Talk:Erica Garner - Knowledge (XXG)

1785:: Erica Garner has no serious notability outside of being her father's daughter, but our guidelines don't differentiate between organic coverage and coverage that results from attachment to a serious event. I think it's wonderful that she was able to do good works as a result of her father's tragic death, but I seriously question whether those good works will be remembered in a year (i.e., whether they will have the permanence to go beyond recentism). But, as the notability guidelines are presently understood and applied, Erica Garner qualifies for a freestanding article, even if it's unlikely that a length greater than a stub would be legitimate in light of 775: 750: 3407:

about the chokehold when filing a report on the incident, Police Commissioner Bill Bratton still had the brass to say earlier this year that "he would not support a law to make chokeholds illegal, insisting that a departmental prohibition is enough." He also said, "I think there are more than sufficient protocols in place to address a problem." In context, that's sufficiently absurd to cast a shadow over the man's honor. It's hard to believe it won't come up when New York City is sued for negligence.

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Without knowing the copyright holder, its hosting on a commercial site, and the fact that the picture itself is not the subject of the article still makes the db-f7 tag valid. In addition, the rallies were widely attended and photographed. It seems premature to presume a free version does not exist

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To be clear, I absolutely do not consider you to be an uninvolved closer for this discussion. Given your numerous comments on this page, you clearly have a close interest of some kind and are refraining from !voting for the purpose of being able to close the discussion in the manner you see fit. This

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If the Opposes still have more than 75% at that time, I wouldn't see the need for an uninvolved closer. In theory, it's not about about numbers; in practice, uninvolved closes never go against numbers like that, no matter what the arguments. Unless there is objection, I would be happy to do the close

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That follows even less! She is never mentioned outside the incident involving her father. Robert Kennedy was a senator. And, although he started with being known as JFK's brother he became known on his own. Articles and books written about him do not say, "RFK, known as the senator brother of JFK".

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She is never mentioned outside the incident involving her father. How is that notability beyond the event? She didn't have her own article until she died which also highlighted the similarities to her father wrt heart disease and asthma. Her father doesn't even have an article per BLP1E. A lot of

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If you read what I wrote I think you'll find that I am not advocating a 30-day discussion period. You appear to have completely ignored my second sentence above, which I believe has strong community support. I'm prepared to compromise away 70% of the default duration, and your position appears to be

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situation. For comparison, RMs almost always remain open for at least 7 days, and there is less at stake there. This needs to stay open, and the tag needs to be restored per standard process. (I have not taken a position as to this merge, my interest here is in process integrity. It always fails the

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They kneejerk reaction was the creation of the article after her fatal heart attack. Nothing she had done prior to dying spurred an article to cover any "notable" activity. There are many activists that were created and motivated by the death of Eric Garner. She is one of thousands covered in our

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The very next sentence after the one you quoted states "There is no required 30-day discussion period. If a consensus in favor of the merger is formed in less than 30 days, then anyone may perform the merger whenever they want." I'm not sure I've ever seen Wikipedians try so hard to keep flogging a

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NOTINHERITED was meant to stop siblings, parents and children of notable people from getting an article just for being a relative, not for someone launching her own career based of her father's death. An independent career may have been inspired by the death but she's got her own coverage as proven

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It hasn't closed because no one has gotten around to closing it. There is overwhelming opposition to the merge and not much interest in continuing the discussion. The insistence on marking your territory on the biography of someone who has recently died, when there is no possible road to consensus

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It's a poor look when people looking for information on a person who has recently died from the front page instead get an argument between Knowledge (XXG) editors over whether they're significant enough for an article. This is all the more so when the proposal is dying in the arse as badly as this

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strongly implies that the default duration is 30 days. With standard processes such as this, the question is not "Why should we leave it open?" but "Why should we close it before the default duration?"; i.e., we err on the side of more participation. The argument that we need to get rid of the tag

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I call it editorial judgment, which we do routinely. Do you want to conduct a comprehensive survey of RS and compare how many call it illegal to how many do not? We can't say that based on a couple of cherry-picked sources that don't cite a specific statute. As I said below, why are we discussing

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Please don't suggest that your viewpoint is obvious, so much so that anybody holding a different viewpoint simply needs to "use some sense". One can reasonably be philosophically opposed to putting lipstick on this pig we call Knowledge (XXG) editing. Further, the proposal is all of 16 hours old,

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Exactly. It's not that there's no consensus either way; it's that there's a consensus for 'oppose'. For a 'merge' consensus to develop, there would have to be about twenty more merge !votes with no more oppose !votes. I think that qualifies as SNOW, and therefore this discussion should be closed.

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merge. Although her father's death served as the catalyst for her activism and this is invariably pointed out, her connection to his death does not mean that this is a BLP1E. There's sufficient secondary, independent, reliable coverage outside the obituaries to establish notability. Since she was

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Even with the NYPD's history of killing people with chokeholds that violate policy, hundreds of non-lethal violations of that policy every year, indisputable video evidence of multiple officers blithely ignoring the fact that a colleague was violating that policy, and their subsequent dishonesty

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because they are perceived as derogatory. In this case, the tag is suggesting that this person's life did not matter; that they were a person of no account; merely their father's daughter. This implication seems likely to give offense to the relations and acquaintances of the subject and so it

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It seems to me that she was known for more than her father's death. She appeared in an ad for Bernie and have set up a foundation. Of course, that alone isn't enough to establish notability, but as it's an article featured on the Main Page, I guess more quality edits will come. Since I'm not too

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So here we have a quote by the police commissioner stating that there is currently no law against chokeholds. The Atlantic piece takes an anti-police stance on the issue. That being the case, if there were a law, why wouldn't The Atlantic point out the glaring inaccuracy in Bratton's statement?

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Just pointing out that the ardent opposition to closure from one or two editors has now successfully blown out the margin against this proposal from 72-28% to 83-17%. At what point do you people want to give up the ghost? This has been quite an example of Wikipedians behaving badly in regard to

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template at the head of this talk page which contains a link "free images" to facilitate such a search. I repeated this just now and there is still nothing relevant (there is one image but it doesn't show the subject and so seems to be a false positive). It remains my position that we should

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I had no intention of diminishing Robby's achievements. I apologize if what I wrote offended you, but what I meant was - people outside of the U.S. are far more likely to recognize the name of an assassinated U.S. president than that of his brother, of whom they probably heard nothing (or very

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This is nonsense. A proposal that is losing 72-28%, having already received significant interest, is toast. Just because people on the losing side, as they always do, hope in vain that thirty editors who agree with them might suddenly fall out of the sky, doesn't make that actually a rational

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are unwarranted. The consensus for an early close is, at this point in time, and for whatever reasons, also sufficiently broad. Protracted discussion here would, in the next month or so, not likely lead to a different result (i.e. different from keeping this as a stand-alone article), so such

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The "instant" merge nomination came after the "instant" article creation memorializing her death. It wasn't nominated sooner because it didn't exist sooner. The real question is why was it created to memorialize her death rather than an ongoing addition to her "notable" contribution.

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curse editors are put under but she undeniably is notable as the daughter of her father who was tragically killed. She isn't known as "Erica Garner, the activist", she is "Erica Garner, the daughter of police brutality victim, Eric Garner", and that is reflected in the news reports.

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The article was created before the announcement of her death. This was in response to the massive news coverage of her illness. It was also easy to find a substantial source for the article which pre-dated both the illness and death. That's fundamental notability per

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This is manifestly not true. There are (at least) hundreds of articles covering her broader civil rights activism. An article subject having a relation to another article subject does not create a presumption that they have not themselves received significant coverage.

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In my view, since this article is not about Eric Garner's death, I don't see any reason to address the legality/illegality of the chokehold here. Just mention the chokehold (which nobody disputes), link to the other article for more information, and leave it at that.

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ASAP out of respect for Garner appears to be a personal viewpoint unsupported by guideline or other community consensus. There is no other argument for an early close that I can see; it costs nothing to leave a discussion open as nobody is forced to participate in it.

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Use some sense. The proposal is being snowball-defeated - what is the point of marking your territory so that anyone looking for information on a recently deceased (and, by consensus, notable) person has to first be shown your opinions about their significance?

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Exactly. Since the last comment on this move to close, six more editors have chimed in, with not a single one of them supporting the merge. Even if there had been before, there is now absolutely no chance for a 'merge' consensus to emerge. It's time to move on.

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The tag is not information. We can have a open discussion without the tag and then take as long as we like about it. The tag needs to go because it is derogatory. We already have enough editors here to establish a clear consensus and so its job is done.

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This is first and foremost an encyclopedia. We're here to provide information, not tribute. Within reason, respect for the recently deceased should never be a factor in the application or haste of process, except where BLP is concerned. Please be patient.

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Thanks for the explanation as this was not explained clearly. I have added another image – a still taken from the Bernie Sanders campaign video, "Erica". This is a bit fuzzier but seems more historic, given its usage, and so serves the reader better.

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It does not take a genius to figure out that a 20-to-5 (including the original nom) result against a merge is a clear consensus. By the way, what a way to be welcoming to new editors! Must be nice to sling your 13 years here around to discourage others.

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Tweets were subsequently posted from Garner's official Twitter account blasted Mayor de Blasio demanding that he "explain how she died with no justice." and requested that "out of respect to Erica please do not request comment if the journalist is not

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I don't dispute that some number of sources use "unlawful" or "illegal". It took me about 30 seconds to find two of them. It would be so much simpler if we could always just stop there, but sometimes we need to take a closer look. For example, take

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It does not need to be. She and her life are not "completely derivative of ... her father". She had an independent existence and achieved notability on her own merits. And we have sufficient space for this article. There's no good reason to merge.

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Both the "subsequently posted", coming after the article referred to her death, and the "from her official Twitter", as opposed to "from her", make it pretty obvious to the reader that she has not mastered the art of tweeting from the dead.

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yes the subject is notable because of her involvement of the incident and aftermath of her father's death, but most of the coverage distinguishes the two and as the above !votes suggest the subject is independently notable in her own right.

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The voluminous and sustained coverage of her life and work you can see in, e.g., a Google News search for the period prior to her recent hospitalization and death (in addition to the coverage since) indicate she does have the notability

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This just betrays an ignorance of her work: it's a kneejerk reaction to reading that she was an activist with the father she had. She was an outspoken civil rights activist on a range of issues very well-covered in reliable sources.

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Garner had established a well respected career in her very short activism life following her father's death. Very well known and the article itself is in very good shape alone to depict her importance. RIP to Ms. Garner indeed.

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The date of creation is irrelevant to her notability. There are many notable people who don't have articles and then, on their death, their published obituaries provide sufficient reliable sources for an article to be created.

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making it a bit premature to call it failed, let alone a snow fail with 5 Merge !votes. But one way to help prevent the !voting from swinging the other way is to reduce the visibility of the discussion by removing the tag. ―

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I wasn't aware that articles shouldn't contain tags when linked from the main page, and I don't know why we would want to hide routine editing processes from the general public. Where is the guideline to that effect?

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I've removed the orange tag for non-notable as there are plenty of secondary sources cited in this article on Garner's impact on social justice and civil rights movements. Please discuss here any concerns.

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What other notability has she achieved outside speaking out about her fathers death? Certainly there is nothing notable prior to his death. Her death, of heart disease and asthma, is even related to her

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2–1, some consensus—while there are at least 5 others involved in the slow burn edit war. If more people won't participate on the talk page, this may need DRN or RfC. Sad we can't do it the easier way.

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It was from her actual account as confirmed in abundant reliable sources. We do not believe anonymous claims on talk pages over reliable sources, especially when there is no dispute in said sources.

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Someone here has suggested it is fake. Knowledge (XXG) is not a news agency, we do not need up-to-the-hour reporting. Since there is a question about it I prefer to err on the side of caution, you

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To be clearer than before, I do not consider myself to be an uninvolved closer, either, but close procedures do not require an uninvolved closer in all cases. If you want to wait for a closer from

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That said, I would not oppose a close on 8 January, which I think is a reasonable minimum amount of time for comment given this level of participation. That would include one non-holiday weekend.

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Erica Garner is not known for her relationship to her father. Her father is not notable. However, both are known for Eric Garners's death and its aftermath. Neither have notability beyond the

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Reporters can be mistaken or use words carelessly. Until somebody produces RS that says, yes, there is a law and here it is, I oppose "unlawful" and "illegal" in reference to the chokehold. ―

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I agree with Drover's Wife. I don't see that this statement could be confused as coming from Erica. It's also not clear what neutrality is being violated in its current presentation.

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We don't know why they posted that either. How about, white reporters "don't get it" and ask stupid, insulting questions and the family does not want to deal with stupid right now?

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I think the surname needs to be consistent throughout. One source refers to Erica as "Garner-Snipes" but all the others refer to her as "Garner". Any thoughts on which one to use?

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I was confused at first when you said "commercial site". However, I figured that you were referring to the whole video. Therefore, I reverted back to the rally screenshot for now.

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was removed. Well, the removal of the image was attempted, but then I found out it was de-PRODded. If you wish to pursue, then please feel free to take the image to FFD. Thanks.

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your best bet is to wait a few months after this brief wave of news disappears and nominate for deletion. I realize it probably sucks to be patient when you are in the right but

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I have seen several reliable sources refer to Erica Garner primarily as an activist. That her father's death was a catalyst for her activism does not negate three years of work.

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She is known for her activism, which was sparked by her father's death, yes, but that work exists and has been reported on independently of his death. Should not be merged.

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should not be maintained any longer than is necessary. Common decency, as specified by the policy, now requires that the tag be removed. Mandruss should please revert.

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A tweet was posted from Garner's official Twitter account, requesting that "out of respect to Erica please do not request comment if the journalist is not Black".

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The administrator of the account was commenting on her death, so it rather obviously follows that Garner herself was not tweeting from beyond the grave.

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qualify under the provisions of IAR Snow-close even tangentially and I would urge the discussion to be continued and more editors to chime in. Regards:)

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protracted discussion can, at this point in time, be qualified as a timesink of editor effort. In the mean while the meta-discussion related to this at

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other things). To say "worldwide" Robby is primarily remembered as John's brother is like saying George Bush is primarily remembered as Bush Sr.'s son.

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No significant difference between thousands of other protesters/activists of Eric Garner's death. Creation on the day of her death appears to violate

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Wow Davey, you have been on wikipedia for four months and already you can tell when something has "absolutely no chance" of happening. Must be nice.

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one of no compromise at all, based solely on your personal agenda that has no community support. Sorry, but your position is exceedingly weak here. ―

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has reverted...again...Marek you are not respecting the consensus of the talk page. You've got text in there that is not supported by the source.

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How many tweets were made at that account over the years? And why is this one to be highlighted? Because it tickled the newspeople, that's why?

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Agreed. I've removed the description of it as "improper" which would imply the technique was poor. The cited source does not clarify this.

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dated 4 December 2014. The piece is a fairly detailed analysis of the whole NYPD chokehold issue. It includes the following paragraph:

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The tag should not be placed there again. Especially not in this cade were it is obvious that there will be no consensus for merge.

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There is a broad consensus that, at this point in time, a merge or the suggestion that the subject of this article would not pass

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which states "As the subject is deceased, no free equivalent could reasonably be obtained or created to replace this media...".

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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by a million miles. I think the instant merge nomination at someone reading about who her father was, in ignorance of who

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can be continued. Do not return here about that topic before that discussion is regularly closed or archived (it would be

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Your arguments have no foundation in policy or guideline. We can reach a local consensus to override p&g per

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dead horse, particularly when past attempts to do so have only strengthened the consensus against the proposal.

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account, requesting that "out of respect to Erica please do not request comment if the journalist is not Black"

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There is no need for such action; it would just push content around to no purpose. If it works, don't fix it.

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Suggest those arguing merge on the basis that Erica Garner is known for her relationship to her father review

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doesn't say "unlawful" or "illegal", why is this even in dispute? For Pete's sake, people, use some sense. ―

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is newly appointed. If Mandruss wants to dispute this further then I suggest that they raise the matter at

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She's an indisputably notable civil rights activist going far beyond issues relating to her father. Passes

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/erica-garner-activist-daughter-eric-garner-dies-27-after-coma-n832626

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There is no snowball chance that this will reach a consensus for Merge. That is why it should be closed.

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The account has been active for 18 months, a tweet from Garner from 2016 is the source of her birthday.

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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support for that outcome, is gross and pointlessly disrespectful to readers interested in the subject.

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movement, not just for being the daughter of Eric Garner. NOTINHERITED does not apply in this case. --

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piece created when she died and all her notability derives from that single event we already cover. --

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The very next sentence after the one you quoted states "There is no required 30-day discussion period.

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Back to the screenshot itself, may you replace the db-f7 tag with the FFD procedure instead? Thanks.

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reason, just not because an anon IP claimed her official, verified Twitter account was illegitimate.

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to such an early close. If you can find an uninvolved editor to close it anyway, more power to you. ―

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of her account and not Garner herself. I think it should be worded as such or removed altogether. —

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by the NYT obit (usually the gold standard of notability), as such she passe GNG pretty obviously.

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do you refer "a commercial site" to CNN or YouTube or the Bernie 2016, which was already over?

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and it is why there is also no biographical article for Eric Garner. This article is simply a

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Multiple newspapers reported it, the account has a blue checkmark. Source for it being fake?

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this at this article anyway? Don't you think the two articles should agree on this point? ―

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is a discussion involving nearly thirty people, and you're acting like you run the show.

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Agree, she is known as the daughter of Eric Garner. All news reports start with that.

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Also, George Bush, Sr. is usually remembered only as GWB's father. Off-topic, again.

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do not, being happy with the sources. I also do not intend to edit war about this.

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editors pushing for an early close are those whose position is currently leading.) ―

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All articles on her death say that she was the "activist daughter of Eric". See

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rather than a reflection of independent notability that didn't exist prior. --

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people are activists but her coverage as an activist only relates to the BLP1E

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Let's close this as there is obviously not going to be a consensus for Merge.

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As BabbaQ has recommended, let's close this discussion as "no consensus".

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She has received sufficient coverage in reliable sources to pass GNG.

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and that's a strong one. Such tags are commonly complained about at

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A news item involving Erica Garner was featured on Knowledge (XXG)'s

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notable independent of her father's death there's no need to merge.

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I see no reason for merge in this case. She is notable on her own.--

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Sheesh, I lost track of which article I was in. Considering that

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the ITN process has reviewed the article and found it acceptable

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I think the video was released with non-commercial intention

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She supported her love for family and Justice for equality.

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A fact from this article was featured on Knowledge (XXG)'s

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until we can determine if it really came from the family.

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and has not received significant coverage outside of her

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If that's obvious, why is the proposal still open? Per

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