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669:- update the reference list on the Knowledge (XXG) page a little - mention the forum situation and the Facebook page on the Wiki. (Some people, myself among them, simply won't consider Facebook as the venue for a serious forum, and wouldn't use Facebook in any event unless explicitly directed there.) - mention the problem with Java-8 on the Wiki. (People who download Gephi nowadays will be running Java-8 and may well conclude that Gephi went the way of many abandoned OSS projects when it fails to run (without any error message !) after installing.) - have somebody fix the website to allow people to register. (if there's one red flag signalling an abandoned project it's that their website is no longer maintained). - 454:- I downloaded Gephi from its website, installed it under Windows 7, didn't work (the installation went Ok, but Gephi didn't come up after starting it). Some Googling later I found that others had this problem too (their posts were dated 2014) and that they had a workaround: installing Java 7, and feeding Gephi the path to the JRE version 7. That worked for me too, but it's now my 2015 and it still doesn't work with Java 8. How active is this project? - I saw on its forum that other people had reported the same problem (in 2015). I tried to register on the forum an join the discussion, but on trying to register I got an automated response that my IP addres was blacklisted. Fortunately a link was included to the site that maintains the blacklist ( 176: 653:- citations from a year ago aren't evidence of current activity, and all but one of the references mentioned on Knowledge (XXG) are from 2011, the exception being a French-language article (not the best possible reference on an international forum) from 2014. However I'm happy to accept that there is strong and continued interest in Gephi and that it's being used intensively. - the last version of the Gephi toolkit Gephi 0.8.2beta (Jan 03 2013)) on 84: 53: 152: 22: 473:--For those who are using the old 'tor.ahbl.org' list - you've been using a DNSbl list which has been shut down for around FOUR YEARS. You should be checking to verify that the lists you use are still working or not. I removed the test entry of '2.0.0.127.tor.ahbl.org' years ago, which your monitoring systems should have noticed and warned you about. 256:
It's prevalence in research and journalism as well as its GSoC selection the last three years running seem to be substantive differences from the other articles currently on the speedy deletion list as well as the last iteration of this article, which I wasn't around to discuss or I would have made a
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I know this was up in an earlier version and deleted, but I do think Gephi is notable enough for its own Knowledge (XXG) page. I've run into the same problem with its beta designation as was discussed in the previous CfD, and so I thought I'd start this page and see what kind of hammer comes down on
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mention the software being used. That's one of the reasons why I put a link to papers using Gephi and pointed out the references by hand. I'm not trying to gum up the works, but I think there's more than enough of a difference in this article as well as the adoption of the software package since
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and it took place in March 2010 and referred to a lack of references. If you'll take a look at the various references I've posted, you'll notice in the 20 months since then that Gephi has seen significantly more adoption among data visualization practitioners. It's also the technology behind
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Hi, I'm the author of the previous version, rejected 20 months ago, so I'm following the discussions here with interest. I'm very surprised that despite more than 60 citations in research papers, journals and books, one can still consider a lack of trusted sources. To verify, go to
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Where are the references that talk about it in a substantive manner? Of the 6 refs in the article only two actually mention it and one of those is its own website. The existence of other articles that do not meet the notability criteria is no reason to create another - see
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has 2014 as the date of the most recent post and no solution to the problem except to downgrade to Java-7. Sorry, but that's one of the hallmarks of a dead project. - I note that the website URL given on the Wiki page points to the right (live) website
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The article isn't perfect (it needs a lead and a few more words) but two references are enough to prevent a speedy deletion in my opinion. Notability is not a speedy deletion criteria, and the article is sufficiently different so it doesn't meet CSD G4.
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dates from 2013; there seem to have been no updates after that. So it looks as if development has stopped in January 2013. - the forum page I found when looking for a solution to the Java-8 problem (and where I found you as a user) under
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or, I suppose more importantly, what would make it "notable enough" besides being used in Research 1 institutions and journalism? For one thing, I don't know why you would expect the articles to reference the software--hardly any article that uses
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6 references should be enough too keep this article, but the main reason cited in the previous AfD doesn't make any sense to me. Gephi is very influential in visualizing networks and used by researchers worldwide.
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This page should not be speedily deleted because there are significant differences in the maturity and adoption of the Gephi platform since the first iteration of this article was added to Knowledge (XXG) in March
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I should say 5 - I actually took the time and looked and 4 of the references mention gephi, one of the articles that doesn't mention it explicitly the author created the visualizations (so he would know!).
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This page should not be speedily deleted because this software is in use by a large number of researchers and is in active development. It is definitely not ”fan cruft”. --
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Considering the Notability issue, Gephi won the Oracle award "Duke's Choice" in 2010 for extreme innovation in technical data visualization:
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https://scholar.google.fr/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=fEDLILQAAAAJ&citation_for_view=fEDLILQAAAAJ:u5HHmVD_uO8C
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Without adding anything substantive to the article why would it not be speedy deleted? Most of the references do not even mention it.
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Oh, and full disclosure, I use Gephi a lot, and I wrote a plugin for it and I'm one of the authors on one of the cited articles.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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case for it's inclusion, which is what I'm doing now. Can you tell me what would differentiate this from
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Discovering this discussion page today, may I add some comments on the issues discussed:
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http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/java/dukeschoicewinners-171159.html
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Good to hear from someone involved in Gephi, so it's not dead then.
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the last version of this article to warrant its not being deleted.
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Taken together I'm asking myself if this project is still alive.
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This could be reflected in the Knowledge (XXG) entry for Gephi?
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This blog post from Feb. 25, 2015 gives the update on Gephi:
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LinkedIn's inMaps, which I'd forgotten to add to the article.
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Hope that help to put a potential deletion in context...
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