Talk:Homosexuality in India

1234:, the court has jurisdiction on all matters if the petitioner is resident wholly or partially in its area. All High Courts have the right to hear constitutional matters. Since this matter is of a uniform constitution, any judgement by one court is unlikely to be contradicted by a court of another state. Only the Supreme Court can strike down this judgement. There have been certain inter-state river disputes where the Government of one state has been listed as a valid respondent in the High court of the other state even though the violating dam was outside its jurisdiction. If a Central government law is struck down by any constitutional court, it would apply across India as opposed to say striking down a law passed by the Delhi state government. 1907: 435: 414: 445: 630: 609: 1483:, the High Court of Delhi held that S. 377 of the IPC was unconstitutional to the extent it criminalised consensual sexual acts between adults. Criminalising non-vaginal intercourse, it held, violated an individual's fundamental right to equality before the law, freedom from discrimination and to life and personal liberty under Articles 14, 15 and 21 of the Constitution of India. This decision does not bind courts outside Delhi, although it has persuasive value." -- 2020:"We declare that Section 377 IPC, insofar it criminalises consensual sexual acts of adults in private, is violative of Articles 21, 14 and 15 of the Constitution. The provisions of Section 377 IPC will continue to govern non-consensual penile non-vaginal sex and penile nonvaginal sex involving minors... Secondly, we clarify that our judgment will not result in the re-opening of criminal cases involving Section 377 IPC that have already attained finality." 875: 537: 519: 841:"However, this does not rule out the possibility of some other High Court ruling on this section or even the Supreme Court in a "Public Interest Litigation" (PIL)." ...Surely that is exactly what the 2003 decision on that NGO's standing to litigate the issue does rule out? I don't know Indian law, but that would be my understanding of the effect of the decision from the paragraph as it stands. ---- 547: 640: 245: 1593:

the High Courts enjoy equal jurisdiction and the judgements will be sent to the Supreme Court ONLY if there is a contradiction of judgements between the High Courts? I still think that it would be expressly legal in Delhi and ambiguous in the rest of India except Jammu and Kashmir. J&K will need an amendment/judgement on its own penal code which is currently a photo copy of the IPC.

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state legislatures make laws – to be applied only in their own state – the law’s validity is determined by reviewing it against the national constitution. As for Jammu and Kashmir, whilst the state does have its own constitution, all tenets of the Indian constitution apply there equally, unless expressly exempted.

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theaters with their torches and burning tires, or maybe you can interview Babu Bajrangi ... there's the voice of anti-gay India for you. If you want something more "civil", you'll be hard pressed to find it, because no matter how hard they try to hide it, bigotted people are irrational and prone to violence.

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rights).Also if any national laws are held unconstitutional by the constitutional courts(High Courts and Supreme Courts) it affects the entire country not just Delhi since the constitution of India is a unique document not different copies for different states. I would insert the caveat that the state of

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established that you neither understand how to evaluate sources, not what canvassing is, nor that reflecting the academic consensus on a matter cannot in principle be RGW, should occupy your time rereading CIR. Now forgive me while I laugh; you are not the arbiter of ‘my case’, which speaks for itself.

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If you want a page to mobilize against Gays, then make a new Wiki page and acall it "Homophobia in India"... Or, if that's too blatant, call it something more manicured, like "Puritans for India's Purity". Either way, dont assume that just because the Naz foundation is represented here, that somehow

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But we all know that India is riddled with sexual predators accesing underage girls all the time. It is quite blatant and I personally am certain that the police are in on it. That is just my opinion, but one formed not without good reason. Young women are mistreated, abused, molested and trafficed

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I got carried away once I got started :-) On the issue of other High Courts, I see where you're coming from and I don't think we're very far apart. I'll have a bash at consolidating and rewriting the section on legality this evening, and you can see if you're OK with my wording (discussing concrete

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And finally, Just in passing - Option 4 above is unlikely to work: Indian courts have held that the rights conferred by Article 14 and 21 form part of the basic structure of the Constitution, and cannot be taken away even by a constitutional amendment. Given that the right in this case was read into

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A decision of one High Court does not bind other High Courts. The High Court of Bombay could very validly decide tomorrow that S. 307 does not violate the Constitution, and that would be perfectly fine. This is why, as I said above, it is misleading to say that the decision of the Delhi HC applies

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I agree that the applicability issue should be worked better into the article. Basically, in Indian law, decision of one High Court do not bind other High Courts. Even if a particular High Court holds a law to be unconstitutional, other High Courts are free to disagree and they often do. A case in

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I agree that the applicability issue should be worked into the article rather than simply stating that the law "does not" apply outside Delhi. Perhaps a bit more research into the issue of applicability is in order before we can arrive at a more definitive version, in order to avoid running afoul of

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has ruled in earlier cases involving civil liberty (Especially the post Emergency Maneka Gandhi Vs the Union of India case) that it has a right to review all laws and constitutional amendments to make sure that they are in compliance with certain basic inalienable rights(like life, liberty and equal

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is removing large sections of texts across numerous articles concerning LGBTQ and India and/or Hinduism citing vague reasons such as "unreliable sources" even when numerous sources have been provided including both primary and secondary sources. I suggest that if he continues to remove text then he

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None of these sources are reliable *in relation to the Rig Veda*. None of them are authored by specialists in Sanskrit or Vedic literature, and none of the actual sources published by Sanskritists document this claim. The citations are entirely from authors who are not experts on the topic at hand,

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Lihaas On almost every Wiki page there are interest groups of one sort or another providing links to their sites, its an essential feature on Wiki... that being the sace, what's your problem with Naz? Yes, there are people who want that link, and will find it. Wiki is not an encyclopedia, its an

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I just deleted some of the external links and edits out other parts to organization that read like an ad as well cite to their webpage in the article itself. Talk about issues on an encyclopedia. This is not for those seeking some sort of guidance or what have you. Knowledge is an encyclopedia that

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Shankar, Shankar, I am bringing this up is to counter whatever article your read about NGO's relying on 377 to prosecute child molesters. And by the way, being gay and being a child molester are two TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS-- and a law that conflates them both is lunatic, bigoted and draconian,

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There are NPOV issues with the edits of Russianvodka. Him lowering the positive mindset among Indians regarding homosexuality and giving undue weight to vigilante executions despite they occur about just anything (kidnapping, murder, loot, divorce), they have to be backed with reliable source that

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Also, being pedantic, homosexuality by itself was never legal. Anyone could be gay all along and not have to worry about anything. However, acting (sexually) on one’s orientation was the crime. So, technically, anal sex between a man and a woman or threesomes or oral sex, etc were all illegal too.

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High Court held it constitutional. Was the case sent to the Supreme Court before the contradiction occurred or after? And if it was sent after ,until the Supreme Court verdict came did Andhra Pradesh and Delhi have different laws on suicide? Or is it that on laws enacted by the Central government,

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which would make this judgement valid in all of India. The accused can just state this judgement to stop any further prosecutions. The police however may still book a case in other states. So its basically the judgement could possibly apply directly to all of India due to the Original jurisdiction

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If you really want the voice of anti-gay India, then post something up about the violence directed against Deepa Mehta for producing "Fire". I was in India when "Girlfriend" was releases. If you want a voice for anti-gay India, then why dont you get some info on the people who were attaking movie

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reads like an advert for the group, perhaps copy+pasted. That needs to go through. It looks someone with a vested interest on this issue added it. Where's the criticism of homsexuality in india and support for 377?? God knows there is opposition to those getting it repealed. Ive seen quotes in the

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This article has several inaccuracies. According to Hindu Marriage Law, as long as you can prove previous precedence for a marriage, it can be registered as a "lawful" wedding. I don't remember the exact verbage, but I studied this in college. I do know of same-sex couples in India who are legally

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It probably alludes to the fact, that homosexuality is not specifically mentioned in any Indian statue. So technically, a person cannot be prosecuted for being gay. The law that criminalises homosexuality actually mentions unnatural sex and sodomy and actually equates homosexuality with sodomy (an

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Can you be more specific about what you are objecting to? This is a general article about homosexuality in India. If the topic appears in other articles, that's perfectly normal, just as it might be reasonable to expect to find SpongeBob SquarePants mentioned in a general article about television

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It means that 377 is officially repealed as of 2 July 2009, unless Parliament chooses to reinstate it (in its original or a modified form). However, what is certain is that all sexual acts between consenting adults, when performed in private, whatever the gender combination of said adults, are no

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Also, Andy anno is right in saying that the rulings of the state High Courts and the Supreme Court are binding across the country. Individual states do not have separate constitutions; there’s one for the whole country. What applies in Delhi applies in Gauhati, and everywhere else too. Even when

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They’re not reliable sources on this topic, especially given that the reliable sources on the topic contradict them. I’m perfectly happy to take this to RSN; there’s no OR on my part, as I’m merely faithfully reflecting the output of the authoritative academic sources on the matter. You, having

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Parliament is the final authority, in that no court can overrule a law passed by Parliament. The courts don’t create new laws, or amend existing ones. However, the courts' job is to determine if a law violates a constitution. If so, then the judiciary can rule the law to be unconstitutional and

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does have its own constitution that overrules a significant number of laws in the Indian constitution. So the "great persuasive value" argument would apply to the J&K High court not the other states and Union territories. Also the court has said it is only "clarifying" the law as opposed to

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applicable in other states, mere citation of this judgement as a precedent would be sufficient to stop criminal proceedings in other states. This matter had better be left to legal experts and until the dispute is resolved, the applicability conflict should also find its mention in the article

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of the Rigveda. The definitive academic translation of the Rigveda (Jamison & Brereton) also nowhere contains anything akin to this text, not does the associated commentary anywhere mention it. Unless someone can actually cite the number of the verse and/or an academic source written by a

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Furthermore, please consider that the vasty majority of sexual assaults in the world are perpetrated by adult males on younger females. This is the case both in the East and the West, and there is a substatial body of research demonstrating that quite solidly. Certainly, male assaults on male

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Amend the constitution and then reinstate 377 (or something similar). That way, the courts can do nothing, if indeed the amended constitution expressly allows everything-but-the-missionary-position-in-the-dark-under-the-blanket-between-married-adult-heterosexuals-for-procreation-only to be

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The Delhi High Court struck down a section of the Indian Penal Code. This law does not apply to Jammu and Kashmir - J&K has its own penal code (the Ranbir Penal Code) - so obviously the ruling striking that section down also does not apply. If the RPC has a provision criminalising

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repeal it. However, Parliament is free to amend the constitution as it sees fit Applying that principle to this case, Section 377 is formally read down as of yesterday, and that means it no longer applies anywhere in India. Going forward, lawmakers (ie: Parliament) have four options:

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I've now done this - it could probably do with some rewording though, so please have a look and feel free to change the wording. The rest of the section desperately needs a trim - much of it is out of date, and much of it could be hived off into an article on the case itself. --

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Word ‘vikṛti’ DOES NOT OCCUR EVEN ONCE in the Vedic texts as per Vedic Concordance. Word ‘prakṛti’ occurs only thrice in Vedic texts as per Vedic Concordance (TA 10.10.3, AS 8.13.31, MG 2.13.6). Whoever has added that,either give verse no & chap no of Rigveda or delete it.

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Legally speaking even a numerically larger bench of the Delhi High Court can overrule this judgement. However the lower courts in Delhi would apply this judgement directly. The prosecution can then appeal to the Delhi High Court and hope to overturn the judgement by a larger

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Re suicide: The case went to the Supreme Court after the Bombay HC and AP HC had made their decisions. So until the Supreme Court settled the matter (it eventually also overruled itself), attempting to commit suicide was legal in Maharashtra and Goa, and illegal in Andhra

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By "Yes I had," do you mean you looked at his recent contributions too? To clarify, I was stating that I looked at his recent contributions and I see that he is still being problematic. He's had enough warnings to stop that and reevaluate his behavior.

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I believe I read a (very small) article in a paper (around the time of the petition) about how NGOs for street kids depended upon Sectin 377 for prosecuting homosexual child abusers in India, since the terms for rape are defined only for penile-vaginal

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Vikriti Evam Prakriti (Sanskrit: विकृतिः एवम्‌ प्रकृति, meaning what seems unnatural is also natural)This phrase is ascribed to Rigveda. Fact: The expression "vikruti evam prakriti" DOES NOT OCCUR anywhere in the Vedas. It is not even correct Sanskrit

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Courts don't repeal laws in India, they strike them down. In Indian constitutional law, an unconstitutional law is void from day 1, although the courts can choose (as the Delhi HC did here) to give their rulings prospective effect either wholly or in

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Re Kashmir: The Indian Penal Code does not apply to Jammu and Kashmir - they have their own penal code (it's called the Ranbir Penal Code, and whilst based on the IPC it's not identical). The corresponding section of the Ranbir Penal Code has

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So according to this article, unless any other High Court strikes this judgement down, it is upheld. However this article gives insufficient information on the Anti Suicide law case where the Delhi High Court held it unconstitutional and the

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I don't understand what purpose the "Legal Aspect" section under "Legal Status" serves. In any case, it only gives one view of many viewpoints by the ASG and none at all of the petitioners. This section needs to be removed. Thoughts anyone?

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animation. If you're saying that there are other articles that duplicate the entirety of this article, that's something different, but there's insufficient information in your post to understand what specifically you are complaining about.

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The subject is whether the text “vikriti evam prakriti” occurs in the Rig Veda. The links to Monier-Williams establish that the text which is alleged to be in the Rig Veda is not actually attested in the Rig Veda. How is that irrelevant?

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point: in 1987, the High Court of Bombay held S. 309 of the Indian Penal Code (which criminalises an attempt to commit suicide) to be unconstitutional. In 1988, the High Court of Andhra Pradesh disagreed, and found that the section did

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decisions of one High Court are strongly persuasive for (but not binding on) other High Courts, a party can and should cite it as a precedent if a similar case comes up before another High Court, but the other High Court doesn't

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In regards to the first posting "Individual states do not have separate constitutions; there’s one for the whole country. What applies in Delhi applies in Gauhati, and everywhere else too. " Is that why some provinces have

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Why is there a problem with there being gay advocacy for Indians on a page about Gay Indians. I am a gay Indian, and evidently you're not... I think I have more of a sense of what being gay in India is like than you do.

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homosexuality, its validity will have to be separately considered. That having been said, I have no idea whether the Ranbir Penal Code even criminalises homosexuality - you'll have to start by figuring that out. --

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amending the law. This might indicate that while the wording of the law hasn't changed its application and interpretation has changed in the entire territory under Indian administration including Jammu and Kashmir.

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children do happen, but their numbers are eclipsed by the amount of assaults against females. Even the majority of the charges levied against the Catholic Church were directed to men attaking girls.

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I'm not complaining (no attacks please) but I am saying that very similar if not exact info is posted between both the LGBT rights in India and LGBT Culture in India so we do we need a third article?

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What "homosexual behavior" is not against the law, if homosexual sex is? Hand-holding? Kissing? Shopping? Or does the sentence mean to say "A homosexual orientation itself is not against the law"? --

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The subject in question is a phrase that is claimed to be in the Rigveda. How is it that the authoritative sources on the Rigveda have no relation to content which is alleged to be in the Rig Veda?

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The Delhi High Court has jurisdiction over only Delhi, but its rulings on the constitutionality of national laws are binding across the entire country, This is also true for any other High Court.

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longer criminal. And this applies across the country - it was a national law that was found unconstitutional, and the result of its repeal apply nationally. That's how Indian jurispridence works.

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Only thing matters is if the source is reliable and supporting the information or you have a reliable source which is backing your claim. Otherwise you are engaging in pure WP:OR and WP:JDL.

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online user moderated info-board. No one on Wiki, not even you, has the credentials to claim that this is an encyclopedia, if they did, they'd have a book, not a user-moderated info page.

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violate the Constitution. That is perfectly normal, and it could well occur even in the present case. All the same, it's misleading to say that the law has only been struck down in Delhi.

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I was only stating what I had read and remembered. I certainly do not believe that all gay people are child molesters. Please read what I have written before you jump to conclusions. --

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Why are you removing sourced material that says vigilante executions of LGBT occur? It is a reliable source and it says just what I said. If you leave that in I will be done reverting

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It's perfectly fine to complain, and my noting that you have made a complaint is not an attack. A complaint is merely a statement of displeasure. But lest we get caught up in this

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but are instead writers on queer theory or LGBT issues. Jamison & Brereton, Monier-Williams, and the revised Vedic concordance (Bloomfield & Sastri), all of which are

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Introduce another law on the same lines as 377. Of course, this will likely be struck down by the courts as being unconstitutional again – so it’s everyone’s waste of time.

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https://web.archive.org/20081009042809/http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com:80/India/Gay_rights_should_be_respected_prostitution_legalised_NHRC_chief/articleshow/3565933.cms

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One more thing Lihacs, Was Malhotra's dehumanizing comment not enough of "criticism" against gays for you? Doesnt he represent the side you want to have portrayed here?

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Sexual acts 'against the order of nature' remain illegal in India, though the government no longer seeks to prosecute adults engaging in private consensual homosexual acts

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I'm confused. Knowledge and many articles say that it's now legal throughout the country. However, the Associated Press reports the law change only applies to New Dehli

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There are whole section of advocacy. One line in the lead suffices for criticism? The legal status mentions demands for change but nothing on those opposing in india?

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the Supreme Court, but is actually a quotation from the 2009 decision by the Higher Court. Could someone please verify this and make the necessary changes?

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It was, but I pulled the quote out through JUDlS, which doesn't provide citations. I'll look it up. good rewrite of the following section, by the way. --

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Appeal, and see what the Supreme Court stays. If there is an appeal, however, 377 remains "void" until the Supreme Court states otherwise, if at all.

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The lawyer quoted is described as a "gay rights activist." So he might be framing the applicability issue in a way favorable to the gay rights cause.

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is taking the initiative on this project, you could invite them to help you out. There seems to be an awful lot of content at this article and at

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Looks pretty good - thanks for the effort! I'm just going to Indianise it a bit... Spelling and dates mostly and take a shot at a few other bits.

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Are you saying that a ruling on constitutional matters by any High Court in the country would bind all of the other High Courts to its decision?

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This false claim has been made by • Devdutt Pattanaik • Knowledge • Nathan McDermott in Washington Post • Vidula Chopra Rastogi in The Hindu

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WP:NOR. And again, I defer to the experts on Indian law here on how the final version should be written. The above are just my two cents. --

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This could mean that this judgement would read as an amendment to Section 377 unless the parliament formally changes the wording of the law.

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I'm having trouble reading the link with the full text of the decision, but it seems to me that the italicized section is NOT a statement

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Yes I had. Given he registered last month, I would assume good faith and think that whatever he is doing is not shocking from a newbie.

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There's no parliamentary supremacy in India (or at least none, in this issue). As of today the law has no effect in the entire country.

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The next part, " can be cited everywhere in the country. It is a precedent." would describe a strongly persuasive case just as aptly.

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The above 2 edits links to sources that advertize the cause. If one wants to make a statement then a source that doesn't have a

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Sex between two women, however, was never illegal, because it can’t be penetrative. Not without artificial assistance anyway!

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good question. This probably has to do with the Jurisdiction of the Delhi High Court. guess the AP report is more accurate. --

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I am not sure if your argument holds any relevance but you must stop adding sources that have no relation with this subject.

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yep, i know that was the case. but i do indeed have some recollection of opposition, i just dont remember the details.

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Does this statement not apply to interpretations of national law and/or interpretations of the national constitution?

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powers else it would indirectly apply to all of India since it would make prosecutions under this law impossible.

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to the top of Homosexuality in India, because you are proposing it be merged somewhere else. And the addition of:

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as the Bombay (or any other) HC, or the SC, upholds the validity of s. 377, the Delhi HC's judgement is good law

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I hope someone can purchase/borrow the book mentioned in the section, and add some more. It's still very meagre.

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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User:Florian Blaschke has also supported making these repeat topics redirect into the LGBT Rights in India page

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We already have lgbt rights in India and LGBT culture in India articles? Why is this re-posted rehash allowed?

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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Homosexuality in India is generally considered a taboo subject by both Indian civil society and the government.

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As per the above saying that the section is repealed because the HC in effect sent notice to re-discuss it is

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would claim that such vigilante executions are very common still I don't see how it would be due on lead.

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Or is it just the Delhi High Court that is uniquely able to strike down legislation passed by Parliament?

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The Times of India article is misleading, in that it confuses the effect of the Constitution of India's

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I just want to point out that the Delhi High Court has given a ruling to amend the Section 377 of the

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I agree. The applicability all over India should be shown as unknown and definitely legal for Delhi

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all over India, even if it's technically correct. This really must be made clear in the article.

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Yup, looks good - great going. I've reworded the succeeding section as well. Nice job with the

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Do nothing (besides fixing other legislation to take care of any gaps created by 377’s death)

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Looking at his recent contributions, he is certainly still engaging in problematic editing.

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been struck down as yet, and so remains valid. This probably needs a mention in the article.

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and others dont? If one is good for the entire country then you won't need multiple laws.(

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and stop referring to good-faith editors as vandals. Otherwise, you might find yourself

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Article 21, there's a decent chance it'll be covered by the basic structure doctrine. --

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Parliament creates laws; the Courts determine if these laws pass constitutional muster.

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is inaccurate. Please, do not make edits just made on the basis of few media reports. --

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Also the NY party is fringe and doesn't serve the whole topic of that says "in india."

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all over India, and no effort is made by the police to do a single thing about it.

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with the question of whether the decision of one High Court binds another or not. --

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may nullify this ruling. Also the jurisdiction of Delhi High Court would include the

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sources, all attest that the language in question does not occur in the Rig Veda.

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A paragraph at the end of this section reads (boldface and italics added by me):

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Homosexual behavior itself is not against the law, while the act technically is.

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If the above is correct then I think it's time to revert all of my edits. --

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ESPECIALLY considering the amount of sexual violence directed towards women.

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to follow it (it's very likely to, but legally speaking it doesn't have to).

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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add

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instead of the current wording that says it DOES NOT apply elsewhere.

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needs to be banned from editing topics related to LGBTQ and India.

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cannot contradict this ruling. The High courts in India have

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Vikriti Evam Prakriti (Sanskrit: विकृतिः एवम्‌ प्रकृति)

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I hope this much was still up to good standards. --

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