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financially supporting her. I finally found something in Page 99 of Emmy Noether: The Mother of Modern Algebra by Margaret B. W. Tent. I'm a little wary of using it a source, however, as it's aimed at young teenagers and the author creatively makes up conversations between historical figures. Does anyone know of a better source or would it be better to just remove the statement entirely?
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perspective on mathematics. With her habilitation thesis published in 1918, she solved central mathematical problems of general relativity. On June 4, 1919, Emmy Noether gave her habilitation lecture; she was the first woman to be qualified as a professor in Prussia.—Interdisciplinary conference on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of Emmy Noether's habilitation
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Noether’s work on factorization properties of ideals in abstract rigs, beginning in 1921, marks a turning point in the history of mathematics, because of its influence on shaping this view and in displaying its power. The spread of this view and its tremendous impact on mathematics at large over the
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I went through Rowe 2021, Rowe & Koreuber 2020, Dick 1981 to try and find a source for the phrase 'Her family paid for her room and board and supported her academic work' but couldn't find anything. There's plenty showcasing how she wasn't paid until 1923 but nothing specifically on her family
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This publication has had a profound influence on the development of modern algebra. I shall now summarize its content. In the introduction Emmy Noether states that in recent publications the structure theory of algebras and the representation theory of finite groups have been separated completely.
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Emmy Noether, one of the most important mathematicians in the world, shaped modern algebra with her “working and perception methods” and made a decisive contribution to the algebraization of mathematical disciplines. Noether opened up new mathematical ways of thinking by developing a structural
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The maxim by which Emmy Noether was guided throughout her work might be formulated as follows: "Any relationships between numbers, functions and operations only become transparent, generally applicable, and fully productive after they have been isolated from their particular objects and been
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She, on the other hand, aims at a purely arithmetical foundation, in which the structure theory and the representation theory of groups and algebras appear as a unified whole, namely as a theory of modules and ideals in rings satisfying finiteness conditions.—van der Waerden
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Although the results of Noether's first epoch were impressive and useful, her fame among mathematicians rests more on the groundbreaking work she did in her second and third epochs, as noted by Hermann Weyl and B.L. van der Waerden in their obituaries of
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with a footnote undermining the quotation. If the quotation is not reliable it should not be used; if it is reliable it should not be qualified in a footnote. The exchange can be summarized rather than quoted if that is all the references support.
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20th century came through the mediation of a famous textbook, Moderne Algebra, published in 1930 by Bartel L. van der Waerden under the decisive influence of Noether’s lectures in Göttingen (as well as of Emil Artin’s courses in Hamburg)—
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The Hilbert quotation in its current form is only used by Kimberling's source. The rest quote a slightly different statement and/or say that the bathhouse quote (which was first told by Weyl in his memorial address) hasn't been
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It could be changed to something like: "Hilbert, who believed Noether's qualifications was the only important issue and that the sex of the candidate was irrelevant, objected with indignation and scolded those protesting her
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In her next article, 'On the theory of invariants of forms of n variables' , which had been announced the year before its publication (Noether ), she extended the arguments of her thesis to the case of forms in
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I'm not sure it's any more likely to get the right attention at FAR, but yes, this needs a mathematician to look at. It would be a shame if this was delisted but I still can't commit to any help, regrettably. —
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Perhaps with "His objection is often said to have included the remark "After all, we are a university, not a bathhouse.", though the utterance of this statement has not been authenticated." in a footnote.
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Ernst Fischer at Erlangen influenced her away from Gordan's constructivist style, dominated by forms and formulas, toward Hilbert's more axiomatic and abstract style, characterized by existence proofs.
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We have a couple of math-specialist editors that watch FAR. Would you be interested in nominating this article there? That way you can better explain your concerns with this article.
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I'm not going to be able to tackle this article myself any time soon, but I wonder if what it needs is a once-over by someone who is both a mathematician and a Wikipedian. —
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leaves room for many claims to be sourced generally but not inline.It seems to me that there are four types of statements not followed by a small blue superscript:
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If the article has been moved from its initial review period to the Featured Article Removal Candidate (FARC) section, you may support or contest its removal.
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I'm still hopeful to find a secondary source mention, but that's a good backup. Wouldn't add them myself, since the German is a bit outside my capabilities.
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Thank you for working on the article. I don't have a book citation for what you're looking for but the paper for this work can be found in the article
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This phase marks the beginning of her engagement with abstract algebra, the field of mathematics to which she would make groundbreaking contributions.
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There is a huge "External links" section. Is anyone interested in going through this, using the useful sources and deleting what is not necessary?
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Following up with this: Do you think this still needs a mathematician-inclined editor to take a look? Do you think this should go to FAR?
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There are many uncited sections throughout the article, and the orange banner above "Contributions to mathematics and physics".
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Many sources listed in "Additional sources" are not used as inline citations in the article. Should they be reviewed and used?
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was called "the most significant creative mathematical genius thus far produced since the higher education of women began" by
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Content that is mathematical/technical, where different citation styles are used to the rest of Knowledge (XXG), such as:
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My methods are working methods and perception methods and therefore penetrated anonymously everywhere. (Noether, 1931)
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Content that (while true) is not sourced and probably needs rewriting, and possibly also an inline citation:
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I'd be content with removing that. We can always restore it if a source turns up that is less marginal.
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formu1ated as universally valid concepts."—van der Waerden, Bartel L. (Emmy Noether obituary)
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Content clearly found in most biographies of Noether, including many listed sources:
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I tried a rewrite along those lines. It's too famous a quip to be omitted entirely.
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The Noether Theorems: Invariance and Conservation Laws in the Twentieth Century
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In 1919 the University of Göttingen allowed Noether to proceed with her
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Chapter Twenty-One: The Noether School and the Rise of Modern Algebra
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The external links for the 1910 announcement of the paper is this
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Leaving notes here as they come up. Haven't found a citation for
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No luck yet on the "This phase marks the beginning ..." tag in
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