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accurate definition. Frankly, I don't care whether this article survives or not, but please note that I never intended the article to evolve into a particular description of anime. I don't know when someone removed my original text of the definition, but I'm sure you can look back and find it if you want. --
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states any morals outright. In addition, the protagonists collaborate with the Team Rocket executives to bring down the Elite Four, but if it truly had the purpose of teaching small children how to behave morally, the protagonists would have defeated the executives again and taken down the Elite Four
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In Kanto, there were very few filler episodes, so virtually every episode was connected and contributed to the plot. In Johto, there was a lot of fillers, but there was still some vague hints of a plot (and a few of the fillers, such as the Ninetales one, were actually pretty good). Hoenn and Sinnoh
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were added by the dubbers. In fact, there have only been a few times in the entire series where morals are blatantly stated in the original Japanese version, which is what matters when determining the demographic. Furthermore, Ash has collaborated with Team Rocket several times, something that would
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Hello, I'm a annoynamous editer on wikipedia, but I will join up to help edit better. I recently was looking at and talk pages, and I saw how much there sub-topic articles needed work, and I figured that I could help write the Kodomo article, since no one was even talking about it. I clicked the
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There are no fillers at all in the manga, and just about every page is important to the plot. In addition, sometimes items will show up that seem unimportant and are quickly forgotten, but have enormous importance later in the story. If it were really aimed at small children with no attention span,
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for example), but it may refer to either the type of anime this article describes, or anime suitable for children in general (not just younger children), and it's not always clear which. The longest essay I could find on the subject is the Japanese version of this article (which is marked for V and
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article has a long discussion of 女児アニメ and suggests those shows as examples (among others). It has some OR problems, apparently, but even if we are to take it for granted that something like Precure is 女児アニメ, I'd surmise that it's still not what comes to people mind when talking about 子供向けアニメ. I'd
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Regardless of where it supposedly belongs, I believe the original definition is far more appropriate (and accurate) than a description of manga for children. In any event, I'm not quite sure what you're driving at, since the article is in quite a different state at present than when I started it
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Hello. I started this article some time ago. If you look back, you will notice that the original text of the article was a simple definition of the word "Kodomo" (e.g. "child". While this beginning text has evolved into something quite different, you can see that it started off as a simple and
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No, you are the one claiming that it is something other then the demographic of the manga magazine it ran it. You are the one that has to provide a reliable source that the demographic is something other then the demographic of the manga magazine. Judging a manga by its content is
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As far as I know, there is no such thing as a "Kodomo manga magazine". Magazines serializing manga suitable for younger children still get classified as shōnen and shōjo. So by the logic we use to set the "demographic" tags, there may not be any "kodomo manga" at
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Firstly, I explained why I moved the article in my edit summary: "Anime and manga aimed towards this age range is more commonly referred to using the word kodomo." However, I am now unsure if that is the case, as I have no sources to back this up.
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Let's see how Pokémon, both the anime and manga, compare to the qualities this page states that kodomo has. "'Kodomo' works are noted for stories that are often very moralistic, teaching children how to behave as good and considerate people."
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The term for "children's anime" (etc.) is "kodomo-muke anime", which literally translates to "anime aimed at kids." I suppose if you do not have sources to back up how commonly it is used, we should wait before changing the article title per
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I don't remember seeing the term ever occurring in English literature regarding manga and anime. I'm not an avid reader of it either, but I was quite surprised when stumbling on this page (especially considering its previous
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on the magazine in which it ran. Period. There is no room for discussion on this issue, and your continued refusal to accept that is becoming disruptive. Please stop now and try to be productive rather than disruptive.
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link to the kodomo page, and saw that the article leaves much to be desired. So, if you wikians don't mind, I'll set up a account, and write a draft for the page soon (november-ish). Here's my first citation link.
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I think there is a difference between kodomo and kodomo ai? I'm no expert on the subject but I think that ai kodomo or kodomo ai refers to anime/manga like kodomo no jukan while kodomo by itself is for children.
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connotes "anime intended for children". He said to me, "Do you like kodomo?" and I got confused and said, "Huh? What are you talking about?" I think this article should be renamed to something like
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would only be appropriate if the lead is correct in asserting that the word "kodomo" alone is frequently used in English to refer to that particular anime "genre", a dubious claim I believe. Perhaps
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On another note, I think the magical girl shows mentioned in the article are generally thought of as shōjo anime among English-speaking audiences (their respective pages say so too). The japanese
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Can you show that "kodomo" is widely used as a demographic description by reliable English-language sources? "Children's manga" is the term that ANN and Crunchyroll use in their reporting. —
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So why does an article on the Japanese word for child not even state that Kodomo is indeed the japanese word for child? This should be fixed or the article name should be changed.
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Secondly, if you moved this article back because "the demographic in itself already has an English equivalent which we can use" then why does nobody seem to want to move
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The japanese article is 子供向けアニメ and not just 子供. Is there a reason that the article name in english is just "child" and not "child animation"?
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awhile back. If your purpose is merely to inform based on your current understanding, then please consider me informed of your opinion. --
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is published in a manga magazine with a "kodomo-muke" demographic, it is by default kodomo-muke manga. Please do not remove it again. ···
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I'll try to have a closer look at a few English books on anime on Monday just in case, but I'd say the article as it stands can go.
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in Japanese does not connote "anime intended for children". I met a young anime fan from an English-speaking region who believed
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I'm guessing it's because someone wrote this without full knowledge of the facts in Japanese. I'm going to clarify the beginning.
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series of games have gone on to be cultural phenomena in Japan. It is one of the few Shogakukan publications to use
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Why does an article on the Japanese word for child not even state that Kodomo is indeed the japanese word for child?
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Indeed, it may better to scrap the article altogether. There are several problems that seem difficult to overcome:
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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that specifically says "Pokémon is kodomo manga" or some variant of that. And using the fact that it appears in
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Pokemon seems more shounen-e,then Kodomo-e. Sure,it's often childish but,that doesn't mean it's not a shounen.
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I agree this needs to be sourced. And I've changed my mind. In order to be consistent, this should be moved to
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The phrase "kodomo anime" is not uncommon in Japanese (ABC TV's used to run a slot during school breaks called
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that it is a Kodomo manga based on the manga magazines it was serialized in. You will need some extraordinary
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still had more fillers than Kanto, but the amount was much less than Johto and there was more of a plot again.
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Yes, there are occasionally times when morals will be effectively written on a 50-foot glowing neon sign, but
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I agree. There is no such genre. This article offers nothing of value, and is confused and confusing.
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because "shōjo" is so ubiquitously and commonly used to describe those demographics.
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as there is clearly anime and manga aimed at very young kids (Anpanman, for example).
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If you remove it again, you will be blocked. The demographic of manga is based
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happen in anything with the purpose of teaching young children morals.
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The Japanese Pokemon manga are serialized in the Kodomo Manga called
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A definition of a foreign word belongs in Wiktionary, not Knowledge.
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal.
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But so is "kodomo", or so I think.(As stated above, I am unsure.)--
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If you ask me, Kodomo probably is just the Japanese way of saying "
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.
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stating that its target demographic is something else. --
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is seinen, not shōjo like some people seem to think. ···
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It doesn't mater what you think, your reasoning is all
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