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That has already been done for most countries. For the infoboxes on East
Germany and West Germany in wiki-en those fields are missing, presumably because the data needed to populate them are not so accessible. But if you do have relatively easy access to an appropriate source, how about it?
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East Berlin was the capital, period. The NATO trolls maintaining this article added that garbage footnote because
Amerikkka and its two older brothers England and France (the original NATO trolls) all refused to recognize GDR's capital. Crybabies.
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