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I have discussed this issue with other experienced editors. General consensus is: the changes are unnecessary and considered cruft. It instead overcomplicated the infobox and stuffed too much information. There is also no need to indicate whether this station is a bomb shelter or not. Another
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I am sorry to have offended you. I am appreciative of your thoughts and edits to improve the articles but the proposed changes are not really suitable. I hope you will continue to come up with other ideas for improvements in other aspects and let's have a discussion on improvement on
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