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saying explicitly racist things is clearly an important aspect of that individual. and you're misunderstanding the 'controversy' title; first of all, it should be labeled "Racist Views" rather than "Controversy". It is only controversial in that most people aren't openly, explicitly racist. The question of whether or not it was explicitly racist is not a controversial suggestion... it was... hence "explicit" haha As a
Democrat, I'm sad to see that you, someone likely also a Democrat (I'd bet $ 50,000 that if you're American and you vote, that you voted Democrat in all the presidential elections you've voted in), are trying to rewrite history. I always though wikipedia was reliable growing up, but there is clearly a much more active army of rabidly biased liberals within the moderator base than those who are able to leave politics out of it. This author holds racist views. There is no question. She said it herself. A "Professor Of Gender And Race Studies" being racist is obviously noteworthy. haha
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At 14:53, Brittney Cooper says, "No, that's what white humans did. White human beings thought there's a world here and we own it. Prior to them, black and brown people have been sailing across oceans, interacting with each other for centuries, without total subjugation, domination, and colonialism."
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Hey, IP! It actually is sourcing to YouTube, as we use reliable sources to show that a particular incident didn't simply happen but is worth commenting on. If we can't find anything other than the video, it means no one is commenting on it, which means no one thinks it's worth commenting on, which
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Instead of a pointless edit war, I thought it'd be better to talk it out like adults. We cannot pretend the current controversy isn't happening, but the current partisan edits can't stand either. I'm of the opinion that Ms. Cooper's highly damaging interview with the Root, during which she make a
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taking the position that none of these could conceivably qualify as RS, I think taken as a whole it makes clear that much of our instant article fails the notability test and is ultimately promotional in nature. I am assuming Cooper's bios on magazines, etc. are self-authored, as they're almost
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lol sorry I'm not an expert at wikipedia communication. It seems those who are best at it are those who have a problem with accurate historical record. The bias levels here are off the charts. A person claiming to be an advocate for civil rights and a professor of gender and race studies but
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I'm not saying that her statement should be included. I'm not saying that her statement should be not be included. What I am saying is that we have a reliable source which proves that she did say it, and multiple wikipedia articles prove that her statement is false.
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large number of highly racist and inflammatory remarks is of public interest, and the most noteworthy aspect of her career thus far. If this page is to exist, this controversy must be documented also.
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