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162: 592:, due to severe genetic problems, which means any new breed based on it, like Foldex is, will also not be permitted (absent proof that the genetic issues have been bred out, which is probably impossible in this case, because it is the gene that causes the ear-cartilage folding that also causes the skeletal problems at issue). The SF has also been legally banned in various jurisdictions for animal-welfare reasons. CFA and TICA both still accept SF, as does 22: 74: 53: 607:
of breeding experiments that people have put a name to. In this particular case, the experimental breed may be doomed due to heritable medical problems gotten from the Scottish Fold. That said, the issues could in and of themselves generate enough (controversy-laden) coverage to confer notability, as
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is not a reliable source, it's just a personal blog of an amateur cat breeder and feral-cat tamer who doesn't have any particular qualifications, an "archive of cat-related articles, information and clip-art" that is a mixture of primary-source personal opinion and weak tertiary-source summarization
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Does the article itself even meet notability? No recognition from a major registry and very little citations on the article with most being about the Scottish Fold. Messybeast just includes in a list and the other sites are just generic cat websites that have articles on as many breeds and
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I think it should be merged. Nothing noteworthy about the breed, if it generated controversy like the Ojos Azules as you mentioned it could merit an article but there isn't even a controversy about the breed - simply a lack of attention/recognition due to the Scottish Fold ban.
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be additional sourcing available for this. It bears looking into. We need to beware of generic "internet cat sites" that simply cannibalize press-release-style material from breeders, and borrow (usually uncredited) from Knowledge itself
572:; zero of them recognize a Foldex breed, even as provisional/experimental. I've checked. FIFe has nothing; same with CFA. TICA has been aware of Foldex since at least 2015 as a "breed" consisting of two individual cats 575:. The newest material they have that mentions it dates to 2021 and they have an internal code for it, but it is not among the "Championship Breeds" or "breeds accepted by the Board for Registration only" 552:, which recognizes and shows this breed along with 53 others, is a notable organization and event sponsor, with "its pedigrees and registrations accepted by major global associations such as the 367:, which recognizes and shows this breed along with 53 others, is a notable organization and event sponsor, with "its pedigrees and registrations accepted by major global associations such as the 293:
Messybeast just includes in a list and the other sites are just generic cat websites that have articles on as many breeds and unrecognised breeds as possible for engagement/advertising revenue.
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as an offshoot/crossbreed, but we need to avoid doing a duplicate section there. (I just cleaned up something like this the other day, where a bunch of experimental Munchkin crossbreeds had
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If it isn't a recognized breed, then I'd argue for it to be merged or deleted. Btw, Traumnovelle, I've noticed your recent work and cat breeds, and thank you for it. Happy editing,
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Nascent breeds recognized by nothing but a single national-level or smaller organization (rarely independent of the breeders that comprise it) generally get merged to
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Does the article itself even meet notability? No recognition from a major registry and very little citations on the article with most being about the Scottish Fold.
223: 539:, resolved by merging material to the latter and reducing the material in the former to a short list with sectional links to the material in the latter.) 561: 376: 722: 603:, but we'll have to see whether any further independent sourcing can be found. Most attempts to establish new breeds (of anything) fail, and 140: 130: 94: 102: 576: 207:
Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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A merge discussion was started which renders this RM invalid. There's no action to be taken, from what I can see.
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That's a bit of an overstatement or a misunderstanding. CFA, TICA, and FIFe accept CCA registrations in breeds
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A merge discussion is a separate kind of discussion (opened below). This one is just about the title.
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The RM above raised questions of whether this should remain a stand-alone article, or merge.
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but only under stringent breeding control and repeat medical examination.
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If merged, it would be just as a summary expansion of the section at
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unrecognised breeds as possible for engagement/advertising revenue.
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On 28 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
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This project provides a central approach to 609: 447:A summary of the conclusions reached follows. 8: 19: 197:The following is a closed discussion of a 47: 570:that those other organizations recognize 49: 547: 521:List of experimental cat breeds#Foldex 516:of other material (reliable and not). 492: 7: 438:The following discussion is closed. 216:The result of the move request was: 79:This article is within the scope of 38:It is of interest to the following 608:was the case with the now-extinct 14: 558:The International Cat Association 373:The International Cat Association 700:The discussion above is closed. 562:FĂ©dĂ©ration Internationale FĂ©line 421:The discussion above is closed. 377:FĂ©dĂ©ration Internationale FĂ©line 160: 72: 51: 20: 601:List of experimental cat breeds 537:List of experimental cat breeds 135:This article has been rated as 251:– Unnecessary disambiguation. 224:closed by non-admin page mover 190:Requested move 28 January 2024 1: 617: 395: 322: 267:03:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC) 252: 237:21:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC) 723:Mid-importance Cats articles 666:05:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC) 649:03:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC) 633:02:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC) 411:02:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC) 389:12:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC) 358:Neutral per discussion below 338:02:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC) 317:21:48, 28 January 2024 (UTC) 303:06:36, 28 January 2024 (UTC) 284:12:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC) 394:Comments in section below. 744: 695:16:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC) 472:13:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC) 141:project's importance scale 115:Knowledge:WikiProject Cats 728:WikiProject Cats articles 718:Start-Class Cats articles 554:Cat Fanciers' Association 369:Cat Fanciers' Association 134: 118:Template:WikiProject Cats 67: 46: 702:Please do not modify it. 550:Canadian Cat Association 441:Please do not modify it. 423:Please do not modify it. 365:Canadian Cat Association 204:Please do not modify it. 105:standards, or visit the 616:. 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