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When someone speeds up a sample to make a song they usually remake the bassline using live bass. When someone plays a melody on a keyboard, even those that are synths, thats technically live. Guitars, pianos, bass, brass is used widley in hip hop sense the mid 90s and espaiclly nowdays live music is everywhere.
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Women who serve as producers within the genre of Hip Hop should be mentioned in this article. Although their may be few well known female producers,Sylvia Robinson should be mentioned in this article due to her production contributions to the creation of "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang which
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To stop at the early 90's with equipment is to pretty much nullify all the software and great midi controllers that have revolutionized hip-hop production over the last 10 years. Software and midi controllers have brought the possibility of producing hip-hop to the masses thus stimulating diversity.
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Almost all that is stated under 'vocal recording' is true, except the sentence about condenser microphones. The 'dying' of condensers due to the loss of charge after years of service used to happen with electret type condenser mics only, and in recent years this problem has been solved by technology
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It was significant, specifically, not for the techno stuff but for the integration of electro. Bambaataa was the first electro hop. Also, you have the date for him wrong. He released Planet Rock before RUN-DMC released anything. As far as Run-DMC i'll do some research and get back to you on that
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What the hell is readup? And if you know something I don't, just add it to the section, that's how wikipedia works. Planet Rock kickstarted the techno scene on the East Coast, while other lesser known DJs started what would become detroit techno at the same time. As for Run-DMC, what is inaccurately
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The article gives a lot of credits to various producers and rappers, mentions a lot of specific drum machines and has a sloppy writing style ("...for snatching the eye of hip hop from Dr. Dre's more polished sound in 1993, with his more gritty sound with low rumbling bass..."). I expected an article
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Live instrumentation is rare? Thats false and is an over statement. Back when they were strictly sampling and looping breaks, but live insturmentation is any but rare in hip hip. Live instruments are very active in hip hp music and if anything are added to songs with samples, espsically bass lines.
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2. Drum machines and other digital equipment like synthesizers. This was introduced by Bambaataa I believe and is highly influential if you listen to production in the late 90s and later, e.g. Timbaland. One of the main reasons for its resurgence in popularity were the legal difficulties and high
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Like I said above, techno didn't take off until the mid-1980s. While the album release might not be the sole reason for it, the official first release of Bambaataa is not to be overlooked. As for the single, it's akin to 50 Cent's Disco Inferno, released long before the album and already hyped up
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3. Sampling/breaks. This is what interests me the most and it is integral to hip-hop from around 86-96. It also evolved into the more fractured choppy sound begun by Premo on songs like Full Clip, Nas is Like, When I B on the Mic, etc. There is a LOT that needs to be written about sampling. Does
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Hey everyone lets not forget that samples were originally made from live instruments. Lets also not forget how frequently live guitar is sampled in hip hop, such as many 80s groups that still had a funk\disco influence, and especially nowadays. Might wanna go listen to some of your collection
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used the mixer fade controls to switch between two turntables playing the identical records at different times. The result was that a section of a record could be effectively prolonged, the parallel to today's loop-based DAWs and hardware loop equipment.
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Glad somebody said it because I completely agree with the guy above. Despite the importance of the topic to modern music, the article is atrocious. It reads as if somebody with a mediocre knowledge of rap typed it up off the top of his head.
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There are many other kinds of production where the producer makes the instrumentation. I say this needs to be generalized to include all electronic music production, including various forms of techno, new wave, trance, DnB, Pop, etc.
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Are you serious? Rappers delight is probaly one of the biggest examples of sampling we have. The original sample "Good Times" by Chic most likely was but not Rappers delight which samples from it. If anything the bass was redone.
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presented? The fact that the two songs were the first of their kind to rely on drum machines? I've "read up" when I started writing this section, perhaps you want to do the same before you start pointing out arbitrary flaws. --
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The history should not be its own section. The various histories should be introduced inside the paragraphs on mixing, synthesizing or whatever(e.g the first guy to do this was...). A separate history section would be
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I think a three-to-four paragraphs section would be sufficient. I'm not sure if that demands a whole separate article however. Either way, the topic definately needs to be addressed --chub 06:57, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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Modulatum, you need to readup. It isn't explained what Planet Rock really accomplished as far as pioneering in hip-hop(and Run-DMC's production accomplishment is kind of inaccurately presented as well). Readup.
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Live instruments didn't originally play the samples, DJs did, and Rapper's Delight is a sample, they just claimed they used a live band, probably to avoid getting sued. The live band was a lie.
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Planet Rock was by no means some godly record. It served its purpose as a catalyst to the techno scene and faded into obscurity and hip-hop lore. As for Run-DMC, what is poorly explained?--
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I'm really suprised this article has nothing on the New Jack Swing era and Teddy Riley, as they were very critical moments in the development of hip hop as a popular genre.
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I also propose splitting the article into seperate "history of hip-hop production" and "technical aspects of hip-hop production". These articles are potentially very big.
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I wrote a bit to explain this. Earliest recorded hip-hop was with live bands because the record companies didn't think sampling/Djing was acceptable, as far as i know.
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This is one of the worst articles I've seen on wiki in almost every way. But I dont have the energy or compunction to argue about it. All I can do is tell you so.
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and his assisting producers ushered in a new style where entire sections of records were sampled, instead of short snippets. Records like "Warning" (
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There are an enormous amount of rap songs that do not feature samples of other artists. It is in no way critical to the song. --
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recorded "It's Like That" and "Sucker MCs," two songs which relied completely on beats, ignoring samples entirely. In 1986,
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They had more than a bass, I'm pretty sure. They had an entire studio band-- including drums, and all. No drum machine.--
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The MPC3000 was released in 1994, followed by the MPC2000 in 1997, and the MPC2000XL in 2000. With the 1994 release of
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anyone want to discuss it a little, so we can make a plan for a better resource on the history of hip-hop production?
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about music production, but it looks like some fanboy just wanted to write down the names of all his idols.
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Their significance is in the case of Planet Rock understated and in the case of RUN-DMC poorly explained.--
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What you fail to recognize is that Rapper's Delight used live instruments to play the Chic bassline.--
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Yeah but thats the album, not the single. By the way, I commented on your last.fm on the Edan entry.--
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The intro seems redundant. Hip hop producers obviously are the guys who do hip-hop production.--
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in my opinion, the topic does not really go in depth into the history and progression of the
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To avoid royalty fees, no less. It's still the same method of song recording.
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The first instruments used in hip-hop production were two turntables, a
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Mention of Planet Rock and whatever that shit revolutionized
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again, they tend to squeeze a guitar in quite a bit.
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Index


content assessment
WikiProjects
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Hip hop
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WikiProject Hip hop
hip hop
project page
discussion
Top
project's importance scale
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Professional sound production
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WikiProject Professional sound production
sound recording and reproduction
the discussion
Mid
project's importance scale
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Music/Music genres task force
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Music portal
Hip hop production
Music genres task force of the Music project
music genre
guidelines
assess and improve
good article status

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