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I know that OV/VM was an "upgrade" of PROFS. The impression I get is that IBM's strategy was confused, and they were pressured to get a cross-platform product by SAA. However someone who knows more about DISOSS needs to chime in here. We used both PROFS and OV/VM, but never DISOSS on out MVS system.
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I don't have any "real" IBM OfficeVision screen captures since I never used the program, but I have seen a book that feature the PROFS main menu. Is it OK to recreate a likeness using a word processor, or is that a copyright infringement type of deal? Would IBM get upset at something like:
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IBM office systems that may be connected through DISOSS to OfficeVision/MVS series, are OV/VM, OV/400, PS/CICS, PS/TSO, PS/PC, PROFS, and other Mail Systems Supporting SNADS and DIA. Only a single copy of DISOSS needs to be installed somewhere in the network to accomplish the
493:"A similar fate awaits IBM’s Profs and DisOSS mainframe systems; post-September 1990, Profs will become OfficeVision/VM, and DisOSS OfficeVision/MVS, both similarly equipped with iconic interfaces – it is what is known as conversion by stealth." 458:
Unfortunately, I have no first-hand knowledge or experience of any of these systems. But the article right now implies that OV/MVS is a successor to DISOSS just as OV/VM is a successor to PROFS, whether or not that is true. I believe this book
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OPPOSE: Not that familiar with DISOSS. OV/MVS was (is?) similar to OV/VM (PROFS). The impression I get is thst DISOSS is a backend document repository for various disparate systems. Maybe IBM bundled DISOSS and OV/MVS.
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needs to Wikilink to one of them, but at least for now I'm not proposing a merge. My opinion holds for both FAULT and PROFs/OV/DIS - leave separate for now, at least until each is individually improved.
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It's saying that PROFS and DISOSS were separate products, but that their destiny was somehow linked. Although neither article has much detail, I see this like the matter of
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I think there's more to the menu than what I can see there... there was a photocopy I made of a book about 3270 emulation, but I can't remember where it is right now.
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Good catch, Jimj wpg. I suspect PROFSPROFS was a cut and paste error. It does not appear in the cited source, just PROFS. I corrected it in the article. Cheers, --
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merge on the grounds that these seems sufficiently distinct to warrant separate discussion; there is certainly no consensus for a merge, and discussion is stale.
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First of all, the PROFs name was used by media in 1990, and had nothing to do with DISOSS, a separate product. Second, A May 1989 newsbrief item said:
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I got this from a screenshot of the 3270 Workstation Program from Jim Hoskins IBM Personal System/2: A Business Perspective.
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explains it all, if anyone has access to a copy (I don't.) (Nearest library to me having a copy is 700 km away.)
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My understanding is that OfficeVision is more closely related to PROFS. I don't know much about DISOSS.
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I have never seen reference to a PROFSPROFS before, just PROFS. Does this need to be corrected?
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I noticed a possible vandalism or typo in one of the paragraphs in the article:
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I believe that IBM DISOSS is just a former name for IBM OfficeVision/MVS.
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The article notes the system started on VM, so was it
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
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I've worked in places where Office Vision ran under
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