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Hits Vol. 2", which both feature largely older pre-"Dizzy up the Girl" recorded material. Without knowing for certain, it would appear they changed to using "The Goo Goo Dolls" on their album covers since the beginning of their mainstream success. However, without a verifiable source, it is probably better to leave this article at "Goo Goo Dolls".

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In 90's they played post-grunge, of course their music was more polished than Bush's or Silverchair's, who played in best grunge traditions, but more radio-friendly. Post-Grunge bands first of all are STP, Bush, Live, Candlebox, Foo Fighters, Silverchair, Collective Soul and so on. Live is definitely

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Actually, if you noticed on their covers Newbliss (starting from "Dizzy up the Girl" in 1998 onward), they all list them as "The Goo Goo Dolls" (stylized, of course) on it. The only exceptions since then have been on the covers of the compilation albums "Ego, Opinion, Art and Commerce" and "Greatest

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The name change thing should go in the article. If there are conflicting stories, the article shouldn't just show one; we need some sources, and show the information, not try to piece together the most likely truth ourselves. I remember hearing the Sex Maggots thing on MTV or VH1, so if it's true or

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Someone (70.49.139.165) insists that "Just the Way You Are" and "Fallin' Down" should not be included in the discography because they were not "radio singles" despite their physical existence as promotional singles. I question this assertion--where were these singles sent if not to radio?--but more

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It's true, there are 2 Goo Goo Dolls days in Buffalo. I believe the first one was chosen after they came home after ABNG (and Name) became a big hit and they were welcomed back home again at a concert in Buffalo. I think it was explained on the GGD's episode of VH1's Behind the Music, so check that

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Hold on, didn't we just agree their name is merely "Goo Goo Dolls", "the" only present for the sake of proper grammar? Because the article's name is back to "The Goo Goo Dolls". Also for further evidence that their name is indeed simply "Goo Goo Dolls" notice that none of their videos include "the"

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The article states the band was "formed on Memorial Day 1986". It looks odd (to me), as a) other group's pages aren't so specific about what day they were formed on and b) Memorial Day is only a holiday in the US, and even the link to the Memorial Day page on Knowledge (XXG) doesn't tell me what

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The offical name of the band is actually "Goo Goo Dolls." 'The' is just added to make it sound more gramatically correct. Their website is www.googoodolls.com, their artist name is listed on iTunes Music Store as Goo Goo Dolls, and not only that, but VH1 lists them as "Goo Goo Dolls." Also, if you

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What's the point of posting a link to top 10 worst Post-Grunge Bands? Sounds like you're trying to bash them to me. Allmusic is not always reliable when it comes to genres. Also Post-Grunge isn't really a genre 'cause how can someone rip off a band that made a living ripping off the pixies,Sonic

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There's a line in the current version about the song "Iris" whose meaning isn't clear; I can rewrite it to clarify if someone can tell me which way. "He wrote this song while breaking several's years of writer's block and sobriety." Does that mean that he broke several years worth of sobriety,

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The rationale for not speedy deleting this article is that it is a very notable band, deleting the article as a whole would harm Knowledge (XXG). The wording is largely the same as it was a year ago. Other sites with similar wordings could well have copied from Knowledge (XXG), none that I found

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Notice how their logo never capitalizes the "t" in "the", it's because the name is just "Goo Goo Dolls". "the" merely appears to make the name more natural in certain sentences. But even then, you still see it absent a lot. Like no one goes to a "the Goo Goo Dolls" concert, you go to a "Goo Goo

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In older interviews from ~1988 the bands often mentions they had their first gig on Memorial Day 1986 so that's why I added it to this page. I guess you're right it's not in line with other bands pages so I'll fix the date back to 1986 (someone changed that) and remove the Memorial Day part.

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singles are to be excluded, the section should be renamed "Airplay chart" or something. At the very least, these additional singles should be mentioned in a footnote to the chart. Or they should be listed in the discography with a footnote stating that they were not intended for airplay.

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I have been asked to state why I keep reverting the user who keeps insisting that ""NBC holiday album" should be listed instead of simply "single". The reason for this is that there is no reason to believe that this song was written for this NBC album. Also because it was released as a

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I have selected this article to work on for a technical editing class that I am currently in right now. My plan is to read through the article and focus on adding sources/making sure all of the information is correct since this article is about people who are still alive. I welcome any

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I'm not certain about the Stay With You chart numbers; if someone could update them and reference where they obtained the information it would be greatly appreciated for verification purposes. I went by the Billboard and AMG numbers online, but I think they may have not updated them.

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Does anyone have more information about the UK singles chart numbers for the Goo Goo Dolls? There is very litte information present in the article, and it hasn't been updated in ages. If someone could post revised numbers and cite the information source, it would be appreciated.

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Actually, I think the actual name of the band is now "The Goo Goo Dolls". They seemed to have switched over to this name during 1998 - Look at the album covers since then, they all have "The Goo Goo Dolls". Of course, everybody still calls them "Goo Goo Dolls" out of habit.

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i think it youwld be funny to say that they were called the good good dolls because there a good band. i dont think there a very good band but it would be a preetty good joke. i know theres not suppose to be jokes on wikipedia though so im not putting it in the article.

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Goos arent Post-Grunge and Grunge especially, and never was before! their style always been (1993-present) a pop-rock music with classic sound and guitar riffs, as Alice Cooper, Bon Jovi, etc. but now their music just a little has become a modern rock, you know...

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I added in the single Home's realease date seeing as it had yet to be added here but was already included in "Something For The Rest of Us"'s article, and on top of that, already accorded it's own article. We need to keep these articles in sync! lol :P

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String of Lies was released in Superstar Car Wash, which was released before A Boy Named Goo. If Takac ever screamed "Where's our fucking money?", it would have been in a live concert ad-lib I also can't find any sources that back this anecdote up.

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Hey, guys, they were definitely called the Sex Maggots. I've seen that info in every one of the band's biographies I've ever seen, and there's a chat interview with them here that states so. Scroll down a bit and you'll see them answer the question:

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Hello all. I included the name "Sex Maggots" a few months back (or could be years) and I'm shocked to learn about interviews denying this name. However, since they are conflicting stories about the name I suggest it be mentioned in an article.

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Not really, but the point is that it's over, and nobody objected. Nightstallion didn't move it until a week after I voted, and nobody else had, so it was safe to move. We had an anon that thought it was still open so I made it more official.

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I think you should both agree to disagree, since it would appear the band has told conflicting stories about the origin of the name. However, the more widespread tale is that they were called the Sex Maggots, so just please stick with that.

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Just so you know, on the iTunes Originials, Johnny explicitly states that he was asked to write a song fo the NBC album and that is when he wrote "Better Days". So there is reason to believe it was written for the album, Johnny said so.

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I've added a contribution to the First Release discussion page, anyone interested in rewriting that article? English is not my native language, I have provided the necessary updates but someone else will have to update the article. -

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Okay. Well, the verifiability is more uncertain then. I'm not that familiar with them, I was trying to make some of the grammar more clear and wondered why that excerpt was taken out; if it's inaccurate, that's up to you all.

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as an obvious parent genre, too. If anybody wants other genres, they'll need to come up with references for them, as is the Knowledge (XXG) way. Opinions about grunge, post-grunge, or country-jazz-Thai fusion don't matter.

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It is true that they did get their name from an ad in True Detective. But the claim that they were the "Sex Maggots" is completely false, as confirmed by John Rzeznik. I think Mr. Rzeznik knows his band better than you.

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InsideCx: The band has been around for quite a while. You started out in Buffalo during the mid-Eighties. Yes, we started out as the Sex Maggots, then became the Goo Goo Dolls, well, and we’re still the Goo Goo Dolls!

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Would it be reasonable to ask that someone with more knowledge about US holidays either changes it to read an actual date, or remove reference to a date/holiday in 1986 so that it matches other group's pages please?

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I would argue that Knowledge (XXG) is about providing factual information. So including an urban myth or disputed fact would seem counterproductive to that end. It would be continuing the propagation of these

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with John Rzeznik. When they bring up a trivia question about the "Sex Maggots", he says it's an urban myth (Around the 6.5 minute mark of the interview). The Goo Goo Dolls do have a song called "Sex Maggot".

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This article reads like a 7th grade book report. Someone with a sense of the English language needs to rework every section. I've started making changes, but it's maddening. Welcome to Knowledge (XXG).

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No evidence has been presented that their name is "The Goo Goo Dolls." The word "the" is used only to grammatically refer to the band, as in "the ]", not "]" (as Timjurka explained above. —

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Post-Grunge is Creed, Fuel, Staind, Seether, Default, Shinedown, Submersed, Breaking Benjamin and more like this... Post-Grunge is not Goo Goo Dolls, Lifehouse, Live, REM, Powderfinger...

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And check the definition here for Post-Grunge, they are one of the top artist on that genre, even on the albums and some songs with post-grunge feels are showed on that article. Check it!

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Instead, Macintyre has been the band's full-time drummer since about 2013 or 2014. He is classified as a "hired gun" musician, a touring musician and paid employee of the band. See

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I'm curious, where did they get the name "Goo Goo Dolls" anyway? My dad asked me, and I had no clue. I think its origins would be a worthy addition to the article to boot.--

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It is an urban myth that the Goo Goo Dolls ever had the name the "Sex Maggots". This has been confirmed by John Rzeznik himself on multiple occassions during interviews.

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https://web.archive.org/20080715043514/http://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com:80/news/11152/The_Goo_Goo_Dolls_To_Play_At_IMS_During_Allstate_400_At_The_Brickyard

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https://web.archive.org/20071012194335/http://www.rollingstone.com:80/artists/googoodolls/articles/story/5927020/goo_goo_dolls_want_label_to_forget_their_name

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Just went through this article and made bold edits, including removing unsourced text, removing unreliably sourced text, & removing unnecessary detail.

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Why would Buffalo proclaim two days to be Goo Goo Dolls day? And why pick independence day as one of them? This seems unlikely. Not cited anyway... --

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I disagree. To me, a spoken interview has more weight than text. For any number of reasons, text is more likely to be inaccurate. As such, if that

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Fixed all the chart numbers, since they were mostly incorrect. I appreciate people's enthusiasm for the band, but don't be making up chart numbers.

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look at their biography, everywhere it says "the Goo Goo Dolls," implying that 'the' is not part of their name. You should consider changing this. --

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https://web.archive.org/20071002062226/http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/googoodolls/articles/story/5929327/goo_goo_dolls_lawsuit_coming_to_a_head

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meaning he fell off the wagon, or does it mean that he achieved sobriety at the same point as breaking the several years of writer's block?

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Just a point, but in the lede it is claimed the had a hit single with "Dizzy Up the Girl" which was an album. The single was "Dizzy"

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https://web.archive.org/20070706001112/http://www.ultimate-guitar.com:80/news/video_news/goo_goo_dolls_transforming_experience.html

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The release date of "Let Love In" was adjusted to reflect new information from the band's official web site, www.googoodolls.com.

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https://web.archive.org/20100715214658/http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/entertainment/music/Goo_Goo_Dolls_John_Rzeznik_on_GDLA_20090918

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looked like the definitive source of the information. If there is doubt about whether this is a copyvio, re-write the article.

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I fixed the addition that said stay w/ u was number 7 on the billboard 100 b/c it was 7 on adult top 40 not billboard 100.

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All the GGD's albums reviewed in Ultimate-Guitar have all the Post-Grunge genre (check one by one if you have some doubts)

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I belive the goo goo dolls are grunge because of they're lyrics and raspy vocals and musical style and they look grunge.

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http://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/news/11152/The_Goo_Goo_Dolls_To_Play_At_IMS_During_Allstate_400_At_The_Brickyard

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What kinda source want you to confirm that Goo Goo Dolls are some kind of post-grunge ? I'm going to give some source:

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I keep removing Craig Macintyre as an official member because the band has not announced him becoming a full member.

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http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/googoodolls/articles/story/5927020/goo_goo_dolls_want_label_to_forget_their_name

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Right now the page says they won a grammy in 1998, but the linked wikipedia page says they never won that grammy.

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I am beginning to cleanup the article, adding references as appropriate, and deleting any incorrect information.

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when they list the name of the artist. Every video refers to them as "Goo goo Dolls" not "The Goo Goo Dolls".

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http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/googoodolls/articles/story/5929327/goo_goo_dolls_lawsuit_coming_to_a_head

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is accurate (I'm not able to listen to it, so I can't verify it) then I think it should be given more weight.

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Pearl Jam? Are you crazy? They're just plain grunge. Try Silverchair, Days of the New, Seven Mary Three.

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Youth, Husker Du, and R.E.M? to me Nirvana should just be called Post-Alt if you wanna be like that.--

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