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The 'Armament' subsection begins "Tiger mounted eight 45-calibre BL 13.5-inch Mk V guns in four twin hydraulically powered turrets, designated 'A', 'B', 'Q' and 'Y' from front to rear." yet there are six references to an 'X' turret or barbette throughout the article. How should this inconsistency be
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Where in my statement did I say that the diagram referred to the aft turret as 'Y'? I referred to a 'Q' in it only. You may be confused. Certainly better not to assume what I think. Many thanks for your presumptuous and insulting
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