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such an issue with naming the article appropriately, a new article for FF5 should be created. If you want to do this, I would be satisfied. Otherwise, it seems you're losing the discussion here. I will move the article again in a few days unless any other users express concern here on the talk page about using the current group name as the article title.
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with Walter. Please focus strictly on content from here on out and avoid any continued personal commentary. This is a matter of objectively demonstrating what name the current sources are using and can most certainly be resolved without the involvement of sockpuppets, meatpuppets, or SPAs of any kind.
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Station1, you bring up a great point that I had mentioned to Walter earlier, although he didn't seem interested, about creating a new page for FF5. It certainly is an option that I would be willing to consider, although in the past when the group has changed their name, the same page was used and the
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The group has re-named and no longer goes by Family Force 5. There is no reason that the group's old name should be displayed as the title of the page, as it is misleading. Family Force 5 can and will re-direct to the FF5 page. The group changed their social media, website, merchandise, etc. No place
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Walter, you drove my point home. The statement "most commonly used", as your favorite page states is undoubtedly "FF5". In fact, it's the ONLY name used. The most commonly used name to describe the duo is certainly not a name from the group's past. Thanks for supporting my point. It would seem that
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That is an idea as well. The thing is, even for a good part of the time that their official name was "Family Force 5", most fans were already referring to them as FF5, as it was their logo, and easier to say. They've since officially changed the name and said it was just a natural move, as it was
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I am not opposed to FF5 (band) as the title. I think that's a great idea, Station1! And as I've mentioned before, Family Force 5 can redirect to the FF5 (band) page, just as "The
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Compadre under the name FF5. It can be found on Spotify, iTunes, Amazon, etc. A video for the lead single, Fire On The Highway is said to be in the works. They've toured with the name FF5 for years. I have shirts from more than 5 years ago that say FF5 on
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I have no preference. They are a duo not a full band, but band is a more common term. How have they been performing lately? Do they have a full band as back-up or are they using click-tracks and a lot of MIDI for the music? That would help inform a new disambiguator.
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I'm wanting to update their photo to reflect the band's new line-up, and have a photo (provided by the band's official photographer) that I have permission to use for this purpose. What do I have to do to ensure that the change doesn't get reversed?
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