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2033:– the whole section you just removed is a special case of the generalization of Descartes theorem. The discussion was focused on the algebraic identity which is directly analogous to the "Descartes theorem" identity for the mutually-tangent-circle configuration. The purpose of including it was to (a) demonstrate how the generalization works in a specific case, and (b) show how the two "soddy circles" (related by the ± cases of the find-the-fourth-curvature version of Descartes' theorem) are strictly related to each-other as well as related to the other three circles, while (c) also showing how Descartes' theorem is related to nearby topics in inversive geometry. All of that is directly relevant to this article. I don't see how removing it benefits readers. We don't have a page limit here, but even if we did this article is not excessively long or sprawling. Many (most?) readers probably won't read all the way from beginning to end, but it's not like they're being subjected to an arbitrary snorefest mishmash here, and some readers will likely find the section relevant and interesting. – 2187: 138: 2070:. All the rest of the article is filler. Because the part I want is buried two levels down somewhere in the middle of the article, it always takes me much longer to find it than it would for a better-focused article. All the rest is literally wasting my time, repeatedly, every time I want to refer to the article. It's annoying. I don't want this article to be equally annoying by becoming buried in stuff you don't want to look up to the point where finding the parts you do want to look up becomes difficult. — 128: 107: 3491:– In the event that the three circles are all mutually tangent, then yes it is always non-negative. The case where they are externally tangent has all of the ks positive. The case where two circles are nested inside another the product of the ks for the two smaller circles must be at least as large as the sum of products of each with the k for the circle enclosing them, with equality when the two internal circles each have half the radius of the enclosing circle. Then 4210:
notes for different types of textual notes. Others use numbered or author/year parenthetical references referencing a bibliography list along with textual notes using some other format. Some use per-chapter endnotes while others put all the notes at the end of the book. Some bibliography lists are very compressed auth. (yr.) journ. abbrev., vol.: pg., with no paper title. Others include detailed annotations about each bibliography entry. Etc.
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envelope of lines, and so on), so spherical Laguerre transformations can be represented, just like spherical Möbius transformations, as fractional linear transformations of complex numbers; but the Euclidean plane has circular angles and flat distances, so the dual Laguerre geometry switches these, and Laguerre transformations are modeled by fractional linear transformations of
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yields one solution while using a − sign in both equations yields the other. In other cases, both of those are wrong; one solution is found using a + sign in one equation and a − sign in the other, while the other solution is found by swapping those signs. I haven't yet determined what makes the difference.
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Sure, there are many ways to do this, and we do not have to observe the paper-based dichotomy of "explanatory footnote directly on the page, citations referring to bibliography at the end" (it would be nice to have to have support for this distinction for printed Knowledge articles, but I don't think
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I agree with this. An article about a theorem should do a bit better job showing or at least explicitly linking to proofs. The history section mentions that "Multiple proofs of the theorem have been published" but does not directly cite any of those inline, and the few-words summaries are unhelpfully
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can transform tangent circles into parallel lines or vice versa. So with these conventions it is indeed possible for three lines to be mutually tangent: just make them all parallel. However in this case it would only be possible to make the fourth thing that is tangent to all of them be another line,
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In par 3 under Special Cases: "...as it is not possible for three lines and one circle to be mutually tangent." - my immediate reaction was 'incircle of a triangle?' Probably should be clarified that mutual tangency of three lines makes no sense. But then the previous case of two parallel lines being
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As for expanding our quote of the poem later in the article: I'm not entirely persuaded that we have a valid fair-use case for doing so, and I think the quote is part of a summary of later material already: it is used to point towards the discussion of the poem in the history section, but it is also
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for helping with the article! Formal recognition or brag sheets are indeed secondary to article improvement (getting a thorough GA review is more important to me than having another green plus to display on my user page). But it can help slightly with your standing inside Knowledge so it is not just
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The general concept surely dates from the 19th century. Who came up with the version in the Knowledge article? I think they messed up with the name; it could be called the "inversive circle dot product" or "circle cosine" or something (Kocik uses the name "Pedoe product"), as even though distance is
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If someone wanted Knowledge articles to render better for printing it would be possible to make with CSS, but a significant challenge to handle all of the range of possible edge cases. (It would be great to see a same-page footnote version, with the notes repeated any time they are referenced again
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I'm not sure which "paper-based dichotomy" you mean. Books and research journals have an even wider range of practices than Knowledge articles. Many freely mix bibliographical information with textual notes, using either footnotes, sidenotes, or endnotes. Some use a combination of footnotes and end
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can be interpreted based on the inverse (Euclidean) diameter under stereographic projection (conformal disk model). It would be nice if we had an article or section somewhere on Knowledge describing more clearly what curvature of a curve or generalized circle means in spherical/hyperbolic geometry,
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To be clear: I am not suggesting we should try to get fancy about areas in the straight line case. It just falls between the other two (I guess I might also mention one additional case when the center is on the triangle and one of the triangles degenerates, with area 0). Maybe the clearest for this
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of each pairs of circles in the resulting configuration (including of each circle with itself along the diagonal), and by changing the coefficients in the matrix we can enforce different conditions on the circles. (I got tripped up a bit because the particular "Descartes configuration" matrix above
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Re potentially relegating renumbered footnotes and (consisting of both a citation and some text describing how the citation supports the cited claim) into a separate notes section and then splitting off the citations from these footnotes into footnotes-within-footnotes: see ongoing discussion at
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because then readers can very easily see how this matrix equation is equivalent to "equation 1" from earlier in the article. It seems to me that taking that part out makes that section of the article slightly more compact but substantially harder for semi-technical readers to follow (say someone a
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I would have no objection to similarly repurposing the removed subsection on Steiner chains as part of another article. I don't think it's bad content, in general. It just seemed overdetailed regarding stuff that is not the relation between curvatures of four tangent circles for inclusion in this
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have you done any survey of the published proofs of Descartes' theorem? Can we make a section including a couple of them or at least providing a sketch? I feel like a section about proofs of this theorem (and maybe some more images for the history section) is the only thing really missing to make
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Coxeter's version of "inversive distance" apparently only considers non-intersecting circles and takes the arccosh of the absolute value of the Knowledge article's concept, which is more like a distance, but has the problem that it erases the orientation of the circle from consideration and also
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I've been writing a program to generate Apollonian Gaskets, and I've come to a minor hiccup. It seems the ± sign in Equation 2 does not correspond to the ± sign in the unnumbered equation immediately after Equation 4 (Complex Descartes' Theorem). In some cases, using a + sign in both equations
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Personally I freely add text to "ordinary" Knowledge footnotes any time it seems like the text would be helpful to readers but is distracting or out of scope for the main body text, on all sorts of articles, most of which have no separate "textual notes" section distinct from the "bibliographic
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On the sphere, where both distances and angles are circular, there's a precise duality between the two (the dual of every point is an oriented great circle, and vice versa; every triangle has a dual "trilateral", every spherical conic as a locus of points has a dual spherical conic which is the
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but figuring out what the scope and focus should be for an article and how to organize it is a bit daunting, since this is a topic which appears regularly here and there but is uncommon enough to have never quite crystallized into part of the canon or have particularly widely adopted or settled
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As an example of a practical application, a "circular mesh" is a quadrilateral mesh where every face is a cyclic quadrilateral, a property preserved under Möbius transformations. A dual idea, the "edge offset mesh" has every edge emanating from a vertex lying on a common right circular cone, a
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Personally I don't really see an issue with the current use of the poem in the lead. The line from the poem is mainly used as a convenient device for stating the theorem in English words instead of introducing a bunch of symbols in the lead section; the full text of the poem isn't really that
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Answering myself: After re-reading, I realize that my paraphrasing is wrong too. My apologies. I think that the clarification needs to be made in the following sentence, though. Something along the lines of "By solving this equation, one can start with three given mutually tangent circles and
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By the way, since I don't see it anywhere here: jacobolus made significant improvements to the article in the lead-up to its GA nomination and should get credit for that if this passes GA. I nominated this myself but am happy to see jacobolus's continued involvement in the GA review process.
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It's not really true that "mutual tangency of three lines makes no sense". In the geometry of circles and lines it makes sense to think of lines as a limiting case of circles with infinite radius, and to think of parallel lines as being a limiting case of tangent circles. For instance, a
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I guess the image could perhaps seem a bit out of scope insofar as we don't give any examples of kissing (generalized) circles in the hyperbolic plane, which might make it seem like unmotivated detail in a section which is otherwise quite condensed. I still think it's helpful, but YMMV.
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is another. Again, we have an article about it, where more detailed material can go. The fact that you can measure the inversive distances of arbitrary circles and put them into a matrix is not particularly informative. And again, it's not particularly on-topic here. In that sense, the
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For the poem, Soddy died in 1956 so it will become free on 1 January 2027. Citing four lines instead of two would still be perfectly acceptable though. Gosset died in 1962 so it is 1 January 2033 for his poem. Awaiting your responses to my other points (none of them showstoppers).
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hooks for this article – which itself has well-sourced and neutral text, and appears to be free of copyvio. It also has great images, although those are outside the scope of this review. As the article and hooks meet DYK criteria, this is good to go! Very nicely done as usual,
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The poem doesn't appear in the body; generally I prefer not to have extra stuff in the lead. Maybe you can have a little more of the poem in the body, perhaps something explaining about positive and negative curvatures or how "a fifth sphere in the kissing shares" in the 3d
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Re "perhaps use again as in 15b?": done (causing footnote renumbering). Re " could be used to clarify that Gosset was not the only one to generalise to higher dimensions": this was already done when the Gardner reference was added: "Gosset and several others extended the
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Sources are fine with just tiny comments, no original research, no problems of copying or close paraphrasing detected. Will put on hold just so you get a notification that I'm done reviewing, not because I think it will take a long time to fix the little issues I found.
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is outside all three angles of the triangle (in the interior of one of the vertical angles. The easiest way to deal with all of these is to allow a negative radius, but it might be unnecessarily confusing. The next easiest way is to note that the sides adjacent to
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centered on one of the points of tangency; the resulting configuration will consist of two parallel lines with a circle sandwiched between them, at which point it should be obvious that there are two choices for the fourth circle. Actually, according to
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A construction of what, from what givens? If you are just going to make me guess what you mean by repeating the same question in the same words that you already asked, I am not going to be able to give you a better answer than the one I already gave.
4241:'s "significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article" as the poem is covered, even if without quotes. That said, I do hope there will be more of the poem in the article once it becomes PD. — 2882:, which we describe early in the history of this section. It is the attempted reformulation of this problem using algebra rather than compass and straightedge that led Descartes to Descartes' theorem, as we also describe in the history section. — 1191:
algebraic and unsatisfying proof that I encountered. They all seem to have a similar flavor: take a relatively simple piece of geometry (Heron's formula, Pappus chains, etc) and then elaborate it into a page or two of algebra to get the formula.
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If readers don't understand that an equation involving four things can be solved to find one of the things from the other three, then perhaps their level of mathematical sophistication does not reach that of the target audience for this article.
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It might be nice to add a section about more general relationships between circles, beyond Steiner chains. For example here's a paper where out of four circles two of them intersect, with the other two tangent to both of those and each-other:
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The problem is that not every reader has quite as much experience or context as you have. So parts that seem to you to be unnecessary filler may be essential context for someone else. (This is of course a universal challenge in technical
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History: Can't find the claim that Descartes' reasoning was "lost" in Coxeter, just that there is no complete proof in the letter. (From a quick skim read of the French original letter, it looks like there is very little proof there, if
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Thank you! I didn't stop to think why it is clear the term under the square root can't be negative. In any case this means the formula is always valid without further qualifications, so there is probably no need to do anything here.
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I'm not able to edit the article right now due to Knowledge technical problems (keeps timing out), but I made an image showing the 4 radii in the Heron's formula proof. If I can't successfully add it to the article, feel free to.
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of Descartes' Theorem. Ideally, at least the gist should appear in the lede, and the full statement should have been given by the next section (if not within the lede). A reader should not, for example, have first to read of the
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In this matter, for myself. I'd choose the later. Good grief, Descartes' theorem has it's own disambiguation page. How sucky is that? If he'd been any more productive, perhaps the thing to do would be to assign his theorems
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It looks like an error: you start with three circles, solve the equation and reach a fourth. The way it's stated now reads like "you start with four circles, solve and equation, and reach a fourth circle", which doesn't make
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The article mentions how the theorem has been extended to spheres and even arbitrary dimension hyperspheres. Is it possible anyone can add the equations for either of those? Even just 3D spheres for now would be nice.
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Re Gosset: added "the following year" and mentioned that he was one of several to do so, but again the poem is likely under copyright. Added the original version of the Gardner ref (easier to find for those with JSTOR
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Integer curvatures: Just to clarify, is the root quadruple the one with the smallest signed curvature or the smallest positive curvature? (I.e. is everything inside one bounding circle? The image certainly suggests
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Oriented projective geometry is symmetric with respect to point-line duality, so what difference does it make which ones you call the primitive objects? Or is this some kind of geometry that is not projective?
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for perpendicular lines. The negative inversive distance is a generalization which applies to oriented circles, and is the cosine of the angle between circles which intersect, or falls outside the interval
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I wonder if we can rewrite the "proof" part to be a bit clearer (whether by reorganizing, adding a picture, chopping some parts, ...?) I find my eyes glaze over unless I really try to pay attention to it.
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Meaning, is there a straightedge and compass construction of the fourth circle tangent to three given circles? Yes, but this is a different topic (and a much older one) than Descartes' theorem. It is the
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This is not what I claimed readers would misunderstand. My comment was regarding the phrasing in plain English, which is a bit confusing, not the mathematical sophistication of the theorem itself.
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important to the article, and is linked from the footnotes for any reader curious to read it. We could plausibly write a new prose statement of the theorem, but I doubt it would be any clearer. –
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various ways of defining it and their relations, etc.; I don't consider myself any kind of expert in this topic, and I don't know any particularly clear descriptions in the academic literature.
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is really just an extension of the problem of choosing a square root of a complex number. To rephrase my original problem more aptly, I haven't found a way to match a solution for k
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We are talking about a kind of dual metrical geometry, not just projective relationships. If you take lines to be primitives there is a whole set of transformations dual to
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and haven't appeared within the current or previous printed page.) But I'd probably recommend starting by fixing the crummy new default skin to improve rendering on screen.
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Gosset extended the theorem and poem: would be nice to be told that is was just a year later (1937) and you could consider citing the relevant lines of the poem somewhere.
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That's a bummer. We should perhaps at least track down some citations to the original sources then, so readers can save some effort on their path to disappointment. :-) –
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Is there a solution (straightedge and compass construction) using any right-angled triangle without first having to calculate the position of the Descartes circles?
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Arbitrary four-circle configurations: perhaps spend a word or two explaining what +1 and -1 mean as "relative orientation between the ith and jth oriented circles".
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Thanks for your quick answer. The question was, is there a construction with any right-angled triangle without first calculating the position of the 4th circle?--
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Is "curvature" the right term for ±1/r? I've seen explanations with curvature as always positive, 1/r, and "bend" used for the positive or negative curvature.
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there are three more solutions: each of the given three circles is itself mutually tangent to all three circles as well. So anyway, yes, existence is known. —
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It says there is no 3-dimensional analogue of the complex numbers that the higher-dimensional cases can use. What about quaternions in a 3-dimensional case?
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This binary distinction between footnotes that are just extended body text and footnotes that are purely citations to references is not supported by reality.
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they may find proofs of the given facts, solutions and equations. Not implying that the article needs to contain proofs, since Knowledge doesn't do that.
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There are some nifty solutions to Euclidean problems using Laguerre geometry. For instance, given 3 oriented circles there are only 2 solutions to the
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More generally, there is certainly a benefit to the reader in not distracting them with irrelevancies. A particularly bad example in that respect is
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Jacobolus has explained already the sign of the square root. I'm not sure there's much we can expand on this in the article itself without sources.
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The special case in which the three initial circles are tangent, as in the GeoGebra link, is easier than the general problem. See my 1999 web page
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involved it's not properly a type of "distance" per se. I think they also messed up the sign; the product of a circle with itself should be 1 here.
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They are certainly not osculating circles. But Soddy used the word "kissing" and for that reason I believe it should remain in the article. —
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2001). The right angle helps a tiny bit more, as two of the first three lines of the construction are already sides of the right triangle. —
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I think this article should be readable by people who don't care to understand signed areas. And they are completely unnecessary here. See
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few years out of college who only ever took one introductory linear algebra course), because the section then becomes much less concrete. –
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It's one thing to follow historical norms (however horrible), it's another thing to have page titles that are immediately self-evident.
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Testing the combination k_i = 1 1 1 gives 3 - 2*Sqrt(3) for the inner circle, which is negative. Is there supposed to be an initial +-?
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s are a bit distracting. Abbreviate as "eq." or take the word "equation" outside of the template so it is not in blue and boldface?
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To me the whole article felt unfocused; not something I would feel comfortable nominating for GA status, particularly because of
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A bit of a tangent here, while we're talking about oriented circles, I want to eventually write an article called something like
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considered mutually tangent to a pair of circles also becomes questionable, as tangency implies having common points. Thoughts?
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Knowledge talk:Citing sources § Splitting notes is an arbitrary Knowledge-made standard with unknown consequences for readers
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Thanks! Don't feel like you need to rush; I am likely to be a bit busy with real-world work and slow to respond myself. —
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45 I am wondering whether it is helpful to say when Caratheodory originally published this (he was long dead in 1954).
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Let me be more precise. Lagarias/Mallows/Wilks found that Descartes' theorem could be expressed as a matrix equation
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That's all good info; this article should include enough of it to say that "such a circle must exist" and link where
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44, 45 and similar could be separate footnotes instead of mixed with the citations, but that is definitely optional.
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We should add an image or two back to the relevant section of this article. Any advice on what it should include?
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article has an incompatible definition of inversive distance using logs. The one I used here is the same as our
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Solving the quadratic: is there any reason the term under the square root should be positive? What if it isn't?
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If we can find facsimiles of Descartes' original letter, Yamaji's work, or the 1824 Sangaku, those would fit. —
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detail notes" section. I think it would be a mistake to force a uniform format choice across the project (cf.
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I'm thinking of adding something after the Steiner chain section along the lines of the following. Thoughts? –
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is zero, then the other circles must be external (you can't have a straight line fitting inside a circle), so
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Re including more of the poem: I think it is still under copyright, so extended quotes would be problematic.
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A nice article! I will comment on the GA criteria and have a look at some more of the sources in a bit. —
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It's a lot easier than that if you ignore the formula and think about it more geometrically. Perform an
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Descartes' theorem can be proved from applying Heron's formula to 3 small triangles inside a larger one
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into there, and that does give the subject a bit more room to expand without getting out of scope here.
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Yes, of course. It was request from one of russian users and I did not recognize answer immeiately...
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No. The quadratic equation is the one labeled (1). It involves the radii of four circles, not three. —
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Thanks for the good solution! Maybe I will also draw your construction and enter it into the article
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16 could be used to clarify that Gosset was not the only one to generalise to higher dimensions.
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still holds. The most complicated is to treat every case separately. In case (1) the formula is
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There seems to be an implicit assertion that given three mutually tangent circles, there always
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15a doesn't really say that it is now called "Soddy's hexlet"; perhaps use 47 again as in 15b?
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is strictly negative, the first two circles must be small enough to fit inside the third, so
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Problem of Apollonius#Mutually tangent given circles: Soddy's circles and Descartes' theorem
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Pretty well every feature of point-based metrical geometry has an oriented-line-based dual.
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Maybe the following picture is better than my bad English. Is there a reference for this:
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leaves out consideration of intersecting circles, both of which seem to me like mistakes.
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Lead: The "bends" are signed inverse radii; not sure whether this detail should be here.
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summary of the theorem itself. I've started a discussion thread asking about this at
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etc. instead of splitting each side up into two parts and labeling them separately. –
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are differences of radii in cases (1–2), but to allow signed areas so that the sum
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is one of them. We have an article about it; we don't need to replicate it here.
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in geometry came from a too-difficult mathematics problem posed to a princess?
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isn't this worth attributing in text? Similar for some of the generalisations.
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Thank you again for your references! I was able to use it well in the article
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And here is a paper with a generalization to arbitrary circles in the plane:
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should be removed and only mutual tangency should be given as a condition.
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numbers. At least then we could tell them apart on surface inspection. —
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Article scope and focus are fine. No neutrality/stability issues detected.
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it exists). I did say I consider this "optional" above, and I mean it. —
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a fourth—but this isn't clearly spelled out. Given a formula such as
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is there any reason the term under the square root should be positive
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An external resource bears the title "Descartes' circle theorem".
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It is outer circe. Inner will be 3+2*Sqrt(3). You can also look at
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instead of just deleting that part; we should probably merge
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I think that mainly leaves the lead length query. —
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