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Gilgamesh apparently has both Gungnir (Odin's lance) and Brionac (Lugh's) - or the original of them. That one heavily looks like Gae Bolg, yes. CĂş Chulainn's Gae Bolg is supposed to be a different spear than Brionac AFAIK. Gil uses two seemingly different
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UGH, this sound nasty. I'll omit it for now until we get more data as to figuring out what is what. I should note, though, that it's unconfirmed as to whether or not Gil has
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Actually, I'm going to increase the size of Lancer, Berserker, and Caster; Rider, Arturia, and Archer really can't be touched because TYPE-MOON fiddled with their biographies, but we can assume the legends are intact for all the others. I would favour more detail over not enough any day, except in
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Well, that's not really what I meant. I was implying that Enkidu be removed entirely, as it isn't exactly relevant and only clogs up the neatness of the articles more if mentioned in another category (which is why I am trying to push against adding multiple subsections). If putting it under a
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I know I was the one who put up Enkidu as a Noble
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Hey hommies, here's my question! In the anime, Gilgamesh is seen using a knife with apparently ice/wind magical powers and a scythe whose blade teleports to its target. I figure those two are obviously Noble Phantasms and not mere weapons simply because of this.
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Actually, it's probably wrong that Gae Bolg was seen in Gate of Babylon; it was probably either Gungir or Brionac, most likely Gungir. That spear is the source of Gae Bolg and would be its prototype as well; it's weaker than Gae Bolg too.
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I know they are not portrayed in the games, however, would it be possible for people to help dig out whether or not those two weapons have any actual backing in either the Epic of Gilgamesh or in other Babylon-era myths?
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Wait, Gáe Bolg? I knew the proto-form was in the vault (Whatever it's name was), but how can Gil have the same version of an NP as another hero? And, more importantly, when has he ever been seen with it?
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trait. Actually, that doesn't matter, the important part is that Lancer's magic pointy-stick-of-auto-aiming-and-explodie isn't in the Vault. Which once again leaves us with two weapons with no picture.
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since Holy Grail is needed for a servant to stay in the real world. In consequence, he took some of the essence of the holy grail when the contents poured all over him. Hope that answers your question
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I think so too, but it's more comparable with Mystic Eyes and Tsubame Gaeshi, since it's not just a normal weapon like the Nail. I'll move it under a Special Technique category once I get back.
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