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is apparently pretty darn stochastic — and not everything enumerated in the TOC is mentioned in the lead, so further information is extra added value, not redundant. Counter-counterpoint: if we tried to address every oddity of mobile browsing, we might drown lead sections everywhere in overlinking. (Counter)point: this article is long and almost intrinsically unwieldy, on a topic where the content can be organized in multiple ways, none much better than the others, so it's too unusual to set a precedent. Discuss, I guess, if desired?
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Institute of Mathematical Physics in Riga. This address hosts a website for a Mathematical Centre of Riemannian Cosmology, devoted to the work of the Bogdanovs. In a posting on a French internet newsgroup, the brothers helpfully explain that the University of Riga set up the site for them, and that is why it has a Lithuanian domain name. One problem with this is that Riga is in Latvia, not Lithuania.
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Around this same time a message defending the Bogdanovs appeared from a 'Roland Schwartz', whose computer was using exactly the same Paris internet service provider as Professor Yang. Later that month the brothers started sending e-mails using an internet domain name purporting to be an International
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was banned). Any way one slices it, I can't see either course of action making the page more than a little better or a little worse. Point: the links are redundant, because the table of contents is right there. Counterpoint: not everyone can see the TOC — whether or not it appears in mobile browsing
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says very little about the content of the papers; our article, with its recounting of the "any plane contains a point" business and so forth, is much more detailed. But Woit's book is mostly about other things anyway.
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grounds. To my great surprise, I found a book which devoted a few pages to the Bogdanov affair and which tallied up their citations (up through 2007).
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out of our own references, and it turns out that the brothers just repeated the mistake of the person they were replying to, who also said "
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about old forum drama. However, it might not be more so than Woit's book, which mentions another pseudonym in addition to "Professor Yang".
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I've kept the section links in the lead. There does not appear to be a project-wide rule or even guideline about this, and what
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Verified a heap of old URLs in the references that hadn't been checked since 2006 or 2007
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a comparison of the Bogdanov papers' citation count to that of the
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This may be an unwarranted cheap shot on Woit's part: we can dig
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