Talk:Israel–Hamas war/Archive 17

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happens from here, other crimes against humanity, such as those relating to killing (murder and extermination) (7(1)(a-b)). ... Israel being bound by the law of international armed conflict would entail that civilians are protected by the lengthier ICC code of war crimes applicable under that conflict classification, as compared to the list of war crimes applicable in non-international armed conflict. The former includes the war crime of starvation of civilians as a method of warfare (ICC Statute, article 8(2)(b)(xxv). In non-international armed conflict, that crime was incorporated into the ICC Statute by amendment in 2019, but the amendment has not yet been ratified by Palestine. Regardless, Israel is bound by the customary prohibition of starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, which the government itself has recognized, as I explain below. Moreover, the 2019 ICC amendment reflects recognition that it is a customary war crime in both forms of conflict (here pp. 687, 701-710).

3433:, uh no they were not. That no Israeli was ever held accountable for those war crimes does not change that they were, repeatedly, found to be war crimes by experts in international law. But, again, what we do here is look for expert views and relay those with the weight accorded to them in reliable sources. If you would like to disprove a reliable source you can start a blog and do that. This is not that blog however, and debating the real world topic is not the purpose of a Knowledge talk page. If you have sources that are directly related to this topic then bring them, if not then please stop asking others to ignore our policies for your amusement. 2316: 31: 1030: 1652: 2562:"Dozens of experts in international law from Israel and the world stated that in its action nine days ago, Hamas committed crimes against humanity and war crimes. In the opinion, prepared at the request of the headquarters for the return of the kidnapped hostages, it is written that "under the circumstances of the matter, it is very likely to assume that the actions of Hamas also amount to a war crime of genocide." 2954: 3336:“Any time that white phosphorus is used in crowded civilian areas, it poses a high risk of excruciating burns and lifelong suffering,” said Lama Fakih, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch. “White phosphorous is unlawfully indiscriminate when airburst in populated urban areas, where it can burn down houses and cause egregious harm to civilians.” 1481:

now denies all involvement; the US establishment agrees with the Leader and rushes to agree that he had nothing to do with this. Weapons of mass destruction, anyone? The Israelis, who are a US client state, toe the US headline, while subtly undermining it with contrarian facts. Also noteworthy: Hezbollah confirms Iran’s participation. Quotable quotes from the NYT:

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call to a ref name that no longer existed!, so the ref gave error. I searched for a prior version that still had a named ref and pasted it and thought it somewhow was still the BBC ref because it did mention the BBC but alas! it was totally wrong. Again I appreciate being called on this inadvertent error and the proper BBC ref is now presented as intended. Cheerio,

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straightforward NPOV violation. Collective punishment is a war crime, using access to water as a weapon is a war crime, but you are couching those crimes as "potential" and "alleged" and so on. Yes, obviously attacking civilians is a war crime, and I dont have a problem saying that in the narrative, but your re-write makes statements of facts from the

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water in Khan Yunis, as discussed in the article. Lastly, the context for the “forced relocation” language clearly shows that it does not apply to evacuations for the purpose of saving civilian life in a war zone. (Nor would a prohibition on that practice serve any reasonable objective or purpose for the laws of war.)

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It's not for editors to prove the truth or untruth of the conduct of Israel or Hamas constituting war crimes. You may disagree whether some of the events that have transpired are war crimes, but you don't have room to disagree that allegations of war crimes have been made by major human rights groups

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Isnt better to name it "Israeli-palestinian war" or " Israeli- Gazan war" at least. Hamas are not the only fighters participating in this war. There are other militias. I know many of the western media are calling it "Israeli-hamas war" but It think the whole name is misnomer and ignores the role of

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The 9/11 article should use "suicide attack" instead to make it clear that it is not meant to convey scale. There were many features of 9/11 that were analytically significant, like being a suicide attack. These two events can't be compared in any meaningful way, other than the point about population

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audio reviewed by The Times of an April discussion among members of the Revolutionary Guards, including those involved with proxies in the region, a speaker said, “The message that is being communicated from Iran these days to the resistance is that we showcase a military maneuver to make the Zionist

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who said: "WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim for which there are not yet the amount of RS". I entirely disagree. I can provide additional sources such as the WSJ which say the same thing as the BBC. So please do not remove the current statement supported by the BBC unless (a) people fail to provide the sources

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This order commands the starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, which is a violation of international humanitarian law and a war crime (ICC Statute, article 8(2)(b)(xxv)). It may also satisfy the legal threshold for the crime against humanity of inhumane acts (7(1)(K)) and, depending on what

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Dan Eldad, who served as Israel’s acting state attorney from February to May 2020 and who helped put the letter together, told The Times of Israel that it may have key diplomatic value should Israel seek to persuade other countries or international organizations that remain on the fence to come down

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Sources tend to name attacking groups based on their size and level of coordination, not how much terror they instill. Guerilla wars often involve attacks that would be described as terrorism if carried out by individuals or small groups; but they are called irregular militias or guerilla groups. In

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You forget that thousands of Palestinians were killed in Gaza, civilians, women and children. We were fighting for 75 years during occupation, but no one listened to us. PLO had long negotiations with Israel, but Israel continue to do all kinds of crimes. The international community should focus the

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Andreas, the word "support" can mean lots of things, including merely verbal support. Without additional details it is impossible to tell. Generally, in-depth and comprehensive coverage is preferable to sources that make drive-by remarks without clarifying what exactly they mean. So far we only have

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more authoritative. However, it has been shadow-edited, which (when other publications do it) is ground for Knowledge demerits and inclusion on its "Perennial Sources" little black list of unwelcome media, deprecated or otherwise less worthy media. Therefore, I would extend that criterium and say:

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There is something odd about this BBC quote. Firstly, they don't actually give a verbatim quote of what Hamad said and in what context. "Backing" can mean anything, from active involvement to abetting to moral support. I wasn't able to find audio or video either. But what gives me even more pause is

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Well, it's fair to say that there is a great deal of speculation on Iran's involvement, without a clear picture at the moment. This is reaffirmed by media statements attributed to U.S. intelligence officials. So in that context, probably best to leave it out of the lead and have a fuller description

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For example, it's sourced and statable in Wiki voice that Hamas fired rockets into Israel. It's sourced and statable in Wiki voice that allegations exist calling this the war crime of an indiscriminate attack against a civilian area. We should avoid saying in Wiki voice "Hamas committed a war crime

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Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas's Saturday surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah Details of the operation were refined during several meetings in Beirut attended by IRGC

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Funny article. Thanks. Per it, you have yet another named Hamas guy, Ali Barakeh, saying Iran was involved; four Iranian government dudes telling you they helped plan the thing and arm Hamas, contradicting their boss, the Supreme Leader, who on Oct 3rd all but telegraphed the whole thing, but who

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We are in agreement here. But we have been prominently featuring Ghazi Hamad's statement in the article for days now, and it seems to me we are making a poor source do a lot of work here. Remember, he is the only named source in our article for this entire Iranian conspiracy theory which – for what

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The BBC source says "A Hamas spokesperson earlier told the BBC that the militant group had backing from its ally, Iran, for its surprise attacks on Israel, saying it was a source of pride. Ghazi Hamad told the World Service's Newshour programme that other countries had also helped Hamas, but he did

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The videos show the opposite of the obscurant being used over currently populated zones. They show it being used over open fields etc. If you know of other videos, please share. The passage about starvation is inapposite if measures were specifically taken to evacuate the affected area and provide

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The Israeli airstrikes are more complicated; sources don't agree that these are indiscriminate attacks against civilian populations. As such we would be in violation of NPOV to present them as fact; instead, to comply with NPOV, we need to present them as allegations that there is no consensus on.

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Is only true if that's not what sources do, and it is what sources do; they treat crimes by Hamas as fact, and crimes by Israel as allegations - and that is somewhat expected, as the crimes by Israel are less clear cut than the crimes by Hamas. Exceptions exist, with sources treating them as fact,

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But not the UN security council. I think it's a fair thing to point out, and I don't think the UN's statements are consistent with NPOV. The US for example veto's condemnations of Israel that do not also condemn Hamas for what they describe as terrorism and the killing of civilians, which became a

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I might append something along the lines of "it was not clear how much of the August thru October Iran-Hamas joint planning sessions in Beirut and subsequent execution on the ground in Israel differed from the regular guidance and weapons supply Iran provides to Hamas." The truth is, we just don't

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said what he said on two BBC articles which remain published. The fact it fails to deny can only mean one thing: it takes it as good. Analogy: Adams also fails to deny the Earth is round in this article, so whether the article is "authoritative" or not, it simply has no beef with the Earth being

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There is no reasonable interpretation of the “original research” requirement where citations to treaties and their governing interpretations is either “original” or “research.” It is just a superior form of citation. The “experts” you refer to, or their predecessors, made similarly absolute legal

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commands the starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, which is a violation of international humanitarian law and a war crime (ICC Statute, article 8(2)(b)(xxv)). It may also satisfy the legal threshold for the crime against humanity of inhumane acts (7(1)(K)) and, depending on what happens

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Honestly, I don't know what to make of it. The BBC might have withdrawn the statement because they felt it was being misinterpreted. They might have withdrawn it because whoever first paraphrased Hamad did a poor job. (It's really unfortunate that they didn't quote him verbatim, and don't seem to

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I have fixed it and pasted the correct BBC ref from an earlier version of the article. Again I apologize. What had happened is this: people had moved the BBC ref to the infobox, then deleted the content together with the ref, then modified main text and just prior to my intervention there was a

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I don't agree that they're less clear cut, but how the article discusses it can be. It would be best practice to assert in Wiki voice the reality of the allegations, and include the attributed statements. Including relevant information about well sourced events relevant to the war crimes can and

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When executed in the context of Islamic jihad, the function of the razzia was to weaken the enemy's defenses in preparation for his eventual conquest and subjugation. Since the typical razia was not sufficiently numerous to achieve military or territorial objectives, it usually involved surprise

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Third, the Wall Street Journal agreed with the two BBC articles and with Ghazi Hamad, reporting: "Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s Saturday surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas A

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Heh! Great catch! That right there is proof of the desperate interference being run to disassociate Iran from the situation, most likely by the US government. Amusing: Rule, Britannia! But interesting as your find is, that's not the reference being used. The references are listed above, are

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This should be reported under international reactions or under muslim world(whichever is more appropriate). People are boycotting mcdonalds for providing meals to israili forces. mcd has also received a ton of backlash and has been forced to lock its social media accounts on X.A large crowd of

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The link is at the end of the sentence on the lead a Hamas spokesman said Iran gave support which is what it’s based on if another Hamas spokesman denies this then they can just be put side by side in the page but the wiki page is changing a lot and I haven’t checked on it I don’t know how it’s

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That's absurd. There is nothing particularly special about 9/11, other than showiness. In fact, the murder of 3,000 civilians in NYC out of a population of 300 million is proportionally a much smaller-scale event than the murder of 1,000 civilians out of a population of 9 million. So if

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Also I think you misinterpret the source above. Safavi said "We support the proud operation of Al-Aqsa Flood", notice the present tense of "support". The probably interpretation here is that Iran is praising the attack, we can't interpret Safavi as saying that Iran materially supported the

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statements in the wake of, e.g., Operation Opera and Operation Cast Lead, and those statements were later called seriously into question by the legal community. That is why my request was for specific law. In either case, you are free to cite directly to the relevant law, if you are able.

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Israel had resorted to "indiscriminate military attacks against the already exhausted Palestinian people of Gaza" ... violence that indiscriminately targets innocent civilians, whether by Hamas or Israeli forces. This is absolutely prohibited under international law and amounts to a war

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if you want to not attribute war crime allegations then do it consistently. You are accepting as fact HRW in one section and portraying it as merely opinion in another. Im fine removing those attributions, but the idea that only crimes by Hamas should be said in the narrative voice is a

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Whilst I agree in principle that WSJ and BBC are unimpeachable RS, it is possible that the BBC felt obliged to remove the claim taken from the WSJ story after questions were raised about its probity. For example, a former Reuters exec publicly accused the WSJ reporter of fabricating the

2674:, Times of Israel. What I want to know is where this statement released by "over 100 experts on international law" is. Was it released in Hebrew or something? I sure can't find it. I'm not contending that it doesn't exist, but I'd like the original statement to be cited in the article. 1351:(you'd better quote it completely). Also it's talking about "pledge". Nothing more, nothing less. Then I have to repeat again, "“extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”. None of what have been presented so far can be counted as a suitable evidence for this purpose. -- 1224:, for reference) does not mention Ghazi Hamad or the BBC at all. It only cites unnamed "senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah", and a "European official and an adviser to the Syrian government". As far as I can see, everybody else just reported what the WSJ (and BBC) said. 201:. Unfortunately, neither of these articles appears to directly link to a BBC story. I think a direct link to an interview would meet a threshold for inclusion in the lead, as long as the language closely reflected what was in that report. Can we find that BBC story? -- 1379:, and I quote here, "Yahya Rahim Safavi, pledged Iranian support to the Hamas operation against Israel"? Wowza. Look, when an official means of communication of a government says something, they mean that's what that government means to say. And then when secondary 1217:

Ghazi Hamad, a Hamas spokesman, reportedly told the BBC that the group had direct backing for the attack from Iran. The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that Iranian security officials helped with the planning and approved the attack at a meeting in Beirut last

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The Commission is gravely concerned with Israel’s latest attack on Gaza and Israel’s announcement of a complete siege on Gaza involving the withholding of water, food, electricity and fuel which will undoubtfully cost civilian lives and constitutes collective

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Israel warned the population of North Gaza to evacuate to the South, causing around 1 million Palestinians, nearly half of the population of Gaza, to be internally displaced, despite Hamas calling on residents to stay put in their homes and set up roadblocks.

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The United Nations reported that around 1 million Palestinians, nearly half of the population of Gaza, have been internally displaced. Israel ordered the evacuation of 1.1 million Gazans, while Hamas called on residents to stay put in their homes and set up

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have published the actual audio/video of Hamad). Or Hamad might well have said explicitly that Iran helped with planning etc., and all of this is, like you say, an attempt to put the toothpaste back in the tube to avoid further escalation. What do you think,

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There is no circularity. Do not conflate the small articlet ("card", the WSJ calls it) you cited above, where the WSJ merely reports on what the BBC reported, with the full in-depth WSJ article, with 3 authors, which not only cites Hamas sources, but also

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Regarding the rocket attacks, it's not just allegations; sources agree that these are indiscriminate attacks against civilian populations, and that such attacks are war crimes. To comply with NPOV we can't just discuss these as allegations; these are

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Paul Adams is mainly relying on WSJ, right? I think WSJ's allegations should be included, but only in article not in lead, along with plenty of evidence we have against WSJ allegations coming not just from Hamas and Iran, but also from Israel and the

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Hamas spokesman Ghazi Hamad told the BBC that Hamas had direct backing for the attack from Iran;, and European and Syrian officers corroborated Iran's involvement, while senior Hamas official Mahmoud Mirdawi said the group planned the attacks on its

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Can switch the positions of "X Israelis killed" and "X Palestinians killed"? because they are right next to the large column for Palestinians killed so one would associate this large column with the top sentence "X Israelis killed" at first glance

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I find that statement too strong, and too keen to leave the reader with the impression it is established that Iran planned this. Moreover, we seem to have lost the statement from US officials and Blinken disagreeing with the Wall Street Journal.

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Yupp, this attack is absolutely rooted in genocidal intentions. Don't say that to Wikipedians, though, they'll dismiss it and delete it. Just like they keep deleting our criticisms here of the article. This a disgrace and completely shameless.

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Due to concerns raised over the differing y-axis on two graphs, comparing Israeli and Palestinian deaths, I've combined the two. Feel free to modify or use as you see fit. This is my first graph, so if I've made any errors, please let me know.

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The white phosphorus comment has been alleged but not confirmed. There are other oxidising agents used in munition explosives that have a similar heavy smoke patterned with powered aluminium. It would be worth stating it is not verified, only

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Actually, the NYT title originally used "terrorists", NYT changed it to "gunmen", and then changed it back. Which is why I've said we should slow things down. Anyhow, I had a "s" at the end of sources, indicating preponderance of RS. See

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Hamas Attack on Israel Brings New Scrutiny of Group’s Ties to Iran – Officials from Iran and Hezbollah helped plan the attack, people familiar with the operation said, but the U.S. and its allies have not found evidence directly linking

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I think that citing international law experts on this subject is a good idea. UN has lost any credibility because one of the permanent members of UN security council is Russia, a country that committed countless war crimes in Ukraine.

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You are literally just saying that without any type of evidence at all. What source has disagreed the order to withhold water is a war crime? What source has disagreed the usage of white phosphorous in populated areas is a war crime?

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Then the BBC twice further reports this fact. Then The WSJ reports that the planning for the attacks was jointly held in Beirut by Iran, Hizbollah and Hamas, and this is confirmed by Europeans and by Syrians. It's all quite clear.

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No, citing directly the law is original research. You are asking us to discount the expert views for your own view, or mine, which is that of a random person on the internet. We dont do that. As far as the laughably silly claim

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Because one of the BBC articles simply says Iran "supports" the attacks without specifying whether this support is merely verbal or material. If it meant material it would have provided some details, so it appears to be merely

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Right now, if someone doesn't read the text in the middle, they could get the impression that the blue (labeled Israel) is how many people Israel killed and the orange (labeled Palestine) is how many people Palestine killed.

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It's because this is a century-long geopolitical issue with heated debate on both sides and using the word "terrorism" would be taking a side. 9/11 was something else, where there is no context or justification for the act.

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told the BBC that Hamas had direct backing for the attack from Iran;, and European and Syrian officers corroborated Iran's involvement, while senior Hamas official Mahmoud Mirdawi said the group planned the attacks on its

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is correct. We do not have sufficient weight of sources to justify the use of the term 'terrorist' without attribution. I think we can trust readers to understand murder is bad without recourse to contentious terms.

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That Iran funds Hamas in general is well known. There is nothing specific there about the Oct 7 attack. That would be as misleading as including all countries which sell weapons to Israel as being involved in this

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I know, but I'm looking for the original source that the TOI was reporting on. We have the original UN statement by their own experts, for comparison, but here only the news report about this separate statement.

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is a semi-official news agency in Iran associated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps". Are you really proposing that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard lied that military adviser to the Iran Supreme Leader

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Yeah, I know that BBC article is not the reference currently being used in the article. But it is a more recent and arguably more authoritative BBC article covering that question than our current BBC sources:

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Please state the specific legal authority which prohibits those tactics unconditionally. E.g. white phosphorus used in unpopulated areas as an obscurant of troop movements is unequivocally NOT a war crime.

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policy because the UN would constantly condemn Israel but not the people killing and targeting Israeli civilians (and the organization whose stated purpose is the destruction of the state of Israel).

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I am proud that there are many countries who help us. Iran help us. Other countries they help us, either with money, or with weapons, with political support, with everything, it is alright, to do that.

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why would no one ever describe the perpetrators of the Sept 11 attacks as militants, but the page describing Hamas massacres and terror uses the term militants rather than terrorists? This is bias

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that the BBC itself withdrew the claim from its dedicated article on the question of Iranian involvement. Have a look at the earliest and latest versions of this article in the Internet Archive:

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officers A European official and an adviser to the Syrian government, however, gave the same account of Iran's involvement in the lead-up to the attack as the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members

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The sources do not say that Israel "ordered the evacuation of 1.1 million Gazans", it was only a warning to evacuate to the south. Chronologically the warning came before the evacuation.

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Irrelevant, as it is some local franchises obeying their authority. This would be like reporting about some small grocery shop giving free food to local population in times of crisis.

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European official and an adviser to the Syrian government, however, gave the same account of Iran’s involvement in the lead-up to the attack as the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members".

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Wow, that reference is a good find: straight from the horse's mouth! Yes, of course it should be included, also. I don't think we should paper over the conflicting statements.

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there are no details in the Times of Israel article. What did Hamas say exactly? Also what about the interview in which Hamas explicitly denied receiving any support from Iran? (

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To be Clear, why cannot comment be made within the article that forcing people from their land and bombing their homes to dust is not 'self-defense' - but a SS style genocide?

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so many in muslim majority countries called to boycott mac forcing the franchise in these countries to post a statement that they don't have any relation with isreali franchise

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can someone add mcdonald's boycott under the reaction section in muslim world.isreali franchise begin provide free meals to Israeli soldiers following the outbreak of war

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For clarity, when I said "the reality of the allegations" I mean "the reality of the existence of the allegations" or "the reality that the allegations have been made".

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The Economist has reported today that both Hamas and the IDF deny direct Iranian involvement in the initial attack, notwithstanding Iran's general support for Hamas.

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by firing rockets into Israel." I'm sure you would find it problematic to state in Wiki voice, "Israel committed a war crime by indiscriminately bombing civilians."

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I think the IDF denial in particular ought to be included in the article alongside the Hamas and Iranian denials. It is relevant that both sides are in agreement.

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I've questioned that decision below. It looks like it was collateral damage from trying to edit through an edit conflict, but they've yet to respond to a ping. —

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Note also that the article isn't equivocating about the conduct of Hamas in the war crimes section or going into hypothetical legal defenses of their actions.

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That would be true if you only had the BBC's interview with the Hamas spokesman, but remember: you also have the European officials, the Syrian officials, and

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https://www.lexpress.fr/monde/proche-moyen-orient/gilles-kepel-la-razzia-du-hamas-marque-une-victoire-pour-lislamisme-frero-chiite-BATUJBY4ERFY3JNGNT4PGHNGOE/

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top military adviser to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, pledged Iranian support to the Hamas operation against Israel

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claims should be backed by "multiple high-quality sources". There is no evidence raised by the sources saying Iran was involved in this specific operation. --

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In line with stuff I've seen in other places on wikipedia, should we add up the numbers in the casualties of both sides to create a total casualties number?

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My feeling is we should follow the approach of CNBC (cited in the article), who put a "reportedly" into their sentence ("reportedly told the BBC"). Regards,

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I know I read and have access to an independent WSJ source (which was earlier in the article, added by someone else) which fully corroborates the BBC source.

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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-rockets-attack-palestinians/card/hamas-says-attacks-on-israel-were-backed-by-iran-kb2ySPwSyBrYpQVUPyM9

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I think at the moment it is a little premature to try and judge the importance of this statement – we will need to see how it's covered outside Israel.

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I believe that what whoever meant was that Iran was involved, not Hamas said Iran was involved. You clearly are correct and this should be corrected.

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Wow! The reference is wrong. Meant to repair a ref. to the BBC, but must have pasted in error. Apologies. Will fix in the next 5 minutes. Sorry!

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Im fine removing those attributions, but the idea that only crimes by Hamas should be said in the narrative voice is a straightforward NPOV violation

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it's worth – has been roundly contradicted by Blinken and other US officials who have been saying they have seen no evidence of Iranian involvement.

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At this stage, this is only an initial list of signatories, in the coming days additional experts are expected to join the long list of signatories.

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Yeah, the NYT is weighty enough in 99.99999% of wikipedia articles, but please realise that the NYT cannot possibly be weighty enough here. Oh no.

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A spokesman for Hamas, Ghazi Hamad, told the BBC that the militant group had received support from its ally Iran for its surprise attacks on Israel.

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There are possibly individual crimes by Israel that are full exceptions are we can say happened in Wikivoice, but I'm not confident of these yet.

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That you repeat the same false statement does not magically make it true. A number of reliable sources discuss Israeli war crimes as a fact. The

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I am just wondering how confidently we should assert in our article that Hamad told the BBC Hamas had direct backing from Iran, given that –

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That you repeat the same false statement does not magically make it true. A number of reliable sources discuss Israeli war crimes as a fact.

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Im citing expert views on what is a war crime. Thats what we do here. Trying to prove or disprove something myself is a violation of our

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One Hamas official said the attacks were backed by Iran and other countries, while another Hamas official denied that Iran was involved.(

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A Hamas spokesperson earlier told the BBC that the militant group had backing from its ally, Iran, for its surprise attacks on Israel

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and UN experts. The issue then is whether the allegations are noteworthy and due. There is overwhelming consensus that they are.

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Like other users here, I don't believe we should take untold explanations from a very general phrase like "Iran help us". Such

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If the BBC still stood by what they published on October 7, October 8 and October 9, why delete it a couple of days later?

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Exceptions exist, with sources treating them as fact, but not enough to change how we are required to treat them by NPOV.

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attacks on poorly defended targets (e.g. villages) with the intention of terrorizing and demoralizing their inhabitants"

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well, this here Paul Adams article is not very reliable, and so it can't be considered "authoritative" for this page.

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More importantly, some of those sources do not, as requested, cite legal authority for the claims originally made.

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from here, other crimes against humanity, such as those relating to killing (murder and extermination) (7(1)(a-b))

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not name them." The wording here is a bit strange, and it also contradicts another source above. I see you added "

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Ghazi Hamad, a Hamas spokesman, meanwhile told the BBC that the group had direct backing for the attack from Iran

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Ghazi Hamad, a Hamas spokesman, meanwhile told the BBC that the group had direct backing for the attack from Iran

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WSJ as the source of these claims (one of the BBC articles is nothing but a regurgitation of the WSJ article).

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Can you point to part of the article that unequivocally states Israel committed a war crime in Wiki voice?

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Jayen466's transcript of the BBC interview confirms that Hamas didn't say Iran was involved in this attack.

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this case it's the coordinated militias of an entire territory, elsewhere it could be armies of a nation.

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separately accuse Hamas of genocide in that article, but they don't reference the international experts.

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I have a feeling that was all that Hamad was referring to. :/ Note October 13/14 New York Times article:

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top military adviser to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, pledged

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Hamas is an extremist sunni organisation, that get support from wahhabi states. Iran is extremist shia.

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Iran has not been added as of yet in the main infobox (under "Belligerents") as a supporting country

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report on it, it becomes unassailable. Plus, you have the BBC, the WSJ, etc., all saying the same.

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Twice the BBC has reported that Hamas told it Iran helped it with the attacks. Please observe the

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Senior Hamas official says Iran, Hezbollah had no role in Israel incursion, but will help if needed

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Senior Hamas official says Iran, Hezbollah had no role in Israel incursion, but will help if needed

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should also be stated in Wiki voice, in order to inform and establish context for the allegations.

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Can you change the labels "Palestine" and "Israel" to "Killed Palestinians" and "Killed Israelis"?

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https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67058244

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Those are all reliable sources saying as a fact that Israel's actions have included war crimes.

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That article is too old to have a link to it. The statement was apparently released just today.

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and Syrian officials, and which furthermore locates the Iran-Hamas planning meetings in Beirut "

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audio? I really don't want to have use a VPN and sign up for BBC services. But let me know...

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All the editors here are all fervently pro-Palestinian. Who exactly are you trying to address?

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it verified the use of banned munitions against civilian targets and that this is a war crime

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He literally just answered that. Not very AGF of You to accuse him. On a restricted article.

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On the contrary. Israel is perpetuating a genocide. Hamas are "freedom fighters", you know?

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Iran's supreme leader (and there is none more senior than him) has denied Iran's involvement

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Paul Adams on Twitter to ask about the deletion. If he replies, I'll report back. Regards,

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claim for which there are not yet the amount of RS required to have this claim in the lead.

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on its side, and in confronting those who express support for the Palestinian position.

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citizens reportedly gathered outside of a McDonald's in Lebanon in protest of the move.

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Let's focus on the article ... The current wording, in the Muslim world subsection, is

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The interviewer asks "how much backing have you had from Iran for this operation?" and

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This was based on the Oct. 7 BBC article saying Ghazi Hamad had told the BBC Hamas had

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policy. When reliable sources say something is a fact then it is a fact on Knowledge.

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It's unequivocal that Hamas has committed war crimes; that is not true for Israel.

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The article you linked to is a reliable source. There is a similar article in the

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Use of "militant" for Hamas war crimes but "terrorist" for September 11 attackers

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resulted in a new section as to whether the removal of the WSJ citation was fair.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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currently available on the BBC, and are not being ghost-edited. So use them!

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people familiar with the operation said that a tight circle of leaders from

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density, and perhaps the long term and ongoing consequences of the attack.

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The earliest version contains the claim; the latest does not. Thoughts?

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that you are turning in to mere allegations when directed at Israel.

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Hamas gunmen captured and interrogated by Israel said they had been

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but not enough to change how we are required to treat them by NPOV.

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Nah. Actually, it depends on whose ox is getting gored. The NYT:

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I am proud that there are many countries who help us. Iran help us.

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Collective punishment is a war crime. The Special Procedures said

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Thanks for your precision. But, "reportedly told the BBC" what? --

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is appropriate in one case, it is appropriate in the other one.

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You are spreading misinformation. Hamas claims Iran backed them.

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In the second paragraph these two sentences should be merged:

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Said, Summer; Faucon, Benoit; Kalin, Stephen (8 October 2023).

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And how much backing have you had from Iran for this operation?

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the statement was later quietly deleted from the Adams article.

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round, and with Ghazi Hamad having said what Ghazi Hamad said.

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Agree with you, IDF's POV should be taken into account, too. --

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Again, assertion void of any supporting evidence whatsoever.

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Summer Said; Benoit Faucon; Stephen Kalin (8 October 2023).

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The long Wall Street Journal article you mention (archived

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occupation, which ist the longest occupation in the world …

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Iran has it's own organization in Gaza, the islamic jihad.

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settlements near the Gaza Strip that came under attack by

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and other franchises in muslim world donate to palestine

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no BBC article ever marked any of this as a direct quote,

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and therefore there is no need to qualify its reporting.

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I should add that my fixing my error as described above

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source is Ghazi Hamad. The October 7 BBC article said,

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They have also called the seige a clear-cut war crime

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International reactions to the 2023 Israel–Hamas war

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I replied to AtypicalPhanom's comment, not yours. --

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Are you checking the BBC archives for the 8: 2749:Among the signatories of the expert opinion: 2430:Do you mean the two sentences in the graph? 1502:training for the latest operation for a year 1424:know the extent of the difference, if any. 305:Meant to say lead states a Hamas spokesman* 1647: 1645: 1643: 1613: 1611: 1609: 712:Did Iran support plan for attack on Israel? 528:completely nuked the section with this edit 3104:Office of the High Council on Human Rights 2764:• Prof. David Luban, Georgetown University 2626: 1685: 1683: 1681: 1679: 883:: It's partly circular. On Oct. 8 the WSJ 794:Second, this here late Paul Adams article 2501:' by renowned French political scientist 1834:GISELLE RUHIYYIH EWING (7 October 2023). 433:Hamas said Iran assisted with its attacks 2755:• Prof. Kai Ambos, Universität Göttingen 2338:Awesome, thank you. Add it to the page! 2078:"Hamas Leaves Trail of Terror in Israel" 1504:, according to Israeli defense officials 814:plus, the WSJ cites a European official! 2493:' (surprise attack against non-Muslims) 2220: 2142:Trivial in comparison to daily events. 2069: 1829: 1827: 1576: 526:It should be noted that another editor 3153: 3149: 3079: 2883: 2877: 2805:UN statements are not made by Russia. 1979:2001:569:57B2:4D00:3100:E760:77D2:71D3 1902: 1591:. Agence France-Presse. 7 October 2023 1404:Should that be changed and if so how? 1398: 1348: 1327: 1216: 1212: 956: 887: 436: 432: 369:2A02:AA1:102F:523D:FC79:77E1:75A2:C6BF 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2594:2601:40:C481:A940:8596:B81B:5309:5014 1347:Well, the Politico source begins by: 787:first, the Paul Adams article may be 435:". 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