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I agree about the need for revamp. I came to the page looking for info on the Basque influence on
Spanish. There's a good-sized section on this which basically says that the attribution of the f to h transformation to the Basque substrate is unfounded, but no other effects of the Basque substrate are
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This statement is blatantly untrue as well as poorly sourced... (wiktionary most commonly dubbed words on movies?) Its a waste of my time for me to disprove this as a native spanish speaker. But, to avoid further argument, here is a list of ONLY very frequently used words in
Spanish of Arabic origin
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I am not 100% sure, but I believe that the repetition of syllables for adding degrees of magnitude is derived from
Nahuatl grammar. Example; in Nahuatl, "Choca" means to cry, Chochoca means to cry profusely. "Chiquito" in spanish means "Smal", but "Chiquitito" means very small, while "Chiquititito"
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Sminthopsis84's reversion, and likewise am convinced this IP editor is an anonymous sockpuppet of Sonia Murillo Perales, who has been blocked indefinitely. If correct, that in itself is sufficient reason to remove all their edits, but even without such policy, long experience with this
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I don't like to embarrass an individual, but an editor known only as "79.159.238.252" has recently been making this article (and others) incomprehensible by inserting language that can only be called "broken
English". I think "79" means well, but his/her English isn't up to the job of editing in
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A statement like this needs to be supported by reference to an authoritative source, and I doubt you will find a source more authoritative than the
Dictionary of the Spanish Royal Academy or the etymological dictionaries of Joan Corominas, all of which derive "hermano" from the Latin source "
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10% from Gothic seems like an awful lot. Is it really that much? Also, the vocabulary may be like that but not all words are used as much, so the real percentage of words used by people is much different. I think Latin may account for well over 90% of all words used, because it includes very
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of sources, so that the information is actually factually incorrect, and anyone trying to copyedit and assimilate the additions of this editor, is possibly just making many falsehoods more legible. If they persist in trying to edit articles in this fashion, consider re-opening the sockpuppet
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Umbrian influence in the intro section??? No mention of basque lexical influence (izquierda for example?), no mention of Greek or explanation of Latin basis of language, illogical listing order (should be either based on importance or chronological...
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The current IP has been inactive for almost a day, but even if the person has moved on to another address, I wonder if reopening the sockpuppet investigation may be a necessary component of speedily justifying the mass removal of this time-wasting material.
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The idea is NOT having a list of borrowings, repeat, NOT A LIST, but an overview with some examples, focused on general influences (for example, "English has loaned many words pertaining to the field of computers"). Opinions of the
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the cited sources etc. It's a problem that spans several areas of the wiki and, if possible, needs addressing in a more systematic way than has been done previously, seeing as the problem editor keeps on popping up like a phoenix.
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Spanish words are definitely from the German, with only a slight change of Romaniztaion. They mean "Brother (o)", and "Sister (a)" They need to be included in the section of Germanic influences.
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for many more examples. Can we—those of us who care about these articles—together ask "79" to get some help with his/her
English, or to go to the Knowledge (XXG) in his/her native language and edit there?
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The problem from this one set of sock-puppets is clearly bigger than we have been able to deal with so far, and more contributors would be very welcome. For example, there is an interesting discussion on
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