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948: 451: 124: 106: 309: 288: 542:, and justjaredjr.com/tags/kelsey-chow/ "Kelsey Asbille (you may know her as Kelsey Chow) is still in college." All that I came up with searching for references to her name change. It just happened, it appears, without press release. Every site tends to mention her as Kelsey Chow or as Kelsey Asbille with the former being throughout her career and currently and the latter only being quite recently. She uses Asbille herself on social media and to pen and publish puff-pieces, see: 610:. However, now that she has used Asbille for two films and Chow on all the others, someone needs to go through and indicate which name she used on which projects. While the article is still at Chow, all that needs to be indicated is that she's used Asbille for Yellowstone and Wind River. But if she goes through with the name change, and if the page name changes, all the past credits will need to be annotated. I suggest it be done by whoever wants to move the page. :) - 441: 260: 420: 319: 198: 174: 893: 75: 743:“The enrollment and descendant records of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians have been searched for the aforementioned person. Kelsey Asbille (Chow) is not now nor has she ever been an enrolled member of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. No documentation was found in our records to support any claim that she descends from the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians.” 208: 1398:
I don't think we should go back and retcon her name in this. If she was going by Chow for that project, and is called that in the cited source, I don't think we should change that text to "Asbille". Has she done a legal name change? Whether or not, if the source says "Chow", I don't thing there's any
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In a recent article entitled “What’s So Hard About Casting Indian Actors in Indian Roles?” published by The New York Times, it stated that “Kelsey Asbille, who plays Natalie, the young Indian woman who is raped and murdered in “Wind River,” is of Taiwanese, British and Eastern Band Cherokee descent.”
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There is an increased outcry from the Native community and society at large concerning whitewashing and cultural appropriation in media and the motion picture industry. To the public’s knowledge, Ms. Asbille (Chow) had not claimed Native ancestry until Wind River. No proof was offered by Kelsey, her
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The project has provided Asbille, who is of Chinese, English, and Cherokee descent, the opportunity to learn more about one piece of her multi-faceted lineage. “It’s been a blessing to get to explore native culture,” she says, adding that indigenous rights has also become a focus of her studies at
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The consensus was that this accusation would remain in the talk page, but somebody went ahead and published it. I don't see how we can publish this smear. On one hand we have the New York Times article saying that the film Wind River vetted all its native actors to ensure authenticity. We have the
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Intro: Change "She is known for her role as Mikayla in the Disney XD sitcom Pair of Kings. From 2005 to 2009, she had a recurring role as Gigi Silveri on the drama One Tree Hill. She portrayed Tracy Stewart in MTV's Teen Wolf from 2015–2016 to She is known for her role as Monica Dutton in the
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As a result, Native American actor and producer Sonny Skyhawk, who is Sicangu Lakota and founder of American Indians in Film & Television, a National advocacy organization that monitors the image and portrayal of the Native Nations of America, put forth an inquiry with the Eastern Band of
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The editors didn't come up with the "Cherokee identity" claim themselves. But yes, that phrase is not a direct quote from Asbille in the text they chose to publish; so I've altered the text in the article and put the cite back in for the vaguer heritage claim. -
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Columbia. “As a person of mixed race, as you get older it matters more to you who you are and where you come from. So to be able to get in touch with that side of my heritage has been amazing. I’d like to do that with all aspects of my heritage in the future.”
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to source a statement like "Asbille claimed to have a Cherokee identity". The phrase "Cherokee identity" only appears in title ("Yellowstone Star Kelsey Asbille Grows Into Her Cherokee Identity Onscreen") and is not attributed to Asbille herself. See
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sources. I think including the full form of her name, as it is now, is best until there is a WP:RS source for an official name change. BTW, anyone can edit IMDb. See below for the fact she is not Native. For now, the page should stay where it is. -
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https://www.paramountnetwork.com/press/paramount-network-announces-highly-anticipated-premiere-date-for-season-three-of-yellowstone-televisions-most-watched-summer-series-returns-fathers-day-on-a-new-night-sunday-june-2/
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On the other hand we have some shoddy casino website source, that doesn't prove she's lying, but merely claims that she's not enrolled in her tribe's official records (which the NYT already established is a common
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and it mentions "(as Kelsey Chow)" for every role up to Teen Wolf in 2016, her latest five roles on their own IMDb pages all say Kelsey Asbille in their casts. Also, mentioned on tangents in this thread on reddit
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This should stay on the talk page as long as there is any controversy about her status, and be noted in the the article in some form if the claim is made again or becomes an issue in the edits. -
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It seems that you would like to change the name of this article. In order to do so, I think it will be necessary for you to start a move discussion. In addition, you do not cite any sources.
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actress claiming in that same article that she has native ancestry. The NYT article author also mentions that he's native, and that many natives are not officially enrolled in their tribe.
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As the identical, persistent, IP disruption resumed as soon as the "semi-protected" template was removed from the page, I've semi-ed this again, this time for three months. -
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The page was moved against consensus, with no new sources being added. I have reverted unless and until that situation changes. For all the reasons cited here on talk. -
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Due to the driveby IP disruption & refusal to engage on talk I've semi-ed this for a month. Other admins, feel free to review, as I've done some minor edits here. -
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Intro: Change "Kelsey Asbille Chow (born September 9, 1991) to Kelsey Asbill Chow (born September 9, 1991)" because there is no *e* in the legal spelling of Asbill.
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reason to change the text to a name that's not in the source, so I have reverted it. Similarly, the photo is from when she used her surname, not her middle name. -
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Not only is it the responsibility of the actors and actresses who claim Native heritage to communicate proof of Native lineage, but producers and directors as well.
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If I had seen this I would have opposed. I am not certain she's changed her name. I'll look into it further, but we may wind up wanting to move this back. -
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https://www.paramountnetwork.com/press/paramount-networks-yellowstone-season-three-premiere-delivers-record-ratings-and-increases-127-from-season-two/
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Can this please be changed to reflect "Kelsey Asbille"? Sources above are multiple years old and all recent IMDb credits reflect the name "Asbille".
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Not a flurry or emergency, but this makes me wonder if we should semi the article. I also edit here so asking what others think. -
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Title: Change "Kelsey Chow to Kelsey Asbille" because this is the name in which she self-identifies and uses in her public life.
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The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, a federally recognized tribe, responded by denying her tribal membership and descendancy.
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There's no good source for this yet, but she's changed her stage name to Kelsey Asbille. On her IMDb she she is listed that way
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If she's of Taiwanese heritage, why does this Knowledge article refer to her as "Chinese"? That's not very encyclopedic.
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Agreed. The tribe she claimed to be from has issued an official statement that she is not a member or even a descendant:
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We need a lot more than that if we're going to publish insinuations that she's lying about her heritage.
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Paramount Network series Yellowstone." because this is her most recent and her most well known work.
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http://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a10235205/kelsey-asbille-college-interview/
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This letter of denial from the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians bears the official tribal seal.
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representatives, directors or producers to verify her claim of Native heritage, either.
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I think we need to wait and see how this sorts out. As of now, none of the above are
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The original bio that credits this name isn't even active anymore kelseychow.com
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