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157:. Those opposing have not offered good evidence to the contrary and the simple fact that the Book of Genesis is the genesis of subsequent uses of "genesis" (couldn't resist) is not a good basis for what should occupy the title. Rather, we are concerned with the most people who navigate to Knowledge's page named genesis ultimately reaching the target article they meant to arrive at among the many ambiguous topics that "genesis" could refer to, with the least hassle and confusion.-- 22: 71: 53: 454:. While the Bible book may be the source of the word and the primary topic, it has grown to mean so much more. Moreover, why have "Genesis" just as a redirect when it can be used as a disambig page? When consensus is reached, let's make it move-protected to avoid constant flip-flopping. -- 342:
Sure, but that doesn't explain why the nominator stated twice on 10 Sep 2009 that it redirected to the DAB page. I'm just trying to figure out what the nominator means, or if they mean what I think they mean and have just made a mistake. That's why I asked the question in the first place.
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I agree in part. Can we at least put the Book of Genesis first on the disambiguation page? Feels almost absurdly uncultured to place DC and Marvel Comics versions of "Genesis" above, you know, the first part of the most influential book in the world (for better or worse)?
513:, in my opinion. I understand that the band name and just about everything on the disambiguation page derives from the usage in the Bible, but that by itself doesn't make something primary topic – being searched often by our readers does. 256:"Genesis" currently redirects to Genesis (disambiguation). Considering that the term "Genesis" is often used in reference to things other than the bible, it makes sense that a search for "genesis" should redirect to this page. 172:
Post close note: I have also performed a history swap—the non-trivial edit history of the page at genesis (which was redirected to Book of Genesis and previously to other targets) is now the history of Genesis
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I think it's not unreasonable to venture that the Bible book is the primary topic, considering it came first chronologically and most of the other entries are named after it. --
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The target has not moved since June 2009 so I don't understand why we're even debating where it redirects to. It's not like it has moved in the midst of this nomination.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
293:— completely ignoring where the redirect points (since the target is not stable), I think it makes more sense for 178: 162: 239: 189: 83: 587: 440: 21: 472: 261: 201: 154: 39: 606: 579: 488: 418: 223: 174: 158: 643: 550: 368: 344: 333: 316: 306: 280: 247: 614: 388:
on Google (but don't give too much weight to these stats: this was only a very crude search). --
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Why isn't the sentence "Sega Genesis" in the software section? Is it because SEGA sucks?
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is the primary meaning. I could be convinced otherwise with some hard data.
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Pop culture always seems to trump history: there are 1.18 million hits for
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Searching for "genesis bible" (without quotes) give 9.8 million hits. --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.
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redirects has been changed over and over again, for years. --
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is rather long and complicated. At the moment, the page has
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What happened to Moses what happened to Moses in Genesis
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on the basis that there does not appear to be a clear
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The following is a closed discussion of the proposal.
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Genesis, which is followed by Exodus etc. Or i.o.w.
86:pages on Knowledge. If you wish to help, you can 505:, for example, gets twice as many page views as 76:This disambiguation page is within the scope of 8: 82:, an attempt to structure and organize all 19: 47: 92:attached to this talk page, or visit the 32:does not require a rating on Knowledge's 543:only 5 incoming links from article space 49: 665:2601:281:D882:2280:F12A:5A93:B510:2BD4 242:? Because it doesn't. It redirects to 7: 479:or Genesis should redirect to it. -- 297:to be a dab page than a redirect to 106:Knowledge:WikiProject Disambiguation 234:. Is the nominator suggesting that 109:Template:WikiProject Disambiguation 38:It is of interest to the following 14: 687:WikiProject Disambiguation pages 69: 51: 20: 149:The result of the proposal was 630:Genesis (only) should point to 623:00:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC) 598:Sega sucks. 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My intuitive sense is that 648:14:22, 3 February 2017 (UTC) 475:then it should either be at 592:02:10, 2 October 2009 (UTC) 703: 673:22:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC) 384:and only 103 thousand for 79:WikiProject Disambiguation 576:the school ccs is great 64: 46: 563:Please do not modify it. 386:genesis AND "bible book" 271:No, it doesn't. Look at 240:Genesis (disambiguation) 190:Genesis (disambiguation) 141:Please do not modify it. 382:genesis AND "rock band" 238:currently redirects to 112:Disambiguation articles 173:(disambiguation).-- 30:disambiguation page 654:--@quadrismegistus 275:. 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Genesis
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