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trying to ban him from entering Japan, seems to indicate that he's not a
Japanese citizen. A Japanese citizen would have automatic rights to enter the country and can never be banned from the country. In addition, Omega never provided any proof, such as a citizenship certificate, natrualization record, passport, etc. He's also never indicated any details about the supposed naturalization, such as the date of it or location. Lastly, Japanese Nationality Law requires foreigners to officially renounce citizenship. Japanese law does not allow dual citizenship. It doesn't look like Omega has gone to the Canadian government to renounce his citizenship, which would be highly unlikely. Therefore, I don't think there is sufficient evidence to indicate that he is a Japanese citizen. Here is an article that seems to increase the doubt that he has naturalized.
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central focus as well. Yeah, I love that that a person has for his pet or another another animal like these, these things you don't really see in wrestling and you think like, okay, how would that work? Well, at one time, people in wrestling or fans of wrestling would be like, okay, well, how would
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Kenny Omega the character and Kota Ibushi have had an implied romantic relationship that was a "storyline" in both DDT and NJPW, and subsequently Tyson Smith the person has been ambiguous about Tyson Smith's sexuality. If you want to cut off the Tyson Smith part, that's whatever. At this point I am
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examples are not valid here. The prominence of the material about those subjects' sexualities is determined by the prominence of the coverageâMiley Cyrus, the GA-level article of the three, includes more than several exceptional claims that are supported by exceptional sources. The only exceptional
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Thank you for your willingness to write another GA review! I see that your GA nominations are currently under review, so I'll be sure to leave additional comments regarding those articles in the coming days. I do have a question, though. I'm not really clear on when the review a specific section is
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I moved all but one of the citations to the body. The only I'm having an issue with is the ring name Scott
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Japanese speaker. The fact that he's being routinely stopped at the border and that there is documentation indicated that NJPW has been
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We only include material that we could source sufficiently and appropriately. "I know this material is appropriate even though I can't fully respond to the policy concerns" does not cut it. Your clarification confirms that even the intent behind the paragraph is a violation because none of these
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Outsports who confirm what's already stated by WON/WOR and
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Talk about a potentially huge swerve. While it's not fully clear this is the direction things are headed (although the ambiguous tease certainly seemed on purpose), WWE could be on its way to presenting its first same-sex relationship angle with a tasteful undertone. Considering the successful
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So it seems like rather than being an outright error, there is a minority view amongst some authors that Kenny Omega the person is "openly bisexual". I don't think the sources should be disqualified for expressing a minority view; we can use them and account for the fact that their view on that
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All four sources are great. The nature of the claim is no longer a BLP violation. I do suggest we tweak the phrasing to make it even more sensible and succinct. Wherever we place this claim, it's crucial that it doesn't contain suggestions involving the living people's real lives or a specific
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a story that unfolded over a decade, right, about you and your tag team partner, Kota Ibushi. Yeah. And you called yourselves The Golden Lovers, and you were two men who said you loved each other and you. You embraced and you kissed. And I'll note, I don't think you're ever explicit about your
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I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my
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I was 80% into writing this reply when I saw you post on my talk page stating you don't want to keep discussing this. I am still posting the following for the benefit of any other editors joining the discussion, as clarifies the use of some sources, and also introduces some new ones.
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from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
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timeline. Writing "have or have had" suggests they're currently in an implied relationship or no longer in an implied relationship when sources only say the romantic undertones exist. Also worth considering is the removal of the unnecessary promotion mentions. Maybe something like...
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open to other editors being involved in this discussion; in fact in the very first post of this thread I gave a clarification in the opening to help any editors navigate the discussion. For what it's worth, I've left a message on the BLP noticeboard directing them to this discussion.
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one-time IWGP Heavyweight Champion, one-time and inaugural IWGP United States Champion, and one-time IWGP Intercontinental Champion among other championships. (one-time is a bit pointless, can we just say "Omega has held the IWGP Heavyweight, United States... etc). Best Wishes,
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You are correct that "Our specialized wrestling knowledge cannot and should not determine what we include. Sources do.", which is why I made a good-faith effort to improve the sourcing of the first sentence with several additional sources, something I'd like to segway into
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The Jurassic Park comparison is absurd because you could find hundreds of sourcesâprint and onlineâto support a claim about its exploration of human and dinosaur relationship dynamics. The same can't be said about an implied romantic relationship between
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I believe this is the creator and (one of the) performer(s) of the storyline stating that yes, the intention of the storyline between Omega and Ibushi was for it to be received as a romance/love storyline. I feel this is a pretty, pretty, pretty solid
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In the beginning paragraph. After you list Omega is the inaugural trio champions you should add "Omega is widely considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time." As this line adds to how great Omega is and how many wrestling critics view him.
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Now that I have a source explicitly stating a major component of the 2019 documentary was the implied romantic relationship between Omega and Kota Ibushi, can someone suggest how I can add this information to the article without it being objecting
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Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's
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I'm ok with this - as is. There's always extra information, and extra cleanup, and a lot of work would need to be in place if you were to nominate for FAC, but as of today, this meets the GA criteria, so I'll promote. Congrats. Best Wishes,
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there is a piece here - Regarding his life outside of wrestling, Smith said that he had no time to think about relationships because he was completely focused on his wrestling goals. - however, I know that shortly after this he began dating
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specific aspect may be a minority one. We're not citing them to suggest Omega the person is bisexual, we're citing the part where they discuss the on-screen romantic relationship between Omega the character and Ibushi the character.
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He is an executive vice president of All Elite Wrestling, where he also serves as an in-ring talent. - this sentence rubs me wrong. Is he not the vice president (is there more than one?), and "in-ring talent" is
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Pretty much all of the above. Speculation, and non RS. There should be a paper trail somewhere to know what is actually true, but none of the evidence above can really change what we already have. Best Wishes,
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The fact that he's being routinely stopped at the border and that there is documentation indicated that NJPW has been trying to ban him from entering Japan, seems to indicate that he's not a Japanese citizen.
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actual sexual orientation without sufficient sourcing is just unacceptable. This article does not get to circumvent the BLP policy just because it's a pro wrestling article. You can't convince me otherwise.
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At the time I should have stated that I meant that I thought other editors not familiar with wrestling may find elements/terminology such as "Kenny Omega the character" vs "Kenny Omega the person" confusing
4231:. The comparison you've drawn to CNN is incomplete. Dave Meltzer is Don Lemon. While CNN is reliable, we wouldn't cite Don Lemon's analyses on his former program and automatically deem them reliable or due.
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comparison is absurd because you could find hundreds of sourcesâprint and onlineâto support a claim about its exploration of human and dinosaur relationship dynamics. The same can't be said about an
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You began a conversation on my user talk page, but let's have it here on the article's talk page. For anyone else reading this, we are discussing the bottom paragraph of the personal life section in
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Be careful of image captions, captions should have something in there that describes why the image is importatnt. "Omega in 2010" is a really poor one, which could explain so much more. Best Wishes,
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Using the Wikivoice to state Omega/Smith is gay/bisexual at this moment in time would probably be a BLP violation...but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm noting the claims/language/insinuations.
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That's awesome! Shows how fascinating and notable your nominations are. I left some comments on your FA nomination. I hope they help it achieve FA. Wonderful work all around! And thank you!
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jumps out at me here. The infobox is full of citations, could we add some of these to the main body instead? The debut is weird, as the article doesn't mention 2000 at all. Best Wishes,
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In the meantime since my last reply, I've been doing more examining of Knowledge (XXG) guidelines. One thing I wish I could have covered in my first reply relates to your concern that
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and the high risk and pain it involves are major components of the documentary", but it wouldn't be due, and this claim doesn't even contain information about living persons.
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finished, so would it be more appropriate to address your concerns and update the content in accordance to your recommendations once the entire article has been reviewed?
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the most fiscally conservative President in history, and to use that as signifier of what he stands for. This difference is presenting information is outlined in
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A video of the match went viral and made international news, after which Omega received death threats. - this needs a cite (and probably expansion!) Best Wishes,
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but not about either subject's sexuality, the former of which has nothing to do with Omega's personal life regardless of how much synthesizing you're attempting.
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Thank you for doing that! Looks pretty good now, I'll do the review now (or some of it, it's a long article) Best Wishes,
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His mother works in family services - this will be dated. Do we have a date as to when? Best Wishes,
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