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This seems like a strange inversion of that policy. It is essentially saying that you should refer to someone by their preferred alias if a sufficient quantity of RSes do so (as opposed to their real name), but you are kind of stretching it to say that actually, "Kanye West" is his pseudonym... Which
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So I've noticed something recently. The first sentence is "Ye (born Kanye Omari West) is a . . ." but when hovered over on a link, the first sentence shows as "Ye is a . ." which I find confusing. I think we should add after parenthesis "Ye, more commonly known as Kanye West" or "Ye, formerly Kanye
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Ye should be referred to as "Ye". i've read through the talkpage archives and the arguments used to prevent moving this to its correct title are unpersuasive, especially WP:DEADNAME. the policy in the black community is that one should not "call someone out of their name", and i don't see any real
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ye recently exclaimed only being called “ye” and that the name “kanye west” was a slave name. my thinking is that spotify and apple music are gonna refer to him as ye now instead of kanye west which brings up the question wether or not the article name should be called “Ye (musician)” or something
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1874:10,145
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1831:14,191
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2089:Notes
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