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See the note above. You didn't add any real references, only references to his list of credits. Those have been moved to the works list. Repeating that list in prose adds nothing to the article. His notability has NOT been established. You've yet to provide a single reference that does more than note
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Do you even know what AGF means at all? It doesn't seem so since you keep claiming good faith isn't being followed just because his notability is questioned. Ans sorry, but again, primary source interviews do NOT establish notability, nor do on-disc/tape extras. This has long been established and
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