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American citizen who has been a long-time resident such as Madonna, Kevin Spacey and Gwyneth Paltrow can be considered English, but they are not. The fact that her children were born in the UK to a British father means nothing in relation to her national identity from a factual standpoint. The whole argument that her "own identification" should be respected basically boils down to that she pretends or wishes to be British and adapts a different accent depending what side of The Atlantic she's on, so that should now be accepted as a fact that she's British even though that is factually inaccurate. If she were referred to as 'an American-born actress based in Britain' that could be accurate. 'American-British' would be construed by most reasonable readers to mean that she is a citizen of both nations and that is simply not factual. "Self-identification" here means she considers herself British even though she is not "British" by any reasonable definition. Calling London her home and adopting an accent does not make her a British subject and the term 'American-British' is too vague and potentially confusing to many. Is there a compromise terminology that could be used that may be more accurate? 'American-British' could always be used if she seeks and receives citizenship. (
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