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1992:- If it's still outstanding when all the necessary stuff is fixed I'll remove it as unnecessary to GA and pass you, but in the mean time I'll leave it there for your reference. (I'm mostly just taking my revenge for the last GA I wrote where I had to break up about 60 references to one book into individually page referenced citations. :-) -
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1982:"contructing a house". ouch. That's a tricky one to re-do. I'm in no rush to push this to a FA, do you want me to try citing each one? Or can we skip this for now? :)
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