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otherwise we should rename Bakirköy to Makrohori, Kumkapi to Kontoskalion, Yesilköy to San Stefano, and so on. :-) Of course, the title of the history paragraph dealing about the byzantine/genoese age can bear the name Galata, and if someone wants to write an history centered article about the quarter in the Byzantine and Levantine age (as Oliver Jens Schmitt superbly did in his book "Levantiner"), the right title would be Galata.
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I've POV tagged this entire article. Karaköy is just the name of a small district of Galata where the ferry port is located - it is not all of Galata. I'm not sure if there are bad motives behind this expansion to include all of Galata (an attempt at denying or minimising the use of the name Galata,
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These pages should definitely be merged. Cities and regions within cities that have changed their name are not uncommon, and there needs to be a very good reason for two separate articles. The above discussion doesn't seem to provide any arguments one way or the other and ran out of steam. There is
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The relation between the expressions "Galata" and "Karaköy" is the same as that between Constantinople and Istanbul. Writing about "the genoese citadel of Karaköy" would be an anachronism, but a topographic (i.e.,ab out today`s Istanbul) article about the neighborhood should have the name Karaköy:
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BoogaLouie, you shot the problem in the eye! The problem is some people wish to see Istanbul -today- as their greatgrandfather (maybe an Ottoman) told them -or better to their grandparents. But the Ottoman Empire (and the other Empires) have long gone... Alessandro?
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Alex, I do not expect any foolish opposition to this merge. As a respected Genovese, Venetian (or neutral Swiss :-) resident of the city you should take the initiative to merge the pages without losing important stuff. Thanks in advance.
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Ancient Galata is Karaköy. Or Karaköy used to be Galata. Limits may change in centuries but where do they not, especially after so much time?.. --
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Constantinapole is not the contemporary name of Istanbul. Please correct the name of this formerly Greek and Byzantine, but now Turkish, city.4
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article, making Galata a "redirect" so that the people who will look for this in WP may come to to the right place. --
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Galata and Karaköy are different neighbourhoods in Beyoğlu. I dont agree with you.--Abbatai 13:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
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would seem to need to be rewritten to be purely historical, with contemporary photos moved to
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article was about an historical district (so justifying separation from the
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Yes, but after next week: now I am in holiday (guess where? :-))
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