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2514:, I think it's a little unfair to be putting the blame entirely on me for the failure of this GAN (and for the other one about Captain Gregory). You disappeared from this GAN and the other in June, and indeed have barely made an edit on Knowledge (XXG) since; had you shown a little more interest in pursuing these nominations, I might have been more diligent in responding to your concerns. And in fact I did leave the door open for you to pursue both these noms were you so inclined, and you turned the opportunity down. So I think it fair to say that their lack of progress hasn't just been due to
2414:, it has been over three months since the most recent post here, and aside from two inconsequential changes to the article (a single word and a new wikilink), nothing has been done. It's time for this to be concluded, one way or another, and I'd like to suggest a deadline no later than the end of September. There appear to be attributions and/or quote paraphrasing that Gatoclass needs to address, and if it isn't done, then Usernameunique will need to decide whether the article should be passed or failed in its current condition. Thank you both for giving this your attention.
2216:, both Getoclass and I have been suffering from some time constraints, although the present delay in this article is probably more attributable to me. While you're here, however, perhaps you wouldn't mind weighing in on the heavy use of unattributed quotations in this article. My general view is that most of the quotations should be either paraphrased or attributed; as I understand Gatoclass, he largely believes that the quotations are difficult to paraphrase, and that the in-line attributions cause clutter. The
2543:, I might add, appears to have been quite a common name for ships, given that they were named after a prominent Indian moghul. Additionally, Howe and Matthews are highly regarded sources and if even they didn't know what happened to the ship after it was sold to the British, chances are that nobody does. Perhaps if you were more familiar with ship histories, you would be aware that the later histories of a great many ships are not known, as they are inclined to sink ever deeper into obscurity as they age.
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ship articles to be explaining basic terms like "extreme clipper" and "tons burthen", otherwise you would have stacks of repetition in every such article encountered - this is what we have wikilinks for. Content for articles has to be on-topic, and digressions about every nautical term encountered in ship articles would soon make them unreadable.
2166:. I worked hard to add context to this article because it is often sorely lacking in the underlying references as the writers often seem to assume that the reader will know what they are talking about. But I think you've been of great assistance in helping identify some areas that still needed additional context, thank you for that!
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if I've had much time to devote to these. The bottom line with regard to this particular nomination, though, is that since starting it, I found a good additional source which will enable me to add quite a bit more detail, but that is going to take time and energy that I'm afraid I just don't have available at the moment.
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Finally, perhaps I should add that I unexpectedly became extremely busy off-wiki in late April, and just as I got through all the work and was ready to return to editing in early July, suffered a recurrence of a crippling back injury that I first had last year and was barely able to edit for the next
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referred to is the same ship. I also checked US and
British registers and found nothing more than is already in the article. It appears from the available sources that the ship was homeported in Singapore after its sale, and if a ship wasn't homeported in some Western country at this time in history,
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Update: I did some research on this, and there is very little information on it, though from what I've read, I glean that rolling topsails were an invention that allowed the crew to furl and unfurl the topmast from the deck, instead of having to go aloft to do it. None of the available online sources
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in the first case would be worthwhile, though it could be handled in a note rather than in-text attribution if the latter proves awkward. (There are already attributions in the notes, which seems to work.) The problem with the second one, a phrase from the
Fairburn source (and presumably by Fairburn
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I'm usually very thorough in my search for sources, and while this article was sitting in my sandbox for quite a while before I promoted it, my recollection is that I followed my usual procedures in writing it. Regardless, I have had another look through the usual places after you made this inquiry,
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been able to edit, it was largely to push forward with the ten GAN reviews of my own which I had to make a priority over my own two nominations. It's only in the last three or four weeks that I've been able to return to anything like normal editing, and even then only intermittently, so it's not as
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I think we generally agree on this point—the guy was a capable captain, and the evidence for that is that he set a bunch of records. In fact, I tended to read the wording about "Nearly 100 years later" as saying that he was still notable a century after setting sail. At any rate, I think it's worth
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The source includes the language, but without clicking over to the book it's unclear whether it's repeating what someone with firsthand knowledge said, or simply guessing that since the ship set records, its captain was capable. See what you think of my edit, which I think makes it more clear where
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I don't see the need to cite every source in the article itself per
Harvard, when the quote itself is already cited to a source, which is directly accessible with a link. The reason I directly quoted is because I couldn't think of an improvement on "fast sizeable ships" - it's pretty succinct after
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Yes, definitely worth a footnote I think. Thank you BTW for pushing me on this point - I had asked myself what the heck a "rolling topsail" might be but decided not to bother trying to source it as it would likely prove too obscure, so your prod forced me to find out! The average reader, I'm sure,
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I think you are making a big assumption that the claim originates with the owner - that would be OR. Adding "including the ship's owner" would tend to cast undue doubt on the claim I think. "Owners" after all are not "authorities", and it's hard to imagine that leading sources such as
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What's interesting is that the sources all clearly hedge the language—it's always "Some authorities claimed" or "Some authorities maintain", while the NYT puts the language in italics, as if to say its not their claim. It seems highly likely that it was a claim offered by the ship's builder/owner,
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I'm closing this for the reasons discussed above. There are numerous unresolved minor issues above. There are also the many quoted phrases that lack attributions. Although this is not a big deal by itself, the more serious issue is the fact that it is clear that far more sources potentially exist
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Yes, everything went around the cape at this time, that may be worthwhile clarifying. As for cargo - definitely, passengers, almost certainly, though I was unable to confirm it - thousands wanted to get to the goldfields at this time. Unfortunately, there is zero information in any of the sources
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If you are not familiar at all with ship articles from the age of sail, you are going to encounter a bit of a learning curve. I've been playing about in this field for some years and have barely scratched the surface when it comes to nomenclature. Having said that, it is not the job of individual
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Fairburn here doesn't make as much sense as where he is introduced later in the article; perhaps that also could be in a note. However, this one might indeed be better as a paraphrase—the quote isn't needed to get across that Very was an effective captain.
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nice-looking article here, but please could you detail in the body who it was that said
Hurricane was the most extreme clipper? It's fine for the DYK hook, and even probably the lead, to say "reputedly", but the body itself shoudl actually say who it was that made these claims, per
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Within the first 10 words are two terms I didn't know until clicking on the links: extreme clipper and tons burthen. Perhaps the first could be explained somewhere (second sentence?)? As to the tons burthen, is that really first-sentence worthy, or could it go elsewhere in the
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Also, with regard to your claim that I have failed to adequately research this topic, I stand by what I said earlier, which is that I was unable to find any later sources that unambiguously refer to this ship. The handful of references you found to a ship called
1948:— Nothing at all? Are there no newspaper reports or the like? After all, the source used for this statement is nearly 100 years old; surely more evidence could have been found in this time. A very cursory look on newspapers.com revealed several mentions, such as
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are sufficiently clear however. As luck would have it, I managed to track down one sole volume that looks as if it might have a full definition, but may not be able to get my hands on it for some weeks, so this will have to be something I attend to later.
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Cutler is a major figure in US marine historiography. Since he's so well known and ubiquitous to articles of this type, it would seem patronizing to me to give his full name (which of course is right there in the source for those who want to know
1678:— Any more details on the Cape Horn incident? Also, the current wording—"but was beset" by XY&Z ailments—makes it sound as if it was going to be a much worse crossing voyage than the first, when it turns out it was only three days slower.
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regarding the ship's post-1857 history than the nominator has uncovered. The article could very likely become a good article with some effort; certainly, however, it can't with a nominator who admittedly "don't care about this GAN." --
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in the 1860s are linked to the topic of this article only by the name and period, and that alone just isn't enough, as ships with the same name often operate at the same time. Indeed, newspaper records show that there was a ship named
2482:, I am more than happy to close this as I don't have time to work on it right now, but have also decided it needs considerably more work before being renominated. So if it's all the same to Usernameunique, it's fine by me to close it.
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In belated response to the question above: if there is a quote, it should be cited inline, and those citations definitely need to be included in a GA-level article per the criteria. As it says in the second paragraph of the
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one as I only started them both to try and stay in the
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2198:, where does this nomination stand? It's been three weeks since this page was last touched, though there have been some edits made to the article within the past week. Can we get this moving again? Many thanks.
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Sounds good. That's pretty interesting, and probably worthy of a post-GAN footnote (or even a stub) when you track down the book. Also, anything you can use (with regards to rolling topsails or otherwise) from
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With that said, would you mind providing your views on a) the use of unattributed quotations here, and b) the extent to which this should be a relevant concern at the good-article nomination stage? Thanks,
1390:, a reviewer "may also make suggestions for further improvements". The relevance to the current GAN is thus that I'm making a suggestion that to further improve the article, red links be added if worthy. --
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The bow was decorated with a "very handsome" eagle's head, which had a ribbon flowing from its mouth upon which was inscribed the ship's name in gilt letters, the whole creating "a very novel appearance."
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that contain the typo, or do other types of sources as well? If the latter, how many? And I suppose it's too much to ask for that there's actually a source out there which independently notes the typo...
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It seems to me that most such instances should either be paraphrased or given in-text attribution; but this is not quite as clear cut as whether they should be cited (which they unquestionably should).
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are almost certainly references to that ship. But even if they are not, there is no way to differentiate between the two vessels and thus these mentions are useless as references for this article.
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and again I was unable to come up with anything. The two articles you cite above were the only ones I found at newspapers.com myself, and they can't be used because it isn't at all clear that the
2340:. I was actually wondering about the use of in-text attribution, not citations. The quotations in question are cited; however, the text does not explain who is being quoted. Some examples are:
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Well written new article and long enough. No image issues. The hook is interesting and inline cited. The article is neutral and no copyright issues detected. QPQ has been done. Good to go.
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Got it, I didn't realize "built of live oak" was likely a reference to the hull. See what you think about this rewording to ditch the basic quotation: "and a top made of live oak and
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It's already linked in the lead and the infobox, so I saw no need for an additional link. Nor do I see any need to explain what an extreme clipper is in this article—that's what the
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2275:, friendly reminder about this review. The most significant outstanding issues are the many quotations without in-text attribution, and the possibility that information about the
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clarifying what exactly the evidence of his capability is. What about something like: "Under Captain Very Jr.'s command,
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1824:— According to who? When was it qualled or beat?
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1807:— Called Calcutta at the time, no?
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1727:Ballast#In commercial shipping
1594:resumed her journey 9 February
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2507:06:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
2492:04:31, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
2475:22:46, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
1650:— Who says so/on what basis?
938:and frame and "live oak and
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2726:C-Class New Jersey articles
2403:Time to conclude the review
2370:Ah. Thanks for explaining,
1620:At the equator - clarified.
389:this nomination's talk page
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1848:No, the source gives none.
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1895:Captain Ichabod Sherman
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1931:— Who bought the ship?
1712:— What does this mean?
1630:— Who described it so?
1551:— Anything to link to?
1549:mizzen topgallant mast
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1841:— Any more details?
1831:Source doesn't say.
1561:Now linked, thanks.
1026:— What authorities?
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