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undermines the credibility of condemnation of extraordinary rendition, thereby giving aid and comfort to the perpetrators of this heinous practice. Even if a person is detained lawfully, they can still be subject to unlawful transfer afterward. We must not condone unlawful transfer in such cases by describing the phrase "extraordinary rendition" as being applicable only in cases of kidnapping. --
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From a sane view, the intro to this article reads like Knowledge is now an organ to consolidate US propaganda terms, which seem to be merely used to hide the fact that what really is meant is abduction/kidnapping. I suggest to make it clear at the very beginning of the article that “Extraordinary
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to a jurisdiction where the transferor knows or should know that the victim will be subject to torture or other unlawful treatment. Conflating transfer with seizure, simply to be able to apply a more familiar term with greater emotional impact, undermines the credibility of Knowledge. It also
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I think it may be time to split this article because of confusion between extraordinary rendition and other cases of international state-sponsored abductions. Oxford Bibliographies defines extraordinary rendition as "forcible abduction in another jurisdiction and transfer to a
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Kidnapping is unlawful seizure (or "capturing and carrying away") of a person, especially for the purpose of extracting ransom. Rendition is the involuntary transfer of a person from one jurisdiction to another, under color of law. Extraordinary rendition is the
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There doesn't seem to be an established name for the more general practice so I think splitting off content that's not related to the US program into a separate article with a descriptive title, such as
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Knowledge neither condones nor does not condone the subjects of its articles; that is not the purpose of what we do here, nor is this a place to fight battles against the practice.
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the state-sponsored "forcible abduction in another jurisdiction and transfer to a third state". The administration of President George W. Bush
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The usage of the term “rendition” for “abduction” in this article can only be explained with US-propaganda.
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rendition” is merely an euphemism as used in the USA for means of their propaganda.
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would be best. If no one objects I will carry out the split. (
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The Condoleezza Rice quote should also be shown to be a lie
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