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Law' requiring ten witnesses, let alone the superstition as to why so many witnesses would be required. Yet I see this 'folk tradition' crop up all over the place, mostly on wedding sites and "Did You Know?" type sites (mentalfloss and "Today I Learned" on reddit being two recent examples), but every time there is no evidence offered. I'm removing the original; if someone wants to reinstate, please make sure you have actual evidence in hand when you do.
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Glad to hear we didn't start it, though now I'm curious who did. I'd be surprised if the book you linked wasn't the original source for the claim here, since the phrasing (including the capitalization error) appears to be identical. It's clearly not a reliable source though -- I could point out any
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The 'Origins' section of this article appears to have all the hallmarks of a classic case of citogenesis. The original text dates from 2005, but with no citation offered at the time. A reference to Encyclopedia Britannica was added later, but was removed because it made no reference to any 'Roman
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Surely in British English (which I speak) the equivalent of Chief Bridesmaid is the Best Man? The Groom's chief attendant, usually best friend or brother. An "usher" is someone who shows people to their seats, the same meaning applies to an usher in a cinema or theatre. It's not a particularly
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I searched for an RS for this claim (as I'd never heard of it), and could only find puff-pieces for the two companies that invented it in 2015 to promote their hen/stag party businesses. If someone can find an RS that is actually R, I have no objection to it being reinstated.
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On second thought, perhaps the 'Origin and history' section could be more profitably replaced by a more general section on 'Women wedding attendants in world cultures', because the role being fulfilled in most cases is not really "bridesmaid" in the modern Western
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number of fallacious 'facts' in the book, unrelated to this case, and there's no way to verify which of the books' claims are true or false without a secondary source, who it'd be better to cite in the first place.
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I'd checked that because it seemed surprising. Roman marriage customs changed a lot over time and I'd expect at least information about the period during which any custom was active to be mentioned.
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BTW far as I know, Best Man comes from "second-best man", who would be expected to marry the bride himself if the groom was incapacitated. Not sure how often that actually happens.
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Cited source (Britannica entry) did not mention customs of dress for the bridal party. Citation removed and left a mark to indicate that this has no currently referenced source.
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honourable role. Perhaps that's just for upper-class weddings. The few normal-person weddings I've been to have had Best Man, not an usher, as chief male guest.
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Invented "folk customs" seem to be a cottage industry. Anyone who thinks this is real history might improve it with an old quote and return it to the entry. --
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and therefore predating this Knowledge article, is making the same claims as the text you removed, so the first appearance of these claims isn't Knowledge. --
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The specific factoid combining ten Roman witnesses and bride-doubles appears to have been born in the 1929
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wrote on this, and similar customs in several cultures, at more length in the 1902
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section may be worth mining, if some of it can be confirmed by modern sources.--
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How the World Weds: The Story of Marriage, Adultery & Divorce
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Citation required - custom of bridal party dressing alike
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23:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
E.g. this book, which is from 2001
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00:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
PublicolaMinor
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08:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
How the World Weds: The Story of Marriage, Adultery & Divorce
Claudia de Lys
Confarreatio
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Mock Brides
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06:58, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Pharos
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