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towards the pre-hispanic datus as the base of Filipino identity while Nick Joaquin and Jose Guerrero towards the Creole insurgencies. There seems to be a common denominator between the two schools of thought though and that is the Philippine nation was established in 1896 through that revolution. Agoncillo calls it the Revolt of the Masses (Indios) while Joaquin/Guerrero calls it the Revolt of the Ilustrados (Creoles). Historians from both schools of thought do not trace Filipino nationalism to the pre-hispanic civilizations.
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I was apparently unclear. I take the assertion, "Filipino Nationalism is an upsurge of patriotic sentiments and nationalistic ideals in the Philippines of the 19th century that came consequently as a result of more than two centuries of Spanish rule ..." in the article's lead sentence to include the
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I did a little cleanup editing on this article today. One thing I noticed was that the lead sentence had a cite reading "Nick Joaquin, History and Culture." I could not find such a book in Google Books. I did find the following, and it seems to me that one of these might be the intended source. I'm
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out of chronological sequence in relation to material already present there. Then, looking at the section, I noticed that it contains material referring to dates outside of the period the header declares that it covers (1810-1813, 1807, 1816, 1762-1764, 1873). It looks to me as if some cleanup is
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Hmmm, you know, Philippine history is a delicate matter to edit on wikipedia. Even Filipino historians argue amongst themselves about the identity of Filipinos. Pre-Hispanic Philippines is just one side of the coin and Spanish Philippines another. For example, Teodoro Agoncillo seems to veer
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The early revolts listed were neither directly nor indirectly linked to the 1896 Revolution that established the Philippines as a nation. Moreover, various history books written by Filipino historians etablish the execution of GomBurZa as the beginning of Filipino Nationalism.
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seem to have appeared recently in this and other Filipino-focused Knowledge articles. I'm wondering whether and to what extent this is spam. It seems to me that if this organization is to be prominently mentioned, it should meet Knowledge's
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This article seems to cover a lot of historical material which is not directly related to its topic. It seems to me that much of the material in this article should be removed, and perhaps merged into one or another of the articles in the
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needed here. This article is far enough outside my normal focus that I hesitate to jump in and fiddle with it, and I've got other things to do, so for now I'll just mention this apparent need for cleanup here.
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article), and I'm pretty sure that participants in those movements could fairly be described as Philippine nationalists. I would describe Chief Dagami of Gabi, the primary participant in the
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I have noticed that some of the sections in this article are written by left-leaning professors as well as those of the right and fear that the objectivity of the article might be lost.
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This section says, "Spain had already ruled the Philippines for more than three centuries before Filipino nationalism developed." It seems to me that the
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1n 1596 is said in that WP article to have committed atrocities upon his fellow natives for refusing to rise up against the Spaniards.
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Sorry, but this article needs a lot of work before it becomes a GA. Good luck on improving the article, though.
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article provides a few (perhaps not all of the 53 listed, but probably some of those) counter-examples. --
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The Katipunan reached an overwhelming membership and attracted almost the lowly of the Filipino class.
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of 1567 (which actually occurred in 1565) as having been a Philippine nationalist; the leader of the
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established a revolutionary party based on the Filipino nationalism that started with
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article already exists. Both that article and this WP article started from
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There is a reference an entire book (citation 1) without giving the pages.
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I don't see how sections 7, 8, and 11 relate to Filipino Nationalism.
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There are two references that are exactly the same (11 & 12).
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Many references lack details like publisher, accessdate, etc.
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not sure which, so I've removed the questionable citation.
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Corazon Aquino succeeded as president of the Philippines.
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Dudes, this article is better suited for WikiPilipinas.
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Dashes and capitalization aren't used properly (e.g.
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Some sections have whole paragraphs that are uncited.
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Further progress of Filipino Nationalism (1820s-1860)
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