into the article. However, the Catholicism section was a dumb way to express that, unless we're going to have a paragraph for each religious sect that she doesn't believe in.

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plunge from reader to editor. I think the article is better now than a few days ago, but it does need reasonable, verifiable criticism of her views, although I'm not going to go searching for it.

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So do you think she deserves to be in hiding and is guilty of some kind of "sin" against islam? Do you think free speech in Holland should be restricted when it comes to criticizing a religion?--

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I've applied for review of the delisting, which I consider unreasonable. I will, however, do some copyediting to ensure it is at the standard of good style it was at when it was listed.

738:, a philosophical fantasy in which Muhammad wakes up in the New York Public Library and is "challenged by John Stuart Mill, Frederick Hayek and Karl Popper, favourite liberal thinkers". 714:, a philosophical fantasy in which Muhammad wakes up in the New York Public Library and is "challenged by John Stuart Mill, Frederick Hayek and Karl Popper, favourite liberal thinkers". 1529:

Meanwhile, this subject told lies about her name, age and how she reached the Netherlands, and has admitted the falsifications in several media interviews since 2002. Yet we quote her:

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six weeks, at that point in time, and is referring to the period from May 16 (the date given for the parliamentary debate), and June 27 (the date given for the announcement that she'd

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Undid unfair removal - I think the user who did this again after having been given lengthy explanation doesn't deserve another explanation for something which I would call Vandalism.

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Somalia had been stricken by a serious famine as well as engulfed in a civil war at that time, so asylum seekers from Somalia were routinely granted asylum on humanitarian grounds.

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Returning to Aminz' orginal point, the article includes criticism of Ali's stances. I only took a cursory glance at the article and saw several mentions of criticism of this woman.

3077:'s version is better, but it still seems to me that three references are tied together to make a personal statement. What we need is a reference where it is explicitly stated that 1543:

Yes PR, everyone who reads this is invited to draw their own conclusions, including you, we do not spoonfeed our readers. That is part of our NPOV policy. If you don't like it....

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and that the documentary gave any new information. It is true that most issues highlighted by the documentary had already been openly admitted by Ayaan Hirsi Ali herself.

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I have reverted the page to the state it was before the edit torrent. Please start a discussion _before_ making radical changes to the article. Consensus is a good thing!

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The general feeling around is that we should not have a "religion" of atheism in these boxes. E.g. I'm sure you'll find a lot of support for this on the talk page for the

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To describe her as living "undercover" is not correct; I have seen no information indicating that she is living incognito. That she continues to live under protection

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The following sentence nmakes no sense. I assume it was messed up in a previous edit but am not sure how to find out. Can anyone correct it and re-add it ? Thanks.

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I prefer the first version without any square brackets. Since the article is semi-locked I can't make any changes to the article myself, so could someone else do it?

1901:'s work, for example.". Hilarious, actually. And there are numerous examples of such low quality edits! Hardly the work of "professionals with good reputations". 927:

recently I'm pretty sure she is anti-religion in general, as well as being opposed to other comprehensive ideologies such as Nazism and communism. She sees them

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As a self-declared critic of Islam, she should have been criticized by Muslims and others. Does the article include that? If not, then it should be included. --

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Per the new information about the sockpuppeteering, I have changed the protection to semiprotection instead (indefinite at the moment). Have a happy editing

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Exhibit A of why you are too biased to contribute to this article. Please do not edit this article anymore until consensus is made. I'm trying to be civil.--

2105:. Making such large and numerous POV edits to a controversial article goes against WP standards. Also, Leaveout notified Admin. of supposed "wrongdoing" by 1956:"honesty and loyalty are not among her stronger qualities" is your personal point of view, and that POV does not belong in Knowledge (XXG). Please read the 1263: 1491:

Muslims, but to do with economics, geopolitics etc.) I challenge the neutrality of this article, especially in the way it is composed and framed. daveb

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work". What number would make "numerous"? And the awards you get from like minded people and political parties cannot make you a human rights activist.

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Ali has been criticised for making inaccurate judgements and sweeping generalizations about Islam and Muslims, quite often to win points among Western

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that can come from a society built on radical Islam, you will see that liberals must stand up to this like they’ve stood up to other ideologies.

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I added only referenced criticism. Now as the section has been restructured, it is quite clear who is criticizing and what is being criticized

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I saw that, but then I replaced the link with an English transcript without stating that she is a liar and that is not a copyright violation.

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This page is undergoing some pretty agressive edits that are largely unreferenced, and IMO quite POV. Maybe time for some discussion on this?

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The article says "After earning a master's degree in political science from Leiden University, ...". So I would infer that "MA" is short for "

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From January 2003 to June 2006, she worked shortlisted number 16 Ali, A. H. (Ayaan) (v) as chosen MP for the party with 30.758 election votes.

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Actually, I just noticed this article is listed as a "good article." IMHO, that's pretty ridiculous for exactly the reasons mentioned above.

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Information about her temporary status certainly shouldn't be in the intro - only information which has permanent relevance belongs there.

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That's what I thought. There's no reason to have that on her name then, many thousands of Knowledge (XXG) subjects have masters degrees. --

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try to find a solution to this problem, and if this is not possible, additional steps in the dispute resolution process has to be made.

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is. Given that she wrote an article for the latimes, though, I guess that she already moved to the US and lost her Dutch citizenship.

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Sure, the details can go, but the fact that she is still living undercover, and has been for a long time, should be in the intro IMO.

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of the article and some others have also done good work over at the peer review. Could we put some work into addressing their points?

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Edward Alexander stated that Shahak "was a disturbed mind who made a career out of recycling Nazi propaganda about Jews and Judaism."

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Well not exactly anonymous. We have your IP, so we can see that you are from Silver Spring, Maryland, using Level 3 Communications.

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I agree with you on both counts. The article is generally very factual at the moment, not a hatchet job or a work of a hagiography.

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uh, is trolling like dogru's really necessary on WP? can't we leave this to ASchlafly and the competent people at conservapedia?--

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An administrator has been informed and the article will be reverted back to the version before you and your sockpuppet's edits. --

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rules. In a nutshell: make a limited, focussed change, wait for reaction, take it to the discussion page if controversy. Thanks.

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That is a reputable source. External links do not have to be neutral and can be POV. The story is a bit confusing, but so what?

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Only, bother, I can't remember the code to do this -- I tried and it didn't work. Can anyone help? Something like <! : -->

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article. I support removal of the label, but her atheism should continue to be mentioned in the text of the article itself.

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I didn't contribute to the Catholicism debate. My point is that there seems to be no difficulty in calling her an atheist.

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Why do you keep trying to add unreferenced claims and OR? Adding it again and again could also be considered vandalism.

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It doesn't clearly fail the criteria, so you can't just delist it. You have to give editors a chance to fix it first. -

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No, consistently adding unreferenced claims to a controverstial article even though you know that's against WP policy (

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It is very well established that the AEI is conservative, just as the Brookings Institution is liberal. Just look at

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I'm listening! I am also watching the increased activity and will be glad to engage as a moderator. My name is Eric.

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The reason this has been causing problems is that its meaning is ambiguous. Here is what I suggest it be changed to:

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Ah, I see - I'm sorry! Will look closer at the edit summary next time, my bad. Nice work on the article, by the way.

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origin" part in, provide reference and formulate in an unbiased way. Nobody will object to that (at least not me).

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Apologies everyone for sticking the link in there. I didn't read the article, nor did I figure out that it was our

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as false and fundamentally illiberal, though she especially opposes what she see as patriarchal aspects of Islam.

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is another sock puppet for this person, so any edit made by these three accounts is going to be heavily biased.--

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I will delist this article from GA status because it is not comperhensive missing a very important section. See

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As I explained on both your talk page and my talk page, the problem isn't with the criticism, it's with the

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conservative think-tanks are are offering her a position that says something about the liberal community.

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be well-sourced and not libellous. So go ahead and add criticism, according to Knowledge (XXG) policy.

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It's not up to us to go around labelling people. Just the facts, especially as this is a living person.

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Well AEI waved enough money and a good employment contract in front of her face, and SADLY she took it.

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I've just taken the article to peer review to see what specific objections or general comments emerge.

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Violence is inherent in Islam — it's a destructive, nihilistic cult of death. It legitimates murder"

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page protection a few days ago. I was told politely to "deal with it". :) So I can help do that...

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I'm not going to argue about this - different interpretations are possible. However, after reading

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I agree, but in that case it should not be presented as a simple English transcript of the video.

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Any reactions from third parties to the recent edits? Should we have this page protected somehow?

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I see the whole reference to UNHCR has been removed. For completeness sake the correct agency was

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It is not Fair. Hirsi criticizes Christianity and Judiasim, but we don't see that in the article.

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This is a cross-post from the talk page of the anon editor who states that AEI is 'conservative'.

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I have reverted all edits the last ten days (163 revisions). I urge you to make consensus here.

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I agree, it's a reincarnation of Leaveout (as indicated by content & IP adresses).

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for delisting if doing such would be controversial. I would oppose delisting myself. -

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Why? There is nothing about critical views with respect to her. Have you seen the

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I understood that she has defined herself as an atheist for some years now. THis

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Here is the complete quotation as described by the source given for the paragraph:

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IMO the link can be added, provided a good description of the document is given.

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her citizenship). I'll make this change in due course if no-one asserts this is

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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I removed the section "Criticism of Hirsi Ali" due to the following reasons:

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visible in 1,000s or perhaps 10s of 1000s of articles across the encyclopedia.

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Well, we never heard back from Xsp85, so I removed the tag and the paragraph.

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This is indeed quite confusing. My guess is that the sentence should say she

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I think this section should stay. I also agree with user Metamagician3000.--

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has been one of the people actually removing vandalism from this article.

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Quality problem with article, indirect prediction based on time from "now"

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I undid the removal as deletion without challenging is not Wiki norm.

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i removed the video links since they were entitled 'Ayaan is a LIAR'.--

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Great, I'm all for it. Please consider registering to ease discussion.

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The article stated her Kenyan education was: "under sponsorship of the

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refers to her as such. In this sense she is against all religions.

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http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vara/zembla/bb.20060804.asf

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Can you Anti-Islamic people stop deleting criticisms about this Ali.

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Of course everything what damaging the holy hirsi ali got censored.

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else entirely to the Dutch. (AEI, however, is still conservative.)

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she herself obtained permission to immigrate under false pretences

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I removed the sentence "She has received numerous awards for her

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Again, the quality of the edits is very poor. Just one example: "

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I second that. Also, please avoid accusing others of vandalism (

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A request for protection has been made to Administrators since

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but this category was deleted and will probably remain so. See

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at once and re-verting every time someone cleans up the mess!

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you are from a rich family you can pay for your own ticket."

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This is the issue, from the bibliography, as it now stands:

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if you cared to read, but will be provided with more links.

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Removed, as no one has attempted to justify its inclusion.

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So why is there an antisemitic, and holocaust denier cat?--

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much is certainly clear. She dsscribes this in detail in

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is making changes that is full of POV and bad grammar.

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How are we able to describe it in such detail? Source?

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Thanks, I noticed it. Not very worried about it :-).

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Are we allowed to talk about the political context?

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17204802/site/newsweek/

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