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xenarthrans...", you may need to indicate that this was an early idea that has since changed. Otherwise, it seems to get stuck in my head, but then you talk about multituberculates, which from my understanding are possibly somewhere between Theria and Monotremata (and not closely related to xenarthrans), and I start to get confused. Sorry if I'm making this difficult.
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I've added some clarification on multituberculates and xenarthrans. Multituberculates I think are either sister to therians or to monotremes plus therians (we're not sure which of the two it is). Xenarthrans, of course, are placentals, although the discovery of sudamericids led some to resurrect the
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Is there a rough cladogram for some of this? I guess I'm having a hard time following some of this since you're telling the story of how they thought everything was related, and inevitably it changes. Where you say "Bonaparte considered the gondwanatheres to be probably most closely related to the
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Ultimately, this and the point above it are complicated because you almost need a general "evolution" article for all the groups involved. (Personally, I'm finding such specialty topic articles to be helpful for bringing information about multiple species together into a single article on a common
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when it was discovered in 1986; first proposed for all gondwanatheres in 1990; canonical by 1993; controversial in 1999; revitalized in 2009; now probably the leading contender); and that we have no idea what on Earth they are (canonical since 1999). Within those three strands, there are of course
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Part of it is placing them in context, since sudamericids are (probably) feruglios' closest relatives and therefore comparisons between the two are significant. Moreover, the history of sudamericids and ferugliotheriids has been intertwined so much that it's hard to cover the one comprehensively
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Maybe it's just me, but sudamericids seem to get a lot of mention in this article, which felt a little off because they're not in the family. I don't know... given their close/uncertain relations, maybe it's appropriate. I just thought I'd share my concern in case someone else brings it up.
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I prefer to keep description out of "Taxonomy". It's described in a single sentence there, though; perhaps I should add more (the article on the tooth itself has more discussion) but I'm also hesitant to write too much about this very tenuous record of a ferugliotheriid.
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thread.) I'm not saying that you have to do this. As more information is discovered and published, maybe someday such an article will be merited. For now, I'll let this pass and see what other reviewers think when you take this to FAC. –
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Same as what I said above about an evolution article. Again, I'm not saying we need such an article right now, and nor will I hold this article back. Maybe other reviewers at FAC will have some informative thoughts on the matter.
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This is just an opinion, but the red-linked "wear" should probably be spelled out in the text as "tooth wear" rather than just linked to it. It's a real shame that it's a red-link... I may need it soon when I write about
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Otherwise, it looks really good. The article meets GAN requirements, as far as I can see, but since you may take this on to FAC, I'll hold off promoting until we've worked out the details above. Great job!
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A second read through and I think you're right. I'm just used to looking for the target of the pronouns within the same sentence, particularly when dealing with prepositions and (in)direct objects. –
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It's between the incisor and premolar, so in front of the premolar. In re-reading the sentence, I don't think it's ambiguous, but I suppose we could substitute "the premolar" for "it".
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was discovered in 1984, argued against in 1990, disproven by 1993; no one believes this any more); that they are multituberculates or something close to them (proposed for
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minor differences, such as exactly what multis they are related to, and there have been some alternative proposals that gained little traction.
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without also discussing the other. However, perhaps there are specific places where I have gone overboard with sudamericid material.
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I will be taking on this review. The article looks good at a glance, but I'll have specific comments shortly. –
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This certainly will go to FAC. Thanks for the review.
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