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Hey everyone I was just wondering if they ever released the original Final Fantasy II in North America because I bought an NES and I am looking to collect as many Final Fantasy games as possible. So if anyone has any knowledge about this please let me know because I believe Final Fantasy II and III
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This is long overdue but I have an issue with the second point being made. The line about dying is talking about an unavoidable character death as a part of the scripted storyline (the death is part of the established story) and not a character being killed due to due to an error on the part of the
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Oddly enough, I do have this information, as I have read this article, which you apparently have not. As the infobox can tell you, FF2 was released in some form in America for the Playstaion, Game Boy Advance, PSP, Playstation Network, and iOS. FF4 was originally released for the SNES in america as
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Again, that's one sentence. Roughly three ideas are glued together into one piece of text. It isn't just that it's poorly written- the entire thing needs an overhaul. It is way too long to be of any use, and makes references that only someone who has played the game would understand. I'd edit it
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This is a very, very wild claim. Perhaps it's just a terrible misarticulation and means "first FF sequel" (in which case it is redundant but less unfounded), I don't know. I have zero doubt that it is incorrect because it is so vague. There are so many prior video game sequels which meet the above
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I'm currently working on copyediting it - if anyone disagrees with any changes I make, please say so and discuss before undoing entirely - unless of course I've made a mistake, in which case feel free to notify me of it (I'm still new to this whole encyclopedia-writing business, so that might be
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Seeing as how I've never had the chance to play Final Fantasy II, I came here to read the story. There isn't much of a story, however. It seems more like a jumble of words strung together to look big. Not only that, but reading it gives me a headache. Here's a sentence from it:
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On ebay a custom NES game is for sale with Final Fantasy VII for NES and other Final Fantasy games including 2 and multiple language packs. The cartridge appears white and I have not verified the auciton's claim that this works on original NES machines.
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Crazy. Okay, FF2 sort of evoked a higher level of tragedy in its death scenes than earlier games, but that doesn't make it the first game in human history to kill playable characters in its storyline. I mean, even Pac-Man could be killed.
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I found myself looking through this article by coincidence and while I'm not normally bothered about a few dubious quotations where properly referenced, two sentences which seem infactual at best and ridiculous at worst did catch my eye.
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Given that this was the second game in the series, and that there can't have been a significant number of RPGs like it beforehand, is it appropriate to describe that system as tradition before it really came into common use?
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criteria, like Wizardry 2, or technically Bard's Tale 2 off the top of my head - and that doesn't even scratch the surface. I'm aware Gametrailers is used as a source but this is still unencyclopedic.
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The article needs copyediting, the story section is way too long and detailed, the whole thing needs a copyedit, and the expansions section needs references and the reception section needs expanding.
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why are the character section is a paragraph that basically describes the plot???? All the other final fantasy articles have a list of there characters or a small list on the main article.
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The plot summary is alarmingly long: it's a laughingstock. The plot for this simplistic game should be 3 paragraphs at the most. I guess this proves my theory that articles decline
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I agree with you that it's way too long, but I'd also point out that when it was GA'd in Spring '07 it had 10 paragraphs of plot- it was never the FF project's greatest work. --
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player which is very much avoidable (Pac-Man). That should stay unless there is an earlier game in which a death of a major character is necessary to advance the story.--
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Vague terms of size often are unnecessary and redundant - “some”, “a variety/number/majority of”, “several”, “a few”, “many”, “any”, and “all”. For example, “
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Agreed. The concept and creation stuff should be in this article as it's only one source and not significant enough to warrant a separate article.
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Question - why was "List of Final Fantasy II characters" redirected? It could have helped the reader to gain a better understanding of the plot.
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Perhaps change it to something like "experience-based advancement system that later became a staple of the genre"? Or something to that effect.—
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Per discussion with those working on the article, I am going to fail this GA review, and allow them to carry it back through a GA nomination.
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The article on the characters has no notability to speak of, and could be covered fully in the characters section of this article.
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If this is going to make a serious claim for good article status, I feel these "facts" should be amended, or reworded at least. --
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FF2, not the other way around. Your NES will only play FF1; no other NES Final Fantasy games were released in America. --
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Wasn't there a dwarf named Cid in the first Final Fantasy? (My apologies if I'm not using proper Wiki discussion form.)
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The long plot summary section is just a mass of text. Can it be broken down at all, or links added?
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