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683:. I don't know whether puffery is an issue on Knowledge in general or not and this isn't my concern, and other encyclopedias aren't my concern either. What I'm currently interested in is an apparent attempt to vandalize an article so as to make the subject appear non-notable as a preempt to get the article deleted. The article's subject satisfies the GNG, and not because of heredity, but because of non-trivial coverage in multiple, reliable, third-party sources. - 325: 304: 258: 233: 205: 123: 95: 335: 427: 409: 64: 185: 497: 437: 133: 566:
The last AfD (and therefore consensus) disagrees with you. Your accusations of "obstruction" are without merit and your claims of "unimportant" are utterly subjective. Your placement of the notability template is inappropriate and disruptive given the multiple reliable sources. Clearly you have some
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I dunno... to me (an uninterested third party) you come off as the pompous one. You sure have a dismissive attitude, trying to get people's articles deleted. Then it appears after he got upset you continued to goad him with dismissive attitudes and insults, then weaseled out of it with a seemingly
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Not really, no. Subject's media coverage is peripheral, her notability is far from established (as it's not hereditary). A few votes won't change that the article goes against WP policies. Your comically officious reply made me smile, but that's all. And please stop posting warning templates on my
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Besides the fact that Diva has some fans here who have so far obstructed 2 justified deletion attempts, let us face it that she is yet to do anything notable with her life. Pretty much the same goes for her sister Moon. On the other hand, Dweezil and Ahmet are established artists who deserve their
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Upon final review, I find that you are clearly a fanboy of the subject, as you were the one who recreated the article after its deletion, and you seem to be the only one really interested in its survival (even filing an undue AN/I in the process along with premature templating). I could possibly
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Hey, questioning peoples motives is not appropriate. Whatever your own views on the scope of the Wiki please do not take it out on other editors. In this case consensus tends to be in favour of covering a wider variety of topics, even fluffy ones. I strongly suggest
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Moon Zappa's lead vocals is the reason why Zappa's most successful single "Valley Girl" was such a hit and I think at least that cultural impacting song is enough for her to have an article. Diva? Yeah she may not be notable...
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and either AFD the article (to judge current consensus on whether this article should be kept) or try to get wider community review on the scope of articles. Accusations of fanboyism, obstruction etc. are not in
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Stop violating policies and I'll stop templating you. Your assertions hold no water, except for when you disruptively blank out some of the references to support your own conclusions, as you've done here
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I won't revert this time, but here's the problem: please name another encyclopedia that would feature a fully-blown article for someone like Diva Zappa. This is an inherent WP problem: it's a form of
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empty apology. BAFB seems a bit of a hothead and needs to cool down, but your behavior is less than spectacular here and I don't think people here are as stupid as you think they are. Please
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If you still disagree, then send it to AfD for an objective discussion instead of blanking reliably-cited information in a ham-fisted attempt to give the appearance of non-compliance. -
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I will repeat: please stop acting officious and pompous, and I'll stop laughing. Also, obviously I have nothing personal against the subject. Thank you.
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I don't know whether puffery is an issue on Knowledge in general or not and this isn't my concern, and other encyclopedias aren't my concern either.
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reach a 2nd deletion with enough energy investment, but that would be ultimately useless as there are thousands of other fluffy
827:: now do I care about "losing face"? I dunno what is more amusing: your pervasive pompousness or your complete lack of humour. 214: 146: 109: 100: 847: 716:
If you have an issue with the functioning of Knowledge, please start an RfC or initiate a thread at the village pump. -
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personal issue and/or are simply trying to delete things you don't like. Fortunately policies like
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Burpelson, you don't cease to amuse me. My userpage is full of jokes and I'm a
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The problem with responding is that your premise is based, essentially, on
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under a legitimate guise, hidden under rigid policies; because notability
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twice now. And stop marking things as minor when they aren't minor. -
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talkpage, I've probably been here way longer than you. Thanks.
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from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially
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My apologies to Burpelson. It's already agreed, I won't AFD.
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I absolutely agree (though my apology was not empty).
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Every time you open your mouth you lose more face. -
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articles on here with thousands of assorted fanboys.
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