Talk:Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity)

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Armenian throne until a lasting measure of equilibrium was secured by the treaty of Rhandeia, concluded in AD 63 between the Roman general Gnaeus Domitius Corbulo and Tiridates (Trdat), brother of the Parthian king Vologeses I. Under this treaty a son of the Parthian Arsacid dynasty, the first being Tiridates, would occupy the throne of Armenia but as a Roman vassal. A dispute with Parthia led to Armenia's annexation by the Roman emperor Trajan in 115 or 116, but his successor, Hadrian, withdrew the frontier of the Roman Empire to the Euphrates. After the Roman emperor Caracalla's capture of King Vagharshak and his attempt to annex the country in 216, his successor, Macrinus, recognized Vagharshak's son Tiridates II (Khosrow the Great in Armenian sources) as king of Armenia (217). Tiridates II's resistance to the Sasanid dynasty after the fall of the Arsacid dynasty in Persia (224) ended in his assassination by their agent Anak the Parthian (c. 238) and in the conquest of Armenia by Shapur I, who placed his vassal Artavazd on the throne (252). Under Diocletian, the Persians were forced to relinquish Armenia, and Tiridates III, the son of Tiridates II, was restored to the throne under Roman protection (c. 287); his reign determined the course of much of Armenia's subsequent history, and his conversion by St. Gregory the Illuminator and the adoption of Christianity as the state religion (c. 314) created a permanent gulf between Armenia and Persia."

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Besides, Armenia Major was more of a geographic name to differentiate it from the other Armenian regions of Armenia Minor and Sophene (think of Greater Armenia and Lesser Armenia; today we just simply call it "Armenian Highland"). It was also used to refer to the kingdom, but that's much like China or the Kingdom of Italy adopting the regional name rather than the name of the majority ethnic group. I think Kingdom of Armenia must still be a broad article like a glorified disambiguation page without a country infobox because it covers a period with several foreign rule (successors and predecessors would be too confusing). We could include the country infobox in the articles for the dynasties much like

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father-in-law, Mithradates VI Eupator of Pontus, and Rome. The Roman general Lucius Licinius Lucullus captured Tigranocerta, Tigranes' new capital, in 69 BC. He failed to reach Artashat, but in 66 BC the legions of Pompey, aided by one of Tigranes' sons, succeeded, compelling the king to renounce Syria and other conquests in the south and to become an ally of Rome. Armenia became a buffer state, and often a battlefield, between Rome and Parthia.

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You are edit warring. I asked you to start discussing multiple times (3 times on Dec 4 and once on Dec 5 above) and you're only answering now. It is not uncivil to qualify the sources you added back for what they are: rubbish. Back then Materialscientist described them as "obscure". And disruption is

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Greater Armenia was independent until 428 AD. "Under Tigranes, Armenia ascended to a pinnacle of power unique in its history and became, albeit briefly, the strongest state in the Roman east. Extensive territories were taken from the kingdom of Parthia in Iran, which was compelled to sign a treaty of

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How could have Greater Armenia been "independent" kingdom after Tigran the Great lost?! There has been several treaties between Rome/Byzantum and Parthia/Persia over Armenia -- it has become a vassal state since c. 65 BC, and was only independent from about 95 BC -- so for 30 years. The periods after

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The ethnonym itself and all other names attested with reference to the rebellions against Darius in Armina (the proper names Araxa, Haldita, and Dādṛšiš, the toponyms Zūzahya, Tigra, and Uyamā, and the district name Autiyāra) are not connected with Armenian linguistic and onomastic material attested

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The basic goal of the move is to give a more accurate understanding of the history of Armenia, since "Kingdom of Armenia" is ambiguous, and can refer to many different kingdoms throughout the history of Armenia. That's why I believe it is correct to include the name of the era (i.e. Aniquity, Middle

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In connection with the accounts of these events in Darius's inscription at Bīsotūn the names Armina (Armenia) and Arminiya (Armenian) appear for the first time. The Greek authors also use them. They bear no relation to the names Hay (pl. Haykʿ) and Hayastan which the Armenians gave, and still give,

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It says at the end Political Geography section that Armenian Empire was large as 3 000 000 km2 under Tigranes the Great and that Parthia was it's vassal but there is no source to these. I have not found anything to prove this so is this information false or true? Someone should put a source to it.

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Extending the date of the Kingdom of Armenia to 553 BC would make its dates overlap with its predecessor Satrapy of Armenia. You claim the dates that were there before your edits also overlap, but the Satrapy of Armenia (Armina) ended in 331 BC, and 10 years later, the Kingdom of Armenia was formed

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count in determining what a primary topic is if the news sources document continuing dominance of a particular topic, and not just a spike in dominance, which the news sources do, continuing dominance of the socio-political concept for decades. Indeed your choice of using only "academic sources" is

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The Orontid Capitals were Armavir and Yervandashat, not Van. Van was the capital of Urartu, so it's likely it was also the capital of the Orontids for some time, but there is no evidence for this. Van was never the capital of the Kingdom of Armenia. The state mentioned in the legendary/traditional

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Armenia Major, though, is a name many people don't like to use. I had attempted to use that name for the kingdom in antiquity but various people always changed it to Kingdom of Armenia. It seems people prefer to select the name that includes the type of government (kingdom, empire, republic, etc).

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Of course the material is the same: have you dared to read the content? It's just the list of the 15 provinces of Greater Armenia. Can you point to what is different in substance (not format)? It's the IDENTICAL list. I removed the capitals because they're neither needed nor sourced (and may have

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My concern is that several people corrected that before Christianity in Armenia the native pagan faith was the main religion. Zoroastrianism only had a brief period. Either it has to say "Native Armenian pagan faith" or both, but stating only zoroastrianism is falsification of history, as several

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I removed all the contents added in the last two months. The material was very low quality (POV, reads like a middle school research, unsourced) and anyway it should have gone to a different page, this one is about the 190BC-387AD Kingdom of Armenia while the removed material referred to all the

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The Culture was Armenian not Iranian, Armenia wasn't "Maneuvering" but fighting, gained a reputation for their bravery, Plutarch wrote that the Armenian archers could kill from 200 meters with their deadly accurate arrows. "Both Rome and Parthia strove to establish their own candidates on the

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From Columbia Encyclopedia, based fully on Armenian sources: " The Romans distinguished between Greater Armenia and Lesser Armenia, respectively east and west of the Euphrates. Tiridates, a Parthian prince, was confirmed as king of Armenia by Nero in A.D. 66. Christianity was introduced early;

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when he was on good terms with the Macedonian generals Eumenes and Peucestas (the satrap of Persis), and add interestingly that he used Aramaic in his correspondence with Eumenes (Diodorus 19.27.3; Polyaenus, Strategmata 4.8.3). Toward the beginning of the 3rd century B.C., a certain Ardoates

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A request to protect the page was submitted to prevent an unregistered user from edit warring, however, it has been fully protected so as to only be edited by Administrators. The unregistered user was using inaccurate dates and including a city as capital which is completely inaccurate. This

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Through the Macedonian conquest and the subsequent Seleucid dominion in Hither Asia, there opened for the Armens a new era of political and economic advancement, which lasted 140 years – from 330 to 190 B.C., at which latter date the kingdom of Artaxias (Artashes) and Zariadres (Zareh) were

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Although Armenian culture at the time of Tigranes was Armenian, as it had been and as it was fundamentally to remain for many centuries, Hellenic scholars and actors found a welcome at the Armenian court. The Armenian empire lasted until Tigranes became involved in the struggle between his

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information had remained unchanged and accepted since 2011. The user who protected the page reverted it to a version that still includes the inaccuracies. I have made a request on the page of the person who protected the article, but just in case, I am making a request here as well.

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Comment on population 9 Nov 2010: "How come the population would be 30 million? Even today with a population boom, population of the whole area shown in the map is probably half of that. It might be written in a book, but does not mean that the figure is credible." (End)

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The academic sources given above are more than enough to make it clear. It should either be simply "Greater Armenia" (as in most sources) or "Kingdom of Greater Armenia" (per Oxford Univ.). No academic source uses the term "Kingdom of Armenia" for this state.

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The conventional date of the Kingdom is 190BC (when the Artaxias dynasty freed Armenia from Alexander's Empire), but there is evidence (as mentioned in the article), that the Orontids had promoted themselves from Satraps to Kings in the late 4th century

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This article at the beginning mentions that the kingdom was founded in 190 BC after the desctruction of the Seleucid Empire. They weren't destroyed for another 130+ years. They were beaten by the Romans, yes, but not destroyed or even close.

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You realize all those books are from the 19th century? The only new book that uses "Kingdom of Armenia" is Mack Chahin's 2001 book, but it also includes Bagratid Armenia and Cilician Armenia under Kingdom of Armenia. You prefer to ignore the

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alliance. Iberia (Georgia), Albania, and Atropatene had already accepted Tigranes' suzerainty when the Syrians, tired of anarchy, offered him their crown (83 BC). Tigranes penetrated as far south as Ptolemais (modern 'Akko, Israel).

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Comment on population 9 Nov 2010: "In regards to the flags, I think that the flag of the Artaxiad dynasty should remain as there is substantial evidence of the banner being real as it was reconstructed on this armenian blog post:

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Instead of wondering, you should read carefully -- from Britannica and Columbia Encyclopedias. No one ever disputes the fact that Armenia was always an independent state including Tigranes the Great's reign, who was of Armenian

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the current title is more meaningful to the general reader, as the current article does cover the period of classical antiquity, to many people "Greater Armenia" might suggest a geographical rather than a historical concept.

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Ages, etc.) in parentheses to specify the kingdom of Armenia at the appropriate time in history, and use this article (Kingdom of Armenia) as a list (like a disambiguation page) that lists all of the kingdoms in the form of:

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Before voting oppose, I suggest you read their arguments and my replies to them. The nationalist concept is not a primary topic and has never been. The academic sources provided by me are more than enough to prove that.

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So can you stick to the content and explain why you reverted? The existence of an ongoing merge proposal in unrelated and in any case does not prevent from improving the content (here, adding a source) of this article.

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need to make primary topic claims if you want to move an article over a dab, because the status quo is no primary topic for the term. And as someone was bound to point out anyway, this move also necessitates a move of

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The information you are suggesting to change has been in place since 2011, and even prior to this is was 190 BC. If you believe this to be incorrect, you can make an edit, but if your edit is reverted, please to

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I removed it wherever I could find it. As far as I can tell, these and many other flags claiming to be historical are merely the creation of blogs like PeopleOfAr and are not attested in any scholarly source.

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you can see it is focused predominantly on the modern day concept. Indeed if you include the news results from the end of the 19th century, early 20th, those also deal with the same socio-politcal concept. --

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A Macedonian, Neoptolemus, is mentioned as holding the office soon after Alexander’s death in 323 B.C. but there are indications that he failed to quell an Armenian revolt, which may have been led by the

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was about the Safrastyan user about inaccurate edits to the article, not about the discussion about moving the article (judging by the date the user posted it, and the edits that were being made then).

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correctly removed them TEN YEARS AGO. There's no reason for anyone to go ten years back in the past to revert someone's edit and add back rubbish. Revert your own edits and stop your disruption.

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Be that as it may, the ancient kindom is still the primary referent of the term "Kingdom of Armenia". Also, whatever happened to seeking consensus before implementing moves? Your move also

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A précis of Ervand's reign should highlight the fact that while his predecessors were true Persians and absolutely faithful to the Great King , Ervand could have had no such loyalties

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others mentioned as well. HistoryOfIran changes all Armenian articles in favor of Iran. Zoroastrianism was never as big as the native faith in Armenia, which is logical by the way.

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I agree. I believe the Seleucids had merely lost their influence over Armenia at that time, and were conquered by Tigranes the Great at a later date. See the article about the

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The current article covers Orontid, Artaxiad and Arsacid Armenia just fine and while the Kingdom itself was known as Greater Armenia/Armenia Major to distinguish it from

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There is absolutely no political continuity between the Kingdom which ceased to exist in 428 and the one that arose in 884, linking them together is absurd and ahistoric.

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take responsibility and fix all links manually, or else put it back the way it was. Unsurprisingly, this move is closely associated with subtle attempts to suggest that

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I don't really have a solid opinion. You are right with the Byzantine Empire. Another example would be Iran, which has separate articles for the different dynasties:

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I agree the edits were not an improvement and I have reverted. This is the article about the historical kindom. The article for Armenian irredentism etc. would be at

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don't make any sense to me (and I'm not sure they are RS for an article about history...), so I would revert that part. What do you think? (I don't know whether the

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Another interesting fact noted by Xenophon is that the Persian language was understood and spoken in remote villages of Western Armenia ( Anabasis 4.5.10, and 5.34)

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Are you engaging in edit warring? It's incivil of you to keep using the words like "rubbish" and "disruption". Wait for reply from Materialscientist then.

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Indicates that at 366BC, the Orontids were hereditary satraps (not kings) of Armenia. Their history is part of the predecessor state Satrapy of Armenia.

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When you make a mistake, you can acknowledge it and apologize. I added back the other sourced part you removed. And I reverted your disruptive edit on

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or somesuch. Indeed the target "Greater Armenia" is a disambiguation page, and I see very low utility in merging that as a hatnote into this article.

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is going to keep readd that contents indefinitely, and apparently he is not even going to discuss it in this Talk Page. What's the procedure now?

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Is there a source for the population figures? I'll continue to do some research, but if none can be found, I will remove them in a couple weeks.

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while their material is not the same. Although they pretended to add sources here, I'm reverting what he did before the discussion concludes.

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News. The use of "Greater Armenia" in this concept is by far more common than the nationalist concept. Come back with better arguments. --

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that have been in place for years. What's with all the recent article moves without proper discussion? I don't mind the move too much, but

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a

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of course, your move is perfectly arguable. I am not convinced it was the best solution, but it certainly isn't a case for WP:FTN :) --

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What's the point of adding one old Armenian-language source when we already a high-quality English-language RS backing the same claim?

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The academic sources you chose only deal with history, not with the modern day socio-political environment. Looking from Google News,

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that pertain to the socio-political concept, and have been for decades, there is no primarity for your choice. News sources that are

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has long been moved to United Armenia. I'm not the one who should make WP:PRIMARYTOPIC claims. Take a look at the sources. Clearly,

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553BC as the IP edit suggests. The fact that it began in 321 BC (which are the dates mentioned until the IP's edits) can be argued.

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The coastal cities of Byblos, Tyr, etc. are part of present day Lebanon which is not represented in the flags of the countries.

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Why was this page moved before the discussion closed? And why hasn't any of the 360+ dablinks been fixed before the move per

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Through the Macedonian conquests and the subsequent Seleucid domination in Hither Asia, there opened for the Armens

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I think it highly unlikely that such a small area kingdom would have such a large population no later than 400 AD.

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Armenia is described by Xenophon as a vast and rich country, with Orondas(Orontes) (Erouand, Ervanduni) ruling as

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If you consider news outlets more reliable than academic sources I have no reason to continue this discussion. --

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is RS in terms of neutrality, it's fine for now, but it would be better to have a more recent academic source)

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in c. 50 BC. The kingdom existed from 321 BC to 428 AD; its history is divided into successive reigns by three

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Eupator, can you show me some academic sources that use the exact form "Kingdom of Armenia" for Mets Hayk? --

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The latest version of this article does not respect Knowledge standards. Please provide references and

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History of Armenia. I don't think there was anything who could be salvaged, the existing pages (like

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Indicates that until around 331 BC, the rulers of Armenia were still satraps (hence the predecessor

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is used for the four dynasties (Yervanduni, Artashesyan, Arshakuni, Bagratuni). Just a thought. --

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from it in 321 BC. How does this overlap? What you are suggesting is similar to using the dates

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That's because the Kingdom was sometimes demoted to a Satrapy for brief periods in its history.

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the dates would be wrong when the only two sources cited are both Armenian. Let me help you:

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per proper disambiguation naming. A bot should fix the double redirects pretty quickly. –

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Yes it is, and it did. 6th century BC is the first time the word "Armenia" was recorded,

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begin an edit war. Discuss it here first. The Kingdom of Armenia began around 321 BC.

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This passage indicates that the Kingdom of Armenia began, without a doubt, in 190BC,

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http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/35178/Armenia/44264/Cultural-life#toc129456

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Ervand II's son, Ervand III is, however, mentioned by Diodorus (21.19) as 'King'.

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Vahan M. Kurkjian (2012). A History of Armenia. New York: Bibliotech Press. p52.

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per IP. "Greater Armenia" sounds like a modern irredentist claim, and indeed

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Indicates that his predecessors were subjects (satraps) of the Great King.

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news sources have no value, there wasn't much point in your rebuttal. --

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Graphs are unavailable due to technical issues. There is more info on

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Again: please explain your edits here. Otherwise, I'll revert them.

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of political and economic advancement, which lasted 140В years from

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Mach Chahin (2001). Kingdom of Armenia. Surrey: Routledge. p185–190.

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instead of Kingdom of Armenia? In Armenian historiography, the term

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a few days ago. I should have added this source the same day here (

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It is mentioned in many places that Armenia began in 6th century BC

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Don't remove the source, but please try to find the year instead.

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I can provide more, but I believe this is satisfactory for now.

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the text. Also, the "Origins" section is too long. Thank you.--

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on December 23, 2015. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at

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may refer to any of the following Armenian states in history:

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Please address these four points before reverting. Thank you.

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It wasn't small-during Tigranes the Great it was 3000000 km2

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What bludgeoning? I'm just asking you to stop edit warring.

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makes it looks better but these are still obscure sources. "

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mentions neither this date nor the Kingdom of Pontus. Stop.

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are used to determine primarity, not just academic sources.

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I had originally disambiguated the Kingdom of Armenia into

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thus becoming the creators of an independent Armenia

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history of Armenia was the Kingdom of Van (Urartu).

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