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game shows began long before Cronin left the network, and the article shouldn't editorialize on which developments are "positive." The added details on the latest promotional campaigns are insignificant, in my view, but I'll let others decide if they should remain. IMO, the only slightly notable item on the promos is the "you can't write this stuff" tagline during the writers strike.

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overscan. However, I've never noticed GSN cut the credits out. They're practically doing that already and not getting in trouble with any unions, so I don't see why it would make any sense to go through whatever lawsuits the production unions would throw at them just so the commercials can be 3% bigger. But I have seen stupider things, so I can't guarantee it.

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not have closed-captioning. It appears that the FCC has a "rule" that citizens must first contact - in writing - an out-of-compliance broadcaster. That may mean that we have to do the legwork for the FCC. I could not find any address or contact information on the GSN and the GSN Corporate websites. (

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I think that most programming information should be removed from the history section and either moved to the programming section or be removed completely, because it just does not make sense to have all of these lists of games shows when there is already a section for programming, let alone an entire

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The "Recent changes" section is getting awful long. The major trend at the network – the return to an almost all-traditional game show lineup, plus some poker and blackjack shows and a few documentaries – is getting lost in a sea of this-show-came-on-and-that-show-went-off detail. I'd like to boil it

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Once again, important and well-sourced material on GSN's programming has been gutted from the article with no discussion on the talk page. My guess is that the same user is doing the gutting as before, though I can't prove it. The repeated allegation of "fan POV" in the edit summary is nonsense. The

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For some reason an IP editor axed the entire paragraph on 2006 changes. I restored it. Maybe the paragraph could be trimmed, but it makes no sense to drop it completely. I also rewrote some of the added material on 2007 changes for accuracy, NPOV and brevity. The switch back to traditional and older

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Pretty much all networks squish the credits under commercials, but GSN is certainly one of the worst offenders. You'd practically have to have HDTV to read them in that tiny box. The next worse is SciFi, where they put them in about a 1-inch-wide strip on the left, and most of it gets cut off in the

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Whoever is the person who dresses Leah Remini should get a new job. Most of the outfits look like ugly curtain prints, but once in a while a nice outfit is displayed. Also what is up with outfits that have long sleeves and cover her up over her neck. Please look into nicer outfits for her. Thanks

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I can not find the contact information (mailing address, phone number, e-mail, etc.) for the Game Show Network page. I suggest that all Knowledge (XXG) pages concerning existing corporations include the contact information. Case in point: I am trying to contact GSN because many of their shows do

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Maybe one of the first two could go, but the third is slightly different with a variant ball pattern and the omission of "network." But I don't care much one way or the other. I did provide fair use rationales for the images because of my general inclusionist principles. If you eliminate one of the

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Also, every other U.S. network (cable or broadcast) airs the entire credits of shows that have credits, and do not cut them off in any way. This has always been the case. Every television network wants to make the most money possible, and the time used for credits could be used for advertising. But

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I have no idea what you mean by "select few shows and throwing shade on the network's 'non-traditional' programming." The material you have repeatedly gutted from the article referred to important developments in the network's programming. I'm not going to edit war on this but if a cable network's

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The entry has again been gutted of carefully sourced content. The accusation in the edit description of "unreliable sources" is ridiculous. All the content I added was carefully sourced and completely accurate. The accusation of bias and "fan POV" - whatever that might mean - is also silly. It's

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name for a subject, as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources, is often used as a title because it is recognizable and natural. Editors should also consider the criteria outlined ." In the case of this network, the "Game Show Network" name is used in a lesser number of

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Already clarified my comment in the textual note. Of course, GSN is watched by some kids and teens. But GSN's game shows are intended primarily for adults, unlike the shows on Nick GAS. In fact, GSN's audience skews substantially older than the usual audience for U.S. networks.

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You mean, unimportant changes that only focus on a select few shows and throwing shade on the network's "non-traditional" programming. This is not a blog and the average reader doesn't about these things nor did they ask for your opinion on the network's

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I remember reading a GSN post once where they talked about a CBS-affiliate cutting to a noonhour newscast everyday before the end of the credits of The Price Is Right. A poster said that the affiliate cannot do that. Something about production unions.

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The alleged controversies in the section are only shared by a small faction of the posters on GSN's message boards and don't represent a true sample of the population, nor do they represent GSN's audience as a whole. Suggest removing this section.

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The entry was recently gutted of much of its substance and (frankly) interest. I've begun to add back much of GSN's history and related information, all carefully sourced. I will continue to expand the entry with other relevant and sourced

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it isn't, and why is that? It seems like there is some obligation somewhere. Every other network would want to get rid of credits since they waste time, but they aren't, and there is some reason for that... What makes GSN different?--

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programming is not important, then what is important? In my opinion the article is still too brief in its discussion of GSN history, but at least some material still remains on important developments in the network's programming.--

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I'm not trying to say that the whole article should be removed, but it needs to be more focused on the channel and not be so overwhelmed with programming information. Does anyone have anything to say about this? Agree/Disagree?

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article with a list of programming. Since there is already a programming list for this television channel article, I think the amount of programming information on the main article should be severely trimmed or removed.

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gutted material accurately reported on important changes in the network over the years. I'm restoring the content. Please discuss major changes in the article on the talk page, so other users can comment on them.--

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I think that this article relies too heavily on programming information, and there is not much information on anything else but a very detailed list of acquisitions over the 14 years it has been on the air.

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based on the actual content of the sections. But for some obscure reason somebody keeps messing around with the date titles, so they don't match the content. Don't ask me why but I'm tired of the silly

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GSN doesn't air Password anymore. It hasn't in two years. The contract to air it went up a long time ago. GSN doesn't air Ray Combs Family Feud either. It hasn't for a while. Why was my edit reverted?

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Since GSN doesn't refer to itself as "Game Show Network" anymore, and there is no other article on Knowledge (XXG) with the initials "GSN", wouldn't it now be appropriate to move this page to

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There was a lot of original research on this page. I've removed them and other edits with no citations. Since TV Tropes isn't a credible source (), I've removed that edit as well.

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down, but I don't want to lose valuable detail about the network's history. Still, we shouldn't let the section grow much longer before we simplify and rewrite it.

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Wrong. As usual. But Casey never will admit to being wrong. Casey, when you're ready to back up your claim with some actual evidence, I'd like to see it.

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This is getting ridiculous, but once again the user who wants to own the article has gutted relevant and carefully sourced material. I've restored it. --

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are having some effect. Anyway, it's not hard to find a great deal of evidence for GSN's older skew. For a typical treatment of the issue, see this

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that commented: "Cable networks Fox News, Hallmark, CNN and GSN had the oldest viewership, each with a median age of more than 60 in prime time."

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Casey Abell says that this network is about adult games. However, I watched this network when I was 14-15 years old. Please clarify further.

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written when Rich Cronin took over the network. Despite Cronin's efforts the network has continued to skew old, as mentioned in this recent

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Nothing controversial about it, really. Natural disambiguation is always preferred to parenthetical disambiguation. Please read the linked

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usage by the channel. Taking all of that into consideration, it can be implied that that "GSN" is officially the common name nowadays. -

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Does anybody have a good graphical image of the original "Winnie" logo? I took a photo of my logo magnet, but it really looks like crap.

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I also rearranged some existing material for better chronological order. The section now flows logically from 2005 to 2006 to 2007.

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I think it's ok to leave GSN in the episode status box, to let even know that GSN may be getting the rights to these shows.

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Let's not forget that GSN does "box out" their credits for advertising. I HATE that. I just HATE IT! Why do they do it?

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clear that a certain editor wants to own the article. I'm going to revert his edit and let others decide the issue.--

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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Should it be added, if so how and where, that Mediacom Cable Company has removed GSN from all of it's systems.

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I don't agree with that at all. Game Show Network is its name. That's what the article needs to be called. -

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disambiguation is always preferable to parenthetical disambiguation, and the present title provides that.

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GSN's slogan is not "The World Needs More Winners" anymore!!!! So what is GSN's new slogan right now????

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I noticed on Friday night/Saturday morning while browsing the networks on DirecTV, that GSN had took over

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for reasons stated above, and I'll also add that unlike TLC, A&E or KFC, Game Show Network has not

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Also, it seems that the "network for games" logo should be relocated to one of the following sections.

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I concur. There is no reason for the site to be loaded down with programming changes, etc.

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Wholly unnecessary. The only thing different is the background of that particular spot.

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What did the first Game Show Originals look like with that first logo, or did they?

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changed its name to the acronym. The official name is still Game Show Network. —

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be a controversial topic due to the multiple move requests that keep coming up.

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This URL has it, it's just in black and white unfortunately. It is a PDF file.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20100309104932/http://corp.gsn.com/corporate-info

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Okay, I give up on the date titles in the history. They obviously should be

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as consensus to keep the article at it's current name has been established.

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None of these sources refer to the channel as "Game Show Network" even once.

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That is still their slogan! They haven't changed it or stopped using it! -

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two very similar logos, the image will eventually get deleted as an orphan.

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the first. I might be up for the second, in theory at least.

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I think legal names are represented for articles, like

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I propose that the name of this article be changed to

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