Talk:David Cameron/Archive 4

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function, or is merely of passing interest to some, is not relevant. It adds to the value of the article. Cameron's ancestry is of great interest to many, for example to journalists, in the USA where there is a great interest in genealogy, and in the Scottish and Jewish communities, to which Cameron has links. To understand a man's roots is to begin to understand the man - not to stereotype him, but to see how he accepts his roots or rebels against them. The article is about the whole man, not just his political aspect. For those interested in the genealogy of Cameron - and there are many - Knowledge offers a valuable service as the provider of a wide range of information. Knowledge should not be in the business of supressing factual information, unless totally irrelevant under any heading. The starting point for any biography should be family descent, for which reason the section should certainly remain in the main biographical article. It already forms in effect a separate chapter, easily skipped-over by those not interested. If the chapter on his family is to be moved to a new article, why not that on his education too? The Knowledge article has arguably become the definitive article on this British PM, a source of reference. (

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Jordan nee Bland, through to the fifth female generation Enid Agnes Maud Levita (Cameron’s maternal grandmother of Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry). Enid's grandfather was Emile Levita a German émigré banker who became a British citizen in 1871. Cameron's illegitimate link to the Royal Family is via his jewish grandmother's maternal line. William IV’s direct line of descendants died out with the death of Anthony Charles FitzClarence Seventh Earl of Munster in 2000. David Cameron is an illegitimate fifth cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II. Cameron is the second British Prime Minister of Jewish ancestry the first being Benjamin Disraeli.

1728:- not even by marriage. Alternatively, if his sister-in-law is his brother's wife then is he related to his sister-in-law's brothers, sisters, pareents etc? Again, most definitely not, not even by marriage. To claim that Cameron is related to Harriet Harman or Tony Adams is just plain incorrect. They are not blood relatives and they are not even related by marriage. All that has happened is that a relative of Cameron has married a relative of Harman or Adams. I say again, that does not mean they are related, even if The Sun and The Telegraph claim otherwise. 3141:

PM's questions to being special adviser to Norman Lamont. In this position, from the election to the demise of his boss, he played a key role in policy making. After Mr Lamont's aggrieved departure for the back benches, Mr Cameron was wooed by Michael Howard at the Home Office." There is also mention of a novel, "Hard News" by Tess Stimson, whose protagonist is also named David Cameron. Alice Thomson's piece also mentions Steve Hilton, now Cameron's Director of Strategy, and interestingly also mentions Labour leadership contender

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father and three preceding generations were all in banking. The detail about who was in business with whom and who helped the Rothschilds fund the Japanese in the Russo–Japanese War more than 100 years ago is absurdly detailed for an ancillary issue in an article about current Prime Minister. After paring those down, we can scoop out some celebrities (who doesn't want to scoop out celebrities?) and make it all one paragraph. -

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ever win a majority. Plus Labour have now admitted that they deliberately encouraged uncontrolled immigration after 1997 to keep the Conservatives out of office. It would be unfair if anyone reading the article believed that the UK was in any way similar to how it was when the Conservatives won in 1979 and 1983 before the last Labour government altered the ethnic makeup of the country. (

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Nuffield Study 'The British General Election of 2010' by Dennis Kavanagh and Philip Cowley, especially the section on pages 335-339 which discussed "Why .. did the Conservatives fail to achieve a clear majority?". It doesn't identify any of the issues you mention, I'm afraid, and I understand Andrew Neather disputes the interpretation you are making of his October 2009 column.

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it is drawing parallels between the two. Also, the penultimate observation (Grover cleveland) is puzzling. Churchill's own memoir of the Second World War is a perfectly reliable source for dates in 1940, corroborated in many other places, and it's a fact that Cameron became PM on 11 May. The comment by Off2riorob is simply patronising. Anyway, I'll leave you all to it.

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person in full-time work are just under £25,000. So "exclusive" is probably more factual than peacock. The fact that Cameron went to a school perceived as "prestigious and exclusive" is surely the reason why he is satirised as a Lord Snooty character. Are there any better adjectives, that convey the perception of Eton without being peacock terms?

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any General Election. The UK is a very different country from the one which elected Mrs Thatcher in 1979 and 1983. Plus since Labour broke up the UK with devolution it guarantees Scotland receives far more money than England. The only way the Conservatives can ever win a majority is if Scotland becomes independent. (

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and only an MOT and the wheels could be dropping off now. The article is bloated imo with excessive historic detail and family links. We could do a good article review as I don't think it has been assessed for a good while. As far as good article status goes, I can see promoted Oct 2007 but no review since then.

1782:] has a citation that says they are not so related, it is still on the Harman article. At least it was, the user has also just removed the content from there with the edit summary " Remove falsehood - she is not related to Cameron" , perhaps he has some additional details to support his claims. comments?. 4826:

I think there should be updated how David Cameron's perception in the media and in society has been weakened in the wake of the severe hacking scandal at News of the World and News International, and how his judgement regarding appointing NOTW ex-editor Andy Coulson has been put into question, not to

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Thanks. I'd hate to think that people who came to Knowledge looking for serious information about bumsex were getting a disappointing redirect to the David Cameron article. Seriously, this kind of vandalism is something we need to be vigilant about. I first reported similar offensive redirects to the

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I have access to it. It does indeed mention Cameron, briefly: "David Cameron, 27, is current class leader and, like many, was at Eton and Oxford. (Young politicos from the state system prefer John Major's quiet-rise technique, and take lower profile jobs.) He moved from briefing the prime minister at

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makes a good point above by asking is he related to his sister-in-law; of course he is (forgive me for using the universal 'he' here. The same arguments apply if Elvie is female). However, if his sister-in-law is his wife's sister then is he related to his sister-in-law's husband? Most definitely not

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This issue came up before (almost two years ago) - see the talk archives. Cameron's education at Eton has been used to criticise him for being elitist. I don't think we can rely on all readers being aware that Eton is regarded as being exceptionally exclusive even among public schools so some mention

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Well, it is now virtually certain that David Cameron will be the next PM. As talks between Lib & Lab have collapsed (as just announced on BBC), while talks with the Tories have been very strong. It is very obvious what will happen next... but I'll wait until something comes through in the press

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Personally I would take it completely out as polls go up and down and need explainations that dont belong in the lede.. perhaps the ...we are 22 percent ahead claim could be removed and a cite found that simply said that under cameron recently the tories have had a good showing in the polls. To start

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The simple fact is that there will never be a Conservative government ever again, only a Conservative prime minister of a coalition with the left-wing Liberal Democrats. With over 8 million people choosing not to work and voting Labour to keep their benefits it is impossible for the Conservatives to

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nothing should be removed but something should be added. david cameron told a female mp to calm down dear, and to listen to the doctor (referring to himself) many people believe this is sexist. when asked to apologise, cameron refused. my source is, just look it up... youtube, facebook, bbc.co.uk...

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old - Cameron is a direct descendant of King William IV, uncle of Queen Victoria, (great × 5 grandfather) and his mistress Dorothea Jordan (and thus fifth cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II). As an illegitimate royal descendant Cameron is not in the line of succession to the British throne.

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Well thank you but the fact that is is 70 years since harry met sally is meaningless to camerons biography, perhaps in the history of the conservative party article, but here it has nothing to do with this article. At least we agree on one thing, the article is poor. Good article is really just tidy

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The fact is that this article, though it has GA status, is dull and lacking in historical context. I don't much care whether you like my addition or not, but it is perhaps the sort of thing that can enliven the better biographical studies. And it is not, if you'll forgive me, "more about Churchill":

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This link should appear in the 4th paragraph: "In the 2010 general election held on 6 May, the Conservatives gained a plurality of seats in a hung parliament. Brown resigned and Cameron was appointed Prime Minister on 11 May 2010, on the basis of a coalition between the Conservatives and the Liberal

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These sections have way too much detail. In the political section, everything after his not being in the line of succession could go. His links to people most people have never heard of are simply not important enough to go into here. As regards the financiers, it would be sufficient to say that his

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It seems to me that it's notable that Cameron is related to the Royal family, and that a (possibly limited) number of royal relations is useful to demonstrate Cameron's notable links to royalty. Likewise, it seems to me that it's notable that Cameron has so many relatives/relations from Big Finance,

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Yes, but not to put too finer a point on it, The Sun and the guy who came up with this don't know what they are talking about. Consider a blood aunt (or uncle) of yours. Are you related to their spouse - yes you are, by marriage. Now consider the brother or sister of that uncle/aunt by marriage. Are

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This has been removed with the edit summary of "The Sun and Mr Andrews might think Cameron is related to Harriet Harman, but actually he isn't" . I remember wanting to remove this from the Harman article and the consensus there was to keep the detail. I don't see a good reason to remove it. Perhaps

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She is as you say your sister in law, your related only through marriage and not by blood. It is just less notable a fact in camerons life. Actually very unnotable really, trivia. Boris is by blood, as they are cousins. I think we should remove all the not by blood relations, its valueless, camerons

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No idea about the gap year, but there's a mention of his drug use in the "Education" section: apparently he allegedly smoked cannabis while at school, owned up to it, and was reprimanded. No mention as to whether or not he didn't inhale, but I'd assume it he wanted to pull a "Clinton" he'd have done

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It was actually. With Labour paying over 8 million adults of working age to live on benefits, as well as importing more than three million immigrants in a deliberate attempt to keep the Conservatives out of power (by their own admission), it wis impossible for the Conservatives to win a majority in

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As it is Armistice Day, I hope he read of the suicides of former soldier Mark Mullins and his disabled wife, reported in the Daily Mail who killed themselves after 18 months of struggling to survive on the £57.50 Jobseeker's Allowance payment Mr Mullins, a 48-year-old former Army physical training

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I concur with the above comments. They are certainly valid pictures for an article on the cuts but not for this article. They are not representative of the published sources and they only reflect one point of view. They are certainly not neutral and rather ironically the sentiments expressed by the

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I disagree. I think the section is currently fine, given that he has a number of ancestors with wikipedia entries who should be discussed in the main article. A number of his ancestors are notable, according to wikipedia's criteria for notability, in way that Obama's are not: therefore they deserve

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That can only be true if you also assert I am not related to my sister-in-law. I have always understood that one can be related to people either by blood or by marriage. I would consider it correct to say that "Tony Adams is not blood related to David Cameron", but perfectly true and valid to say

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Regarding his gap year, the education section seems to cover this - he stayed on at Eton until late 1984 (to sit the Oxford entrance exam), then worked for 3 months as a researcher in the Commons, then spent 3 months in Hong Kong working for a shipping firm. He returned via the Soviet Union to meet

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I agree with the last part but there is simply nothing to reach consensus about. One person posting their opinion is not a fact. If a genuine argument in reputable sources comes about that the Conservatives couldn't have won the election because of immigrants and people claiming benefits then it

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Agreed. Would an authoritative biography published of David Cameron have such a picture if (a) it had only 13 pictures or (b) if it could only have one picture to illustrate his popularity? The answer to both is no. So while it may have some relevance, and may be included at some juncture or in

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It is always of great interest to the world to know the descent of a US President, i.e. that J.F. Kennedy came from a certain village in Ireland, George Washington from a village in Norfolk, and that Ronald Reagan was purportedly related to Princess Diana. Whether that interest serves an academic

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new - Cameron is an indirect descendant of King William IV and his mistress Dorothea Jordan. This illegitimate line consists of five direct generations of women on his father's maternal side starting with Lady Elizabeth FitzClarence, William IV's sixth illegitimate child from his mistress Dorothea

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The Times SAT 17 JUL 1993 "Generation X: the power seekers" Twentysomethings have confounded their detractors. Alice Thomson, 26, charts the rise of a ruling class Pity the twentysomethings. They were babies in the 1960s while their mothers were running bra-less and barefoot. They were children in

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I'm beginning to wonder about the value of this section at all. As Cameron is related to the Royal Family, there are many,many other notable relatives not currently included in this list (The Queen, Prince Charles, Prince Edward, many members of European royal families). Is this section actually

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I don't recall Chmchum7 mentioning fictional presidents...? Chumchum7's reasoning does seem right - we should aim for consistency between various related articles (and I'd suggest that - even if PM isn't head of state - there's a strong relationship between the post of PM in the UK and the post of

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Ooh, which shipping firm in Hong Kong? And what did he do for the other 9 months of his gap year? The whole gap year could do with its own section, if only we can get the reliable sources. I see now the gap year must have been pre-university, around 1984. Anyway, I assume that anyone who was 22 in

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Yes, it is biased. Against Cameron. Far too many criticisms of him - suggestions that there is something wrong about having a prominent family, being wealthly, and going to a good school. Also suggestions that he is "moderate", implying the Conservatives are an extreme party; and the implication

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The quote starting "Turkey is 100 per cent right..." was not actually by Cameron, it is a childish paraphrasing by some Israeli professor. Generally I try to ignore reading about Israeli/Palestinian politics, and every time I read a wikipedia page and come across some completely pointless edit by

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a couple of editors have removed a ref to an attack by Boris Johnson on Ed M on the grounds that it is a "political opponent sounding off" (see "Martin Luther Miliband" on the Ed Miliband talk page. Personally I think this is absurd but I do think we should have some consistency on this. 06:41, 1

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One hundred and sixty years ago the grandfather of camerons grandmother was jewish, this is so distant and minuscule ancestor as to be not relevant at all. it makes Cameron about one thousandth percent jewish as in not jewish at all. We all walked out of africa, this far and away claim that he is

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I don't really want to press it, though I appreciate the considered observations directly above. The article itself does say that the coalition is the first since the Second World War. I just dislike the rather smug tone of certain commentators - historical parallels are no doubt terribly uncool,

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Cooltrainer Hugh has removed the interesting coincidence that Cameron formed his coalition virtually 70 years to the day since Churchill did so. Not sure why this is "not needed on this page": it's obviously far more important to know that Cameron is known to friends and family as 'Dave'! I shall

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No, Agent 95, it would not be appropriate to mention that. That would be like mentioning who might be President of the USA if they didn't have a law requiring the President to be a natural-born citizen. But there is such a law, just as there is a British law preventing illegitimate offspring of

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Both are true and the two statements are not in conflict. The key to the mystery is that Cameron was younger than Blair when first appointed. So first Blair became the youngest PM since Lord Liverpool, and then Cameron took the same title off Blair. You might want to argue that Blair's biography

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I kind of see why someone has deleted the adjectives "prestigious and exclusive" (describing Eton College) as peacock terms. On the other hand, I think it is of note that Cameron went to a school where the annual fees are around £26,500. For comparison, the median annual UK pre-tax earnings of a

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personally I think that this...the Conservatives were consistently ahead throughout 2008. is enough in the lede....adding the claim that on such a day accordind to ...whoever.. the conservatives enjoyed a 22 percent lead....this addition is a bit one sided and if you insist on having it then you

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This article is very long for an encyclopedia article and could do with some severe pruning. It is more like a specialist biography than an encylopedia entry. The style of writing needs to be very concise and every point needs to be examined for specific relevance, and avoidance of repetition.

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Seems like quite a big change and mostly asserts Cameron is Jewish? I don't know if he is Jewish but I remember recently we had a lengthy discussion over the family background and as this is quite a big change I though to point it out. Some unformatted citations have also been added. The last

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The "Mini Cooper" was named after the Cooper Car Co. or John Cooper, its owner, and not after Lady Diana Cooper. The relative clause "after whom the Mini Cooper motorcar was named" is almost certainly vandalism and ought to be removed as soon as possible. It's sloppy stuff like this that gives

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I like your reference to satirised as a Lord Snooty character, Bluewave. Too many Labour politicians are socialist dinosaurs who can thing of nothing more sophisticated that resorting to attacking those who are better educated than they are. Eton is prestigious because it maintains such high

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Talk pages aren't supposed to be used for a general discussion, but just to make this observation: I can remember a lot of articles and a few books being written in the early 1990s on the subject of why it was impossible for the Labour Party ever to win a general election again. I wonder what

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The purpose of a talk page is to discuss improvements to the article, not to have a general discussion about the topic. If you want to add to the brief discussion of the 2010 election then it has to be based on what reliable sources say. You might wish to read, for instance, chapter 16 of the

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I previously removed the sentences within the section 'Prime Minister' which describe the above in some detail. This takes up nearly half of the section 'Prime Minister', which seems disproportionate - these sentences describe background colour, they would be better transferred to the article

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Agree that the distinction is of value, but the current wording implies that all since Liverpool have been pensioners, which is misleading as Cameron succeeded another very young one. Indeed now an old PM would be unusual, not a young one, which is now unremarkable. The point of reference to

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I agree with Off2riorob. Where would we stop with this sort of coincidence? Do we put in the number of years since the last Liberal deputy prime minister, or since a 43-year old Liberal leader, or a Prime Minister educated at Eton, etc., etc? The 70-year fact is not a particularly unlikely

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The introduction should describe Cameron's government as a Conservative-led coalition, since the Cabinet is nearly entirely formed by Conservatives with only four Liberal Democrats. It is very different from Ramsey Macdonald's coalition government which was led by a Labour Prime Minister but

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you would find my remark less "puzzling". Just because we have a reliable source that says A, and another reliable source that says B, that doesn't permit us to put A and B together, if this implies a "new position" not found in any single one of the sources. Here your "new position" is an

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I noticed the IPA transcription saying his surname is pronounced /ˈkəmrən/ - or 'Cumrun', in other words. Since the name is hardly an uncommon English name (I can think of a well-known film director with the same one), does it need transcribing? Especially when the transcription is a bizarre

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I'm not sure the 'related by blood' distinction is sustainable. It's certainly not justified by any Knowledge guidance or policy that I am aware of. The logical conclusion is that Cameron is more closely related to Boris Johnson than Samantha Cameron! I think we are in danger of making up

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should be included - along with the counter arguments. But it won't because this simplistic "them against us" ignores the fact that plenty of immigrants and benefit claimants do vote conservative, it also ignores the reality of the First Past the Post system where you don't need a majority.

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Wouldn't it be proper to include David Cameron as not only the Prime Minister at the beginning of the article, but also the First Lord of the Treasury, and Minister for the Civil Service. At the least add First Lord of the Treasury as it is this position that gives him access to Number 10.

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This discussion, though, has highlighted the point that this is a very emotive topic where no consenus is liable to be reached. (A consensus on this might take a hundred years or so, and there would still probably be arguing.) There is a need to examine what should be put in this article.

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to link the Libya deployment to the very different circumstances of the Suez crisis merely because they are in the same region, and gives rise to suspicion that it is an attempt to convey that the result of the Libya deployment may be similarly disastrous (which is pure speculation).

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In terms of the number of relatives listed, it may be bigger than those articles, but the section of the article uses up less size on the page, which is surely the important factor here. It's a relatively concise section, not difficult to scroll through if you're uninterested in it.

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The reason I'm feeling so daft richt now is: I'm a Kiwi (my head of state is one "Elizabeth II"); I live in the UK (head of state one "Elizabeth II"); NZ has long standing relations with Tuvalu; I've campaigned on Jamaican issues in a past life (based on Jamaica being a Commonwealth

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I've taken it out of the Harman article as well. I don't doubt that his great uncle married her aunt - well at least the Sun says so, but that does not make them relatives. If Harman's aunt did indeed marry Cameron's great uncle, then Cameron's great uncle is Harman's great uncle

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If David Cameron is a descendant of William IV, does this not mean that he is somewhere (probably very distant, but still somewhere) in the line of succession to the British throne? If so, how far back? And if not, why not? Either way, it would be appropriate to mention it.

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Fair enough, accepted, either move it there or leave a single comment here, there is a weight of support for that, regards. Feel free to revert or alter, I have removed the book stuff but kept the first date for PMQs as I think this is noteworthy and cited it and added a small

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I'm all for using up-to-date images, but is there anything better than the new one that's been put up? The previous image was a nice large and clear image. He's absolutely tiny in the image that's being used now, and completely dominated by the sign in the background.

974:), not republics. As for the British PM - US President relationship, there is quite a strong relationship between these posts indeed, and there are some similarities, at least in terms of political influence/effective political power in some ways, but however it is 3724:

I agree it seems rather problematic. A sentence or two on general performance at question time would be suitable, but a whole paragraph on these two "breaches of protocol" which sound far more serious than it really is, seems a bit of an over reaction and gives it

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Wiki Best practice dictates that 'political commentary' (aka criticism) is built within the main article. I see the using of the term 'political commentary' as nothing more than a smokescreen for a ideologically-driven npov criticism section. Please refer to the

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Bastin is right. The decision to push for a United Nations Security Council Resolution (and the use of UK military capacity in pursuance of it) is significant, especially since sources generally ascribe the decision to David Cameron's personal push. But it is

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Don't get me wrong, but whoever wrote that really needs a reality check and placed it in the worst possible place. There viewers who use this website had recieved a 2:1 or even haven't got a degree. This website is openned to the public and around the world.

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Might it be an idea to mention his age at the time of appointment as Prime Minister as 43 years 214 days (or however many it was) in order to distinguish him from Tony Blair who was also 43 years old, and was at the time the youngest PM since Liverpool?

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Firstly can you provide any references which support your characterisation of the book incident as 'extremely notable'? And secondly do you not agree that even if retained, this paragraph represents a level of detail that would be better suited to the

has said of Cameron, "You have to wonder about a man who surrounds himself with so many people who went to the same school. I'm pretty sure I don't want 21st-century Britain run by people who went to just one school."" because in the article on

1937:"Tony Adams, Former Arsenal and England captain, is related by marriage to David Cameron. His wife Poppy Teacher, from the Teacher's whisky family, is a cousin of Julia Mount, the wife of Ferdinand Mount, Cameron's first cousin once removed." 3643:

Liverpool has become a cliche and needs to be replaced with something more relevant. I would suggest "he is the Xth youngest ever PM after 1/, 2/, Liverpool et al." That might be of more interest, if you feel inclined to research the data. (

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When harry met sally, as in..(the interesting coincidence that Cameron formed his coalition virtually 70 years to the day since Churchill did so.) pointless factoid that has got zero to do with the living person david camerons life story.

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Do you realise how offending and confusing that is to many viewers who use the internet? It also make David Cameron look like a tool. Don't put it has the first set of paragraphs on the entire page, place it in the eduction section.

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Go for it. What I would leave in the main article are: (1) names of parents and grandparents; (2) the source of the family fortune; and (3) the link through William IV to the Queen. Everything else should go into a well-signposted

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No problem. I too agree that it is reasonable to compare the two, as they are both political leaders. As for the Queen being shared as head of state amongst several countries, many countries (16 in total; the four oldest being: the

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I was thinking that this image File:Davidcameron.jpg is a better picture than the current image used on the page. Does anyone have an opinion on this and if so, should the picture be changed? MWhite 15:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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No, it says he is related to Tony Adams who is defintely notable, and the Telegraph article is a reliable citation. The mention of Poppy Teacher is not because she is notable, but to explain how Cameron is related to Adams.

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The BBC article (thanks from me, too!) suggests he's never declared that he has taken cannabis, simply that he hasn't refuted allegations that he did. I'd be very surprised if he declared he'd taken ecstasy (but that's my own

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EC..The last photo was good but sometime we need to move on and I have cropped the pic in an attempt to make it a bit better. The best thing it has going for it is that it is up to date. I am neutral as to if it is kept.

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I'm much less convinced that all the celebrity relatives are necessarily notable in the context of a senior politician. However, I would certainly prefer a short list of celebrity relations to a long, albeit cited, list.

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I take davos dated back, actually that was also 2010, the davos picture was not perfect though imo and looking at the two and with the assumption that we will likely get pretty regular updated pics I support the change.

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Thanks for that. Great that Miliband was mentioned as well. The reason I started looking was that there was plenty of great info regarding Cameron's early career where the refs are to articles without links - mostly

668:. Interestingly enough, the BBC link says `At the start of his leadership, Mr Cameron was all about sunny optimism and "sharing the proceeds of growth". He told activists in his first party conference speech to " 3950:, but just more notable issues or landmarks in his career that received a degree of reporting. You are more than welcome to attempt to integrate the individual issues into the general body of the article as per 1224:

I wouldn't say so, to be honest. A lot of people go to private schools in the UK. By just describing Eton as a "private school", nothing is being done to differentiate it from the many other private schools.

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happened in the general elections of 1997, 2001 and 2005. Parties change, the political system changes, countries change, but one thing doesn't: the public like to change their governments every now and then.

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His brother is Alexander, which we have here as both 'Alec' and 'Alex'. Some reputable references (eg. Daily Telegraph, The Independent) have themselves used both forms, but can we identify which is 'right'?

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There is an Israel section that has criticism listed against Cameron about Israel. However, it doesn't site what the comments that provoked these responses were. What he said should be listed in this section.

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only has 13. This article on Cameron mentions no less than 29 related individuals with wikilinked entries, which rather supports the argument that it is excessive. But do please check my counting. Regards.

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I've reverted the redirect and protected that page (it looks like it's up for deletion - I'm not going to mess with that as I tend to avoid CSD stuff. For now, the redirect seems at least somewhat logical.)

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I agree with you that it is disproportionate at the moment. A sentence in this article would suffice I think. The text as it stands currently takes up more text space than the coalition formation. This is a

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David Cameron would have been in trouble in May 1982 not May 1983 regarding the cannabis allegations at Eton. He would have been studying for his A-levels in May 1983, taking them in the summer of 1984.

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I take your point regarding head of state; however, I think it's reasonable to compare PM with President for article purposes, even if David Cameron gets less "bangs" than Barack Obama in a gun salute ;-)

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Is the article disputed anymore? If not perhaps we could have a neutrality check and then have the tag removed? I'd do this myself but seeing as I asked for it I'd like to give someone else a shot first.

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The page is decent and tidy, but also ostensibly positive, it wouldn't surprise me if Cameron himself saw to it that his people kept an eye on this page, being the one which appears pretty much first on

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Current image is awful and needs to be changed. The previous image (Davos) looked better than this G8 one does. I hope that image was not taken by someone employed by the British taxpayer, what a waste!

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I removed him from the cat, British people of Jewish descent. He has a maximum of one eigth part and that is to distant imo to warrant calling and categorizing him as a person of Jewish descent.

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to the top which is a redlink and looking at previous MP Gordon Brown he is not numbered like that, I have not done the edit request but please comment more what you were trying to do, thanks.

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The reason I said that was because your paragraph, though correct and interesting, is more about Churchill than Cameron, and seeing as the page is David Cameron, it shouldn't be included here.

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and much of the content within was trimmed and NPOV'ed sometime last year as I was involved in a minor way. I will also say that I would dispute that the content within the present section is

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was deleted on April 23, then restored on May 9 - with an unjustified block threat against the editor who removed it. Personally, I am not sure that the image is consistent with Knowledge's

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Clearly your wife is a very close person to you and becomes your next of kin. I don't know if there is instruction in guidelines but in real life blood relations are considered much more

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It should be considered that Cameron's small element of Jewish ancestry might be of interest to Jewish readers of Knowledge. I can see no reason for removal of this valuable reference. (

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Labour changed its name and adopted several of Mrs Thatcher's policies to make itself electable in England. If John Reid had replaced Blair instead of Brown they might have held on. (

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implication that the Cameron government is in some sense a successor to Churchill's government, or comparable with it. Unless this comparison is found in a reliable source then the

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in the next few months that makes the very point. I doubt it's any more interesting to know that Cameron had his bike stolen or that he supports Aston Villa! Anyway, over and out.

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lists 50 schools (involved in a price-fixing scandal, but that's not relevant) and over half have fees above £20,000 per year (at the time Eton's fees are listed as being £23,688).

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He "... described learning about his Jewish ancestors as one of the highlights of his year." He "... spoke of learning about his ancestors, the Levitas, as a personal highlight."

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I'm pretty naive when it comes to this stuff - I assume there's no real justification for adding the Obama/Cameron relationship? Pity - it would be an interesting fact to add...

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Very true. And "it is known that Camerons are an ancient Scottish clan" is not a good source. However this man's ancestry is clearly very Scottish. Is that ethnicity? No idea.

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Because he's rich so you'd expect him to pay to get the best education, but instead he sends her to a public school to show his support. Imagine the controversy if he didn't!

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I'm not convinced this all belongs in the education section - it could perhaps be moved down to the next section ("political career") or a sub-section under education created?

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he took a year out travelling. I dont immediately see a mention of this in our article. Does anyone have proof of where and when he took this year out? Secondly, he was 22 in

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it by now, and he'd prefer us to think that he's intelligent enough to know how to smoke a joint ;-) (Post-Clinton it does seem that politicians recognise that the public

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Davos, is a bit dated... the picture is a tad blurry and will need an expert to start further modifications (not me). Lets take a little while and see if it grows on us.

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I also support keeping the section/s as they are now, although it would not be something I would be wanting to know, as a historic interest it is well cited and notable.

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The firm was Jardine. He spent ~3 months at Eton, 3 months at Westminster, 3 months in HK, then (presumably) the final 3 months travelling back to the UK via the USSR.

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I'd certainly regard it as interesting trivia, too! Even if the link is only distant, I'd consider this notable enough to be mentioned. Is there a compelling reason

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Ah, sorry, I didn't read the archives! Yes, I don't think the current version, describing Eton just as a "private school" quite conveys how the place is perceived.

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citation there doesn't support the comment imo, it doesn't mention Cameron is Jewish or the Disraeli is Jewish, in fact the op ed doesn't mention jewish at all?

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actually he isnt prime minister until he goes to see the queen, she asks him to form a goverment and offers her hand, then and only then is he prime minister

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Cameron stated that the "doctrine of state multiculturalism" (promoted by the previous Labour government) has failed and will be no longer be state policy<

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for tax purposes, Cameron stated: "He's obviously going to end this status and become a full UK taxpayer and he needs to do that as rapidly as can be done."

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It's already in the article - and probably has too much prominence as it is. If it needs to be written in more detail, the best articles for that would be

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As for the notability of the relationship, is it more or less notable than his relationship to his 8th cousin (which I saw was included in the article)?

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Shouldn't the article mention the fact that it would have been impossible for the Conservative Party to win a majority in the 2010 General Election? (

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does so. (No, your honour, I wasn't looking up Bumsex on Knowledge.) Not sure how to sort this out but I'm sure someone knows how to get it deleted.

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someone intent on turning every page on the internet into a pro-Israel/anti-Islam campaigning ground, I become just a little bit more anti-semite.

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better, but still not as good as the Davos one. This one still has a somewhat blurry look to it. I don't know whether we do anything about that? --

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gives the pronunciation of this surname as KAM-(ə)-rən, which covers both common pronunciations of the name. Can we have this on this page too?

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I agree. I would suggest deleting the section altogether, and integrating any material that is notable in its own right into the other sections.

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Totally agree. Also, we do not need to know that "He is also a great × 4 great-nephew of James Hanway Plumridge." This seems excessive detail.

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that people would support which could be used (where the new image came from), i presume theres no copyright problems with using one from there.

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should make it clear that he has subsequently been deprived of the honour of being 'youngest PM since Liverpool', but it was true at the time.

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So the allegation is that Cameron is related to Poppy Teacher (not notable), second wife of Tony Adams. I don't think that should be included.

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In the UK a "public school" is an expensive private school - hence the term "state school" (I'm not making this up, although it is April 1st)

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Good call, you didn't need to post as to why you removed it. Any reasonable person wouldn't have reverted your edits. They were very good.--

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the Conservatives were consistently ahead throughout 2008. As of May 2009 the Conservatives enjoyed a lead of up to 22 points over Labour.

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has accused the party of a lack of consistency, saying: "The Tories claim they will not be seduced by City wealth and try to talk tough on

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allow for the insertion of the other side .. so I think removal is better for the article or add it to the article about polls results... (

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to get it oversighted, i.e removed. Hopefully the perpetrator will be banned. Political biographies should be permanently semi-protected.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/8305346/Muslims-must-embrace-our-British-values-David-Cameron-says.html

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There was undue weight to the minutae of his stance towards Israel. "Not everyone agreed" with is speech is a statement of the obvious!

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I also agree, its excessive, it has all been expanded recently, looking back a little it was just as informative and much less bloated.

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Cameron has a net +2% approval rating. This compares to a net -19% approval rating of Miliband and net -56% approval rating of Clegg.

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be written by focusing on his ancestry, but that the section that results is disproportionately long (due to that focus), it should be

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consisted mainly of Conservatives. In the newspapers the present government is usually described as "the Conservative-led coalition". (

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but the large donations they continue to receive tell another story." The party insists that donations have "no influence" on policy.

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Agreed. Surely someone could put in a request to the Number 10 website asking for permission to use the official photos on Knowledge.

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entries for examples of best practice. I am quite happy to do the work but will give some time for other editors to consider my view.

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The book waving incident and attempting to quote from it is extremely notable, I would like to keep that in preference to neither.

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These sections all seemed to be "related" (apologies: difficult to avoid, that pun...) I've brought them under one parent section.

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Hi, the links from ggrandfather Sir Arthur Levita and gggrandfather Sir Emile Levita both lead to an incorrect page (Cecil Levita

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It's a much better picture than the current picture, but it needs to be cropped a bit more. MWhite 18:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

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and adviser to Cameron on green issues. It is alleged that two payments were invalid owing to Goldsmith not being entered on the

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Democrats. At the age of 43, Cameron became the youngest British Prime Minister in 198 years. The Cameron Ministry is the first '

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Under Cameron's leadership, throughout 2008 and to date, the Conservatives have been consistantly ahead of Labour in the polls. (

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The 'Political commentary' section basically seems like a collection of criticisms on some editors' specific hobby horses. Per

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I disagree with your first point ("harry met sally"?), but at least we agree it's a crummy article, packed with a load of junk.

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please be polite and focus on content and not contributors. That type of content will perhaps be better at this new article..

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and that a (possibly limited) number of financial relatives is useful to demonstrate Cameron's notable links to Big Finance.

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The IPA's clearly wrong. You can't have two short schwa-syllables. Many would pronounce it as three syllables: /ˈkæmərən/

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in the United Kingdom since the Second World War and was formed 70 years virtually to the day after Churchill's in 1940."

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to be discussed in the main article (as is the case for Churchill, Boris Johnson and many other wikipedia biographies).

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Knowledge a bad name. If an article needs to be protected, is there no mechanism for removing vandalism before doing so?

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He's not Jewish, but has a small amount of Jewish ancestry, as is stated in the second paragraph of the Family section.

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I'm in two minds about this. On the one hand, Eton is by no means the only public school to charge fees at this level:

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Is it worth mentioning that Cameron is the first Prime Minister to deploy military force in North Africa since Eden? (

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pronunciation that I've never heard anybody use? Would've changed it myself but thought I might be missing something.

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Why someone removed that his ethnicity is Scottish? It is very well known that Camerons are an ancient Scottish clan!

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scene, and he is on the record as favouring drug liberalization. What has he declared about his illegal drug use or

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That picture is ok but fails the time test, it is from 2006 and the pic we have in the infobox now is from 2010.

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since Cameron became leader. Four donors contributed a total of £7m, these including the Conservative Party co-

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Where is the Knowledge guidance that assigns greater notability to blood relationships over those by marriage?

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No. It's worth mentioning that he deployed force in Libya, but factoids about North Africa are not notable.

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The copyrights all look ok there , I don't mind which pic is chosen, if you want any cropping I can do that.

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standards, not because of the fees charged. I envy those able to attend such schools, I don't despise them.

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instructor, was able to claim, having to walk 12 miles to eat free soup at a Salvation Army soup kitchen.

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non-sustainable rules as we go along just to suit this questionable section. Any other views from anyone?

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Chumchum 7: Could you please clarify exactly what relevance fictional presidents have in this? Thank you.

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There is no purpose in mentioning American presidents here. Cameron is a British PM, not a US president!

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I believe Nick Clegg was only officially made Deputy Prime Minister on 12 May (today). Is that not right?

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Cameron does indeed have a number of ancestors and relations with Knowledge entries. But the article on

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Doh! Two countries that have the same head of state as mine... Apologies, 199..., and thanks, Knowzilla.

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etc. I imagine they would be very interesting to read in full but alas, they're not freely accessible.

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Why is related by marriage not a valid relation? Does that mean I'm not related to my sister-in-law?

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Gordon Brown article about a year ago and it looks like the same kind of thing is cropping up again.

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only mentions 11 other wikilinked people who are related to the subject; and even the aristocratic

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actually imo and not notable in Camerons life story. Whereas the fact that he is related by blood to

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Today's Telegraph describes the Budget as the first by the Conservative-led coalition government. (

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This is basically the impression I got while skimming over this article - it is absurdly biased. -

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But it actually says the they are related through marriage in the cited text that you removed?

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to pretty much all other public schools. But I have no idea how to say that without throwing

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Cameron apparently met Thatcher on the 8th of June. Should this be included in the article?

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that it is usually described like that, also that is already clear from reading the lede.

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The heading's text overlies the image. Can someone quickly repair this issue? Thanks.

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His father was born in Scotland and he is known to belong to the Scottish Cameron clan.

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distant cousin? ;-) Presumably though their respective relations with the Queen?

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Tending to agree, also. Two reasons: firstly, this needs to be something that a

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Since Cameron is younger than Blair was in 1997 it is completely irrelevant. (

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to a certain aspect of his life, which contributes to giving the article a

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is related to David Cameron through her aunt's marriage to his great uncle.

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Who still can't tell the difference between "relative" and "relation"...

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saying 22 percent means that detail can be added to balance the claim. (

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Could you please provide citations to support your claim that they are

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relationship. We shouldn't have daftness from The Sun in any articles.

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and signalled a tougher stance on groups promoting Islamist extremism.

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you related to that person - no you are not. Family links end at the

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royalty and their descendants from ever acceding to the throne. --

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We only know when the Palace or Cameron himself announces so wait.

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That's the start to the article. Anyone got a subscription to the

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than the in laws and we are also allowed to use our common sense.

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might have had a couple of meaningful experiences at the time. -

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A picture from 2006 would be better as he had more hair then. (

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It's all there: I'm simply reading from the current article ;-)

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Yes, of course. Because if that's not ethnicity, then what is?

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surname is "Macdonald". Surnames don't really imply ethnicity.

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Removed as per my investigation of your report, many thanks -

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It would be useful to stick to specific facts in the article.

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link to the exhaustive article about his family and ancestry.

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was also a descendant of royalty, his ancestress having been

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coincidence or especially relevant to the article content.

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Thanks, I know he's British. I was referring to wikipedia

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Hangs Head in Shame at Remembrance Day Service Over Cuts?

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adding any value or is it trivia that should be removed?

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19th cousin - twice. I regard it as interesting trivia.

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sister is married to a tv chef, its not notable trivia.

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Eaglesham, Jean; O'Murchu, Cynthia (12 February 2010),

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IXIA, perhaps if you clicked on the link I provided to

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between the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats....

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some sub-article, it should not be there and now, per

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Jewish is so distant as to have no relevance at all.

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Could have been worse - Ed Balls as PM, for example.

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I disagree. The section is now defined and correct.

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