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It's Freeza. 2 e's. I was always impressed with the way wikipedia stuck with Son Goku's right name even though he's just addressed as Goku in the West. So why isn't Freeza getting the same treatment? Is it simply because westerners are more familiar with the wrong spelling, like S-eye-an vs S-Ay-an ?
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As far as I was concerned, that was my answer. My comment was not intended as "smart", and I don't appreciated you referring it as such. That how the complant is comming off, that the line is misrepresenting the statment as everybody. I gave a genuine reply to your statement on the matter. But since
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I'm questioning how notable Frieza is. There really isn't any reception in this article besides something that's slightly in-universe - in that it's a comparison of a VA's quality to another VA's. Regardless, is there anything more to say about Frieza? Seems that most of the article is just a plot
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