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because it is not stored in the database (which the mirror sites copy from), it is dynamically generated each time you view the "Special:" page. A disambiguation page is not a list of articles, it is a list of topics which may or may not have existing articles, or may even be discussed in only a small portion of a broader article. These would be important topics to include on the disambiguation page, though they would generally not appear in the page title query. —
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How can you view wp outside wp? You seem to be hinding behind a supposed technicality and are not addressing my main point which is that this should be an article not a list ... the place for lists is the special place, which will always be more complete - how can that be wrong? As for the dates you
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Sites with advertisement banners are suspect. Whilst you can include a link to such a site as further reading, references should be to the original publications. Suggest you dive into decent publications (like Hanks, Patrick and Flavia Hodges, A Dictionary of First Names, Oxford
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