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5839:"Others were captured and bound and kidnapped. “I saw videos with a male getting held by a group of Arab kids. Like, they’re like 16, 17,” one survivor recalled. “They’re kids, but they’re young men already, and they’re holding this guy, and he looks as his girlfriend is being mounted on a bike and driven away from him. God knows what she’s going to experience … Women have been raped at the area of the rave next to their friends bodies, dead bodies." Several of these rape victims appear to have been later executed. Others were taken to Gaza." 5256:"It is the first direct conflict within Israel's de jure territory since the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. Hostilities were initiated in the early morning with a rocket barrage against Israel and vehicle-transported incursions into Israeli territory, with several attacks on surrounding Israeli civilian communities and Israeli military bases. Some observers have referred to these events as the beginning of a third Palestinian intifada. Israel formally declared war for the first time since the 1973 Yom Kippur War." 31: 1520:. It is easy to get caught up in various points of a conflict and forget to adhere to the guidelines set by Knowledge. Given the statement by the Isreali Prime Minister, it would be justified in being called "2023 Israel Palestine war" and also because of the media coverage by reliable sources. It may be advisable to wait a few days to see how this progresses as there is no rush to finalize a title for the article right now. 2087: 1055: 965: 820: 731: 646: 457: 340: 5080:, which is ambiguous to me. In any case, I leave it to other Knowledge editors to decide whether IDF was referring to all Hamas casualties or not and which source should be used. I myself do not intend to continue being part of this discussion any longer due to bad faith behavior experienced and will leave it to the rest of the editor community to decide which information is correct. 1087:
strike on a residential building in Shabora near Khan Younis. A Hamas leader named Ayman Younis was reported to have been killed on 8 October after shelling." to "Ten civilians were reportedly killed in a strike on a residential building in the Shabora on a residence near Khan Younis. A Hamas leader named Ayman Younis was reported to have been killed on October 8 after shelling."
3447: 4653:, I included "in Israeli airstrikes" because it isn't an attempt at providing a full accounting of Palestinian casualties; it doesn't include those killed in ground fighting. I think the infobox needs to clarify this, but I don't mind how it does that - if you can think of a better way than saying "in Israeli airstrikes" then I encourage you to add it. 4995:"This morning the dimensions of the disaster are also revealed in Kibbutz Nahal Oz. According to the residents, at least 20 terrorists infiltrated the kibbutz territory yesterday, more than five of them including children were murdered. The terrorists also took hostages from the kibbutz with them. Residents are being evacuated to Mishmar Ha'Negev" 5524: 2896: 2604: 2533: 2487: 2050: 930: 869: 150: 5431: 2300: 2207: 2137: 1928: 783: 4669:
the established template of Knowledge conflict articles, their causes of death are expanded upon in the main body of the article, to be specific, in the casualties section of the article, which is the standard Knowledge encyclopidic practice. If you want to elaborate in the casualties section regarding this, I can help you with that.
5004:"A day after the start of the attack on the Gaza Strip, when the security forces arrived in the settlements, the depth of the horror that took place there was revealed. In Kibbutz Nir Oz, as in Bari, many of the buildings caught fire. The terrorists burned houses to make the residents come out, to shoot them or kidnap them." 3592:. In the Diaspora, Shemini Atzeret is a two-day holiday immediately following the seventh day of Sukkot, and Simchat Torah is celebrated on the second day of Shemini Atzeret (which is colloquially referred to as Simchat Torah rather than "the second day of Shemini Atzeret"). The day the war started was Shemini Atzeret (and 4983:'Biden's Secretary of State announced that in the next few days the US will announce military aid to Israel. Compared to 1973, he said: "Then there was a war of army against army. This time it is an attack by a terrorist organization. Women, children and a Holocaust survivor in a wheelchair were kidnapped to Gaza"' 5264:. There were a few infiltrations into the area surrounding Gaza (the area that was attacked yesterday and today) through tunnels during operation Tzuk Eitan and the Israel Defense Forces dealt with them. In the current case it is broader and included a lot of damage to civilians and their kidnapping. 3900:
Just recently, Southern Lebanon initiated their rocket attacks on Israel in support of Gaza. IDF responded by artillery fire, and some UN peacekeepers (UNIFIL) in Lebanon is pulled back to their base. Should it be included in the article? I'm looking into others opinion, as I am unable edit it due to
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I feel like at the moment it's Gaza/Hamas rather than Palestine as a whole so I'm not sure if it's appropriate to change it to "Palestine". And as mentioned, despite the media calling it a 'war' and a war being declared, I'm still not sure if the title should change to "war", it's currently too soon.
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Comparing this attack to 9/11 is a reaction some are having, as such it belongs in the reaction section and should not be state in wikipedia's voice. Other comparisons have also been made, to the 1973 war, or the Tet offensive (and broadly some have compared the Israeli occupation to apartheid). All
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1. 2006 Lebanon War and 1982 Lebanon War ( first and second Lebanon Wars ) was declared as wars at Israel. The difference can be that they started as military operations and their status were changed because the events 2. the 1973 Yom Kippur War happened at golan height and sinai. The are outside
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I have merged the IDF, police and Shin Bet casualties with the note listing foreign nationals. Additionally I have also removed the number of displaced and the Israeli estimate of killed militans. The section seemed too large for the infobox and I think those should be listed inside the article like
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Like I said, adding "in Israeli airstrikes" is not in line with other Knowledge conflict infoboxes (including previous Gaza wars) where only casualty figures are listed (with attribution to the source and distinguishing between civilian and combatant). Causes of death are not for the infobox. As per
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Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah are always the same day in Israel. They don't always coincide with Shabbat, obviously, but there's nothing unusual about that. These are all regular events in the Jewish calendar, so I'm not sure why a newspaper article would be needed to corroborate their existence
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I think it's important for the reader to understand that a large portion of the population had no access to phones, radio, television or computers for about 13 hours into the event, because observant Jews would only use electricity on Shabbat/holiday if it's a matter of life or death. Since the only
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I don't think a timeline is necessary, or even feasible. Many events happened nearly simultaneously across many locations in a short period of time. It probably would be impossible to reconstruct a sequence beyond the broad outlines already given. If this conflict continues in the coming days, as it
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Please include the case of the 8 Mexican Foreign nationals reported missing or killed on the attack , one by the name of Orión Hernandez Radoux, apparently captive in Gaza or missing, boyfriend of German- Israeli citizen Shani Louk who was shown deceased in a video posted on social media , naked and
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This number presumably includes all people who died under any circumstances directly attributable to the terrorists. It includes rockets, invasions, any accidents which may have occured on the way to the shelters, any "friendly fire" which occured while trying to deal with terrorists, any suspicious
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We are in a difficult situation then. If nobody has reported this as relevant then we cannot include it. In the case of the "holiday situation", we currently have to rely on outside sources (two articles published in the US), and what they make of it. What you have said about why the details matter
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I would write something along the lines of: The attack took place during Shabbat and the Jewish holidays of Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah, which conclude the long holiday season of Tishrei ("High Holy Days"). It was also a day after the 50th anniversary of the start of the Yom Kippur War, which
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are a primary source; without secondary sources supporting the mention of such primary statement, they have no weight and are undue. I would suggest initially removing responses that do not have secondary sources supporting them, and potentially later tightening this to multiple secondary sources.
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As always with such pages, a wall of response material is rapidly being added without a logical stopping point - if 200 countries responded, would the page simply list all 200 responses? A simple starting point for rationalizing this would be to ditch pure twitter/X content. Foreign ministry tweets
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There's a lot that needs review. However, here is an incomplete sentence at the bottom "considering that Netanyahu's coalition partners, who opposed a two-state solution for the conflict and would prefer to annex the entirety of the West Bank, even at the expense of turning Israel into an apartheid
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Based on experience, it is better to condense such statements after things quiet down, because some editors are quite touchy especially if it deals with their home countries. Please do note also that a lot of countries, including mine, have lots of migrant workers in Israel so I might add ours the
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Under "Terminology," the article refers to the Palestinian offensive as "Operation Al-Aqsa Deluge" and the Israeli counterattack as "Operation Swords of Iron." The rest of the article instead uses "Operation Al-Aqsa Flood" and "Operation Iron Swords." The "Terminology" section should be changed to
1979:"Israel’s declaration of war, a mostly symbolic formality, would allow the government to enact a wider mobilization of military reserves and compel the government to identify specific wartime objectives, raising the specter of a ground invasion of Gaza." Idk if it is worth mentioning specifically. 1086:
Under Casualties-Palestine, change "Ten civilians were reportedly killed in a strike on a residential building in the Shabora on a residence near Khan Younis. A Hamas leader named Ayman Younis was reported to have been killed on October 8 after shelling. Ten civilians were reportedly killed in a
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Hundreds of Israelis have been killed/murdered by militants/terrorists who conquered/took control of Israeli communities, villages and bases. Only a few have died from rocket fire. Israeli media currently reports at least 600 dead, 250 killed by Hamas militants/terrorists during a peace rave near
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I totally understand. However, it's not likely to appear in a newspaper article because for Israelis it's simply obvious, and as you can see, it's very hard to explain halakhah to an outsider. That's why I suggested stating the basic facts about the nature of the day, without going into too much
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Update: UNIFIL confirms rocket attack at southeast Lebanon towards Israeli-occupied territory in the general area of Kafr Chouba and artillery fire from Israel to Lebanon in response. They are in contact with authorities in both sides of the Blue Line, at all levels, to contain the situation and
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One should remember that not only is Yom Kippur a much more important holiday than Simchat Torah (one with military implications- Yom Kippur is a fast day), Shabbat is not a holiday in the same sense as either- it happens once a week. I would remove the mention of Shabbat and perhaps clarify the
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Thanks, that would be a reasonable citation to use for the strength parameter, if we decide to add it back (as "about 1000", not "1000+" which is still unverified). It can't be the original source for the number, because that article is only a few hours old, but that doesn't matter much at this
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Her mother posted a video on social media, saying she recognized her daughter in a hamas video. According to her and "Die Welt", Charlie is that girl in that video where Hamas fighters film a lifeless body of a woman on a pickuptruck, surrounded by hamas soldiers that are chanting (Video is
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We should probably focus on getting the content right and picking the name later, something will coalesce. But people here seem to be generally on the right track and we shouldn't mind moving it and changing the name if a different one emerges. Keep in mind that no change is permanent.
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explicetly stating that the IDF's claim of Hamas casualties was for both militant deaths in and outside of Gaza. The editor in question insists on saying the figure is for deaths inside Israel only, calling upon a BBC report which said 400 were killed "during the fighting in Israel"
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My intention with that edit isn't to include the cause of death; it's to make it clear that the Palestinian Ministry of Health (Hamas) is not claiming to make a full accounting of casualties. I think that is something we need to make clear, as currently we are misrepresenting the
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What are the criteria for adding people from other countries affected by the conflict to the 3rd box in the infobox?Like Nepalese and Thai. Because it was reported that 2 Brazilians were in the Unniverso Paralelo party who are missing (dead or kidnapped) and one injured. Source:
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Seems to have been done. As of the time of my comment, the following are listed as "belligerents" in the infobox: Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Lions' Den, Hezbollah, Israel.
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I have no problem with the merging of the Israeli security forces dead to the note listing the foreigners. I also have no problem with the removal of the number of discplaced or Israeli claim of militant dead (due to its potential unreliability). However, I agree with
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To add on to what you said, there is still a sentence in the article saying, “a video of Palestinians parading her unconscious naked body in a car,” which should be changed to reflect the fact she is fully clothed and was being transported as a prisoner, not paraded.
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As I stated before, Palestine's government did not explicitly declare war, nor use their official military. This is an act of multiple organized terrosit groups within Gaza and Palestine in general. To call it the Palestinian Israel War would be largely inaccurate.
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The detailed wording usually adds no knowledge. A sentence such as "The attacks were condemned by countryone, countrytwo, ... and supported by countrya, ... would seem sufficient, with more detail when anything substantial rather than routine is said. Best wishes,
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Since Benjamin Netanyahu declared war, surely the conflict is, definitively, a war? I would also like to express my deepest appreciation for everyone’s commitment to Knowledge’s truthfulness and neutrality on this particularly divisive topic (and everything else).
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If that is so then I agree. However, we need a reliable source that discusses those issues. Do you have a newspaper article that does so? Nothing against your personal experiences (you and your friends have my sympathy), but we can't use anecdotal evidence here.
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I support the use of the word "war" in the article title, but at the same time wonder whether the name "Palestine" belongs there. The attack on Israel was a Hamas initiative (possibly with outside help), but was it really an official Palestinian one? After all,
1750:: I agree on the use of the word "war" but also due to the concepts of territorial dispute and the historical nature of the region, it may be possible to classify this as a warring internal dispute; a civil war. Therefore: October 2023 Gaza−Israel Civil War. 2577:
The Minister of the Interior, Luis Alberto Heber, ordered the police forces to reinforce security to preserve the safety of Israeli citizens and organizations in Uruguay, following the surprise attack by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and the declaration of war.
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I agreed, he had already started a counter attack. Surely it's a war, rather than a conflict. Maybe compare it with previous conflicts and if it escalates, then it's a go. Either way, I would wait for an official government statement. So far, nothing new.
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There is reliable sources of UN peacekeepers backing away/increasing their presence there due to rocket attacks there, but the issue is still ongoing and nothing much (information) can be found as of now. I will keep on updating if there is anything new.
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The citation for Ukraine supporting Israel in the conflict is pretty insufficient, it just refers to the president's words of encouragement. Might as well list half the countries in the world if that's all it takes to be included as a military supporter.
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We know that the West will support Israel by default and the rest of the world will call for restraint, with a few outliers supporting the Palestinians, so listing every single country in the western block with their identical statements is pointless.
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Idk that the IDF is reliable for Hamas casualties any more than Hamas would be for Israeli. They are probably both unreliable for their own casualties for that matter. The casualties are being constantly updated so it's probably not that critical.
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Are you sure there won't be anything in local newspapers? The concurrence of multiple holidays seems unusual enough to me that it should be mentioned even in Israeli newspapers, if it is really relevant. We are currently citing an NPR article
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The woman wasn't naked either, it appears this is how she dressed normally (look her up). Even the Israeli commander who was caught was in his underwear. It seems a lot of them were simply caught unexpectedly, nothing sexual about that.
4179:מבצע חרבות ברזל≠Mivtsa Charvot Barzel מבצע חרבות ברזל=Mivtsa Ch/Kharavot Barzel Sorry formatting is terrible when combining Hebrew and English. Location: Second paragraph of the "Background" Section. Source: Me, a native Hebrew speaker. 2416:
The 30/500 rule doesn't apply to ordinary discussions (it does to move requests). I've generally been trying to archive discussions that have naturally resolved so as to keep the page readable, but I can stop doing that if you'd like. —
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https://theworldhistoryofwar.quora.com/https-www-quora-com-If-the-Palestinian-people-didnt-exist-before-Israels-existence-then-where-did-they-come-from-answe?ch=17&oid=16745248&share=f887561d&srid=a9am&target_type=post
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part of Hamas. Palestine, as it sits now, is politically very fractured. Beyond that, I have no recommendation for a proper title, and I agree with a number of contributors that we should wait and see how this situation develops.
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has no halakhic significance on its own, despite being the most culturally prominent among the three. The combination of these three different occasions caused a unique difficulty: it's as halakhically limiting as possible
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Calling for an urgent closure and archiving of outdated discussions (especially casualty figures) and international reactions (moved to another article). It is becoming quite difficult to scroll through this talk page.
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A symbolic formality with very few modern examples. I'd say it merits a mention, assuming we are talking about the legal formality that in theory sovereign countries are supposed to issue before commencing hostilities.
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that 86 percent shouldn't be added unless sourced, because it is more than likely there are still a number of Israeli combatants among the 700 dead who have not yet been identified. It will become clear in a few days.
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So, firstly the "Times of Israel" live ticker Article referenced Antony blinken. Better to say, a tweet from Kaitlan Collins where she said that Antony blinken told CNN that several american citizens are dead and/or
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Mainstream news agencies such as The Guardian have also referred to it as such. It's not limited to tabloids. I think we're past the point of just considering it sensationalism from clickbait low-quality "news"papers.
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I believe it is way too early to call it Palestine-Israel war. Hamas is a terrorist organization, and doesn't represent Palestinians on the West Bank. I may be inclined to change my opinion as more event's unfold.
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I tried to add the U.S supporting Israel but it was removed and called deprecated although this type of infobox layout is seen across Knowledge? If it’s newly deprecated can the wording be changed to arms supplier?
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Good question. Theres also the fresh reports from antony blinken that several american citizens are "dead, missing". Also, the indonesian medic that was killed by Israeli forces is also gone from the infobox.
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information they had was the sound of the sirens, some friends of mine sat in shelters for almost the entire day without any idea of what was going on outside. The text should convey this reality in some way.
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We already have a sentence on Shani Louk. I see news articles about 2 Mexican nationals being captive, which is also already noted in the article. If you can find an article saying there are 8, I'll add it.
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I cannot edit this article because it is protected, but whoever can edit the article should know that the Israeli cabinet has confirmed that Israel is at war and not in a conflict or a military operation.
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Ok, some news called it a third intifada, and others called it Hamas-Israel war, Israel war and some called it a Terror wave, we just need to stick we a netural name and I think the current title does it
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Reactions are added, until they become too numerous. In that case, only reactions covered in secondary sources may be kept. If that becomes too voluminous as well, a split is in order. Simple procedure.
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Hasn't been removed, its still in the infobox. Just moved to a note beside the overall number of dead within Israel, which counts the foreign citizens. Listing them separately would be double-counting.
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In my understanding, the massacre at the nature party (which was in the forest) has nothing to do with the battle at Camp Reim (Gaza Division headquarters). These are different events that took place.
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Thank you for admitting that it is wrong to conquered and control communities. Does this mean that Israel is now willing to hand back all the villages and homes that it has stolen in resent times?
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It could be defientely called an Intifada in a matter of days weeks or maybe months but it's not the name used by anyone other than some populist news agencies thus it's incorrect to call it that.
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So by that logic this would be the fourth intifada. Or, perhaps, there is no third intifada despite the wishes of bloodthirsty outsiders to label everything as such. Total crystal ball violation.
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The brazilian government never said it supported "Israels right to defend itself", it simple condemned the hamas attacks on civilians and called for de escalation, please correct the information
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Well now Hezbollah has claimed responsilibity for it. "Lebanon’s Hezbollah says it has targeted three occupation outposts with mortar shells in the “occupied Shebaa Farms” in southern Lebanon."
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According to the Swiss goverment news channel "SRF", there were no reports of swiss citizens missing, kidnapped or killed at the moment of writing (16:00 UTC+1). The swiss live-ticker is here:
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The reported casualties are sourced to reputable news outlets. If one side or the other is being untruthful about the casualty counts, there is nothing we can do about it. We cannot do our own
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It is mentioned in the lead that there was sexual violence. However, the links provided do not say this. Driving around a body of a naked woman does not imply there was sexual assault per se.
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If your only objection is a lack of prior consensus then you dont have an objection. If you have a reason in support of a listing of reactions belongs in this article feel free to provide it.
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The attack took place during the Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah and Shabbat, and a day after the 50th anniversary of the start of the Yom Kippur War, which also began with a surprise attack.
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For now, I think it is too early to call it Palestine-Israel war. The side opposed to Israel is Hamas, which does not represent the Palestinians in West Bank. We should wait for more events.
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Hi. Popular Resistance Committees lauch attacks with drones on Israel, someone can add this organisation to the belligerents ? Thanks. Idem for al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades who publish videos.
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Please add to the foreign victims a Chilean who was murdered by Hamas, the name has already been published and the Israeli ambassador in Chile confirmed it publicly, I leave you the link
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Just like the geographic region known as “North America” contains 3 countries, Canada, USA, and Mexico. There is no country, “North America” nor is there a nationality, “North American.”
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the list which shows the casualties of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Furthermore I consider adding (86% civilians) next to 700 killed in Israeli casualties, would you support this?
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This is officially a war as not too long ago, the cabinet agreed on invoking article 40 aleph, which was not invoked since the Yom Kippur war, making it an official declaration of war.
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By the same token, the geographic area known as “Palestine” contains 3 countries, Gaza, Israel, and Jordan. There is no country, “Palestine” nor is there a nationality, “Palestinian.”
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-08/ty-article-live/over-250-israelis-killed-1-590-wounded-civilians-and-soldiers-held-hostage-in-gaza/0000018b-0cd2-d8fc-adff-6dfe855e0000
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There are multiple sources that say the opposite; she is most likely alive. The main goal of this seems to be taking prisoners for swapping, and it's entirely consistent with that.
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If you mean the suprise terror attack, and not the overall war, then that's a discussion to have. (Since a few hundred Hamas' militants entered Israel, while others shot missiles).
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Unlikely. They don't recognise the Shebaa farms as Israel (in fairness neither does anyone else its just that most of the world thinks they are part of syria rather than Lebanon).
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I ask you to remove the saying that Hamas' has "1000+ militants". The terror organisation has at least a couple tens of thousands alone, without the other terror organizations.
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Second to last sentence in Outside Gaza section states: "Video footage confirmed that a small unit belonging to the Palestinian militias had arrived at the Jewish settlement of
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From the beginning of the event (documentation that became less unusual) "Extraordinary documentation: terrorists have infiltrated the surrounding settlements and are shooting"
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I agree with the proposal to change the title to include the word "war". More and more news outlet are beginning to use "war" to describe what is happening. Here is one example:
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-07/ty-article/.premium/survivors-of-massacre-at-israeli-outdoor-rave-describe-battlefield/0000018b-0a85-dae9-adcb-abbfa4990000
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-07/ty-article/.premium/survivors-of-massacre-at-israeli-outdoor-rave-describe-battlefield/0000018b-0a85-dae9-adcb-abbfa4990000
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That should not occur. While the groups are from terrorist organizations within Palestine, the Palestinian military nor government has declares actual war upon Israel.
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Talk page is over twice the recommended maximum (170kB out of 75), I'll be archiving old stuff that's closed/already added/no chance to be added, before stuff crashes.
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Per the news outlet, the death toll on the israeli side is now over 400. The "Times of Israel" also state that there are currently 2,048 injured on the israeli side.
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I changed it to "Kharavot", and marked it as needing a citation. The CNN article we are currently citing does not provide a transliteration. Right now, a search for
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The german news channel "Die welt" announced that a german tourist from berlin (not Shani Nicole Louk) is now reported to be killed after being kidnapped by Hamas.
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The german news channel "Die welt" announced that a german tourist from berlin (not Shani Nicole Louk) is now reported to be killed after being kidnapped by Hamas.
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point. Blinken said, quote: "We had about 1,000 Hamas militants who infiltrated Israel. Most of them seem to have either been killed or have gone back into Gaza."
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Again, did you not notice I already added "Gaza" in brackets beside the Ministry to indicate the region they say they are documenting as an attempt at compromise?
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from the side. The image also shows her miniskirt seemingly split up the rear --likely not the original state of even such an immodest dresser as the victim
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Both sides have referred to this as a war, and sources are reporting on it as such. Perhaps appropriate to title it as 2023 Israel-Gaza War or something similar.
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Im currently watching "The Welt" (german news channel) and they're also referencing the official number of 600+, that was made by the health ministry of Israel.
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Constructive comments from new accounts have been removed from this talk page. Does the 30 day, 500 edit minimum apply to the talk page as well as the article?
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/08/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-palestinian-attack-october-2023-gaza-conflict-hostages-latest-news#maincontent
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/08/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-palestinian-attack-october-2023-gaza-conflict-hostages-latest-news#maincontent
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Geographically, there are Kibbutz Reim, Camp Reim and Forest Reim in this area. These are 3 separate places and it is advisable to be careful of confusion.
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for the second half of the sentence. If any of that is to be replaced by something not in the current sources, we need a different one, as those are
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I have stumbled upon this tweet which purportedly displays the towns under temporary Hamas occupation. Should this image be included in the article?
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The current map is in .png format since its too large to be uploaded as an .svg. However, you can download it as .svg at its page in common through
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That doesn't make it clear that they are only reporting casualties from within the strip, as there are other ways to interpret that disambiguation.
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There are several sentences in the article about "being at war" etc., why would it be a problem to include a sentence that officially confirms it?
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/08/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-palestinian-attack-october-2023-gaza-conflict-hostages-latest-news
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It may still be worth looking for a more recent source, or one that actually includes the cited figure. The current citation (in its archived form
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I'm trying to look to somehow get a link for that news thats not gonna be the link to the youtube-livestream of the official "Die Welt" channel.
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I'm trying to look to somehow get a link for that news thats not gonna be the link to the youtube-livestream of the official "Die Welt" channel.
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If there's any terms being commonly used in Israeli or Palestinian media about this - and it's being widely used - I recommend that it's added.
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I will just note that I did hear this already referred to as "war in Israel" on television. Reference was made not only to missile attacks, but
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The German goverment announced that atleast 2 german citizens are missing/kidnapped by Hamas. The news channel "Die Welt" is reporting on that.
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It is late, 4:55 a.m. here, so please somebody rlse find a few sources for Hamas' amount of militants, and maybe another one for the others.
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Hareetz is covering it as Israel–Gaza War; Al-Jazeera, Israel-Hamas Conflict... Oops, now Israel-Hamas war, as does The Guardian. Thus far...
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It also occurred on Shabbat which is rest day. But aside from that, could you also clarify Succot? There are also mentions of that holiday.
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https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/1000-hamas-fighters-infiltrated-israel-most-killed-or-back-to-gaza-blinken-101696810480050.html
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Reactions are not inherently notable. They do not need to be covered at all unless the reaction itself has been the subject of analysis.
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LA NACION, Ataque de Hamas: murieron dos argentinos en Israel por el violento asalto terrorista, 8 de octubre de 2023, Gabriela Origlia,
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people who were killed and subsequently realized not to be terrorists (one such case was reported on the media already, a driver) etc.
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Google searches reveal "Operation Al-Aqsa Flood" and "Operation Iron Swords" are the more common variants. I'll change accordingly. --
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Also, SRF cited the official swiss Departement für auswärtige Angelegenheiten (EDA) aka the swiss Ministry of foreign affairs.
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At time of my writing "Times of Israel", "Channel 12" and "Channel 13" are all refering to the Health ministries number of 600+
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The conflict is occuring a bit after Yom Kippur, so shouldn't it be called ẗhe "Second Yom Kippur War" or "Yom Kippur War II"?
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In photographs released online, you can see several paraded through the city’s streets, blood gushing from between their legs.
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It's not universal but several American news agencies have referred to it as such. Similarly, we use "Third Intifada" in the
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The introduction suggests this but the cited sources do not substantiate this. Is there any evidence from credible sources?
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I have removed a few instances of identical comments that were posted twice (apparently accidental), from this page and the
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She wasn't unconscious, she was dead. It wasn't transporting a prisoner, it was showing off and reveling over her corpse.
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I think it should be removed. It's a controversial term and it's too soon to decide it will be called the Third Intifada.
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I see there's already mention that the "supported by" line is deprecated anyway, so I guess it'll be removed eventually.
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https://www.srf.ch/news/international/grossangriff-auf-israel-mindestens-500-tote-in-israel-hisbollah-angriffe-im-norden
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https://www.lanacion.com.ar/el-mundo/ataque-de-hamas-murio-un-argentino-en-israel-por-el-asalto-terrorista-nid07102023/
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If you think its unreliable then remove it by all means. Wasn't sure myself since it has not been widely reported on.
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which states, "the term or name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred." Please focus on what
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More likely, this can be added to an article about various Hamas attacks on Israel in 2023, or over a longer period.
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The bible does not say anything about a day called Shmini Atzeret. It says "On the eighth day, you shall have an
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Could you send any current sources on the disappearance, injury or death of Americans in the conflict? I couldn't
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I am uncertain whether the "occupied East Jerusalem." is acceptable and would like someone to please review it.
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i am not able to paste the link here for some reason, but several Brazilian news outlets are talking about it.
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1,000 sounds inaccurate to me as well, but, for what it is worth, I think the figure comes from this article:
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Up to 13 in 24 hours, an unusually high number, if anyone can find sourcing on that, reasons for, etcetera.
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More info: A mother talked with one of the reporters and said her daughter got killed after bing kidnapped.
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More info: A mother talked with one of the reporters and said her daughter got killed after bing kidnapped.
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I typed 2023 hamas attack and the first thing that came up was clashes in May. Maybe we could add October.
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Assuming you are right, would you have a reliable source for "your" figure of a couple tens of thousands?
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To me it seems more like a conflict/clash or possibly a crisis, but even for that it's too soon to tell. —
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This etymological information is irrelevant. I believe the point was that Shemini Atzeret is דאורייתא (a
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small update per "channel 12 news" and per "times of israel", the israeli death toll has risen to 700+
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is celebrated on Shemini Atzeret, a one-day holiday immediately following the seventh (final) day of
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Several countries including Russia have called for restraint, without directly supporting either side
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Just add more cities to it in southern Israel, with control and ongoing engagements and all that -
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The event appears to have been named Universo Paralello but can't find a solid source for that yet.
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the Palestinian Ministry of Health (Hamas) is not claiming to make a full accounting of casualties
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She was not a soldier caught unexpectedly, she was a german citizen murdered in a music festival
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I think it's best for us to wait for a bit. If there is no sign of deescalation, then it's a go.
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Completely agree. Palestine did not declare war on Israel, only terrorist groups in Palestine.
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Change the Israeli town Sofa from linking to the page for couches (furniture) to its own page.
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The current number of missing of 750+ in infobox is unreliable. It originates from a tweet by
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finds the WikiData entry. If you have a source (ideally a specific URL), that would be nice.
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A handful of mortar shells doesn't square with Hezbollah. Those guys have a lot of rockets.
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Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian is a military correspondend for the news agency "Times of Israel".
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So many mistakes. There were three different occasions on the day of the initial attacks:
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Remove Fatah from the belligerents list. They are not currently involved in the conflict.
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I could only find stuff about one of the two dissapeared german citizens, Charlie Louk. .
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We can't really state they're linked unless the motives of the shooter are made clear.
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talk page, especially duplicate edit requests. The 30/500 rule played no role in that.
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correction:DJ alok's father was not the organizar, he was only onde of the djs there.
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You need the mention 50%+ civilians Israeli casualties if doing the same with Hamas.
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Not a mess up, this is just the number of Palestinian casualties claimed by the IDF
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If someone removed it, it might be disputed. I shall leave it for others to do it.
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Okay, great. Guess my preemptive creation of Archive 2 was unneeded, thanks a lot.
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Did it? I think they are right that "considering" was not referring to anything.
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You could try to create a timeline article....divided by hour? It's only day 2.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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There is no proof that she is even dead, most likely taken for prisoner swap.
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The archive time was reduced to 1 day, it should clear up tomorrow hopefully.
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The infobox refers to it as the "Third Intifada", perhaps we should use that?
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Can you think of a way to do that other than to say "in Israeli airstrikes"?
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I just read the death Toll has risen to 600+ according to "Times of Israel".
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Agreed: I believe that the name should be changed to The Israeli-Hamas War.
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Im swiss, if anyone needs translation of swiss or german news, i am here.
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Archiving time has been reduced, hopefully it will clear up by tomorrow.
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I deleted this section as a mistake\edit conflict. hope it's fine now. –
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This is hardly commonly used for this conflict. I haven't seen it once.
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I'm considering whether to place it in international reactions instead.
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Add Uruguay to countries with reinforced security following the attacks
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It is the first time since 1973. I think that is worth mentioning. --
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Can you provide some sources? I can't find anything to this effect.
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If Israel attacks back, we can name it 2023 Palestine−Israel War.
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It appears someone made a fix while I was away. Not sure who did.
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The countries that ally Israel or Palestine are not represented.
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There are multiple reports that Israel has issued a formal
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 October 2023
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That's a major change; there should be a consensus first.–
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should this become the new article name (once translated)
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of that should be attributed and put alongside reactions.
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Why are all support additions being removed collectively?
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The fighting is still going on in some areas, 8.10.2023 (
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It's Hezbollah. I will look into some more informations.
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https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1710584095632163250
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In Hebrew Wiki, We have two different pages for the war (
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Did this ever get put back in? Because it needs to be.
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The article was posted 10 minutes ago as of my writing.
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https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1710551424436748742
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is a more appropriate article for that level of detail.
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https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/h1jq4eg11p#autoplay
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Egyptian policeman kills Israeli tourists in Alexandria
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https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b15wi11xz6#autoplay
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discussion below; please do not !vote in this section.
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https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/rykxjfxb6#autoplay
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Death Toll in Israel is now 400+ per "Times of Israel"
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https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/ryhehzybp#autoplay
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This is too poorly sourced to be used in the article.
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3 Brazilians missing, 1 injured during attack on rave.
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This is too poorly sourced to be used in the article.
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Therefore, their strength count shall be represented.
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sounds highly relevant to me, but that's not enough.
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It's being reported on X (formerly known as Twitter)
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There was also a third battle in the kibbutz itself (
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clearly shows her bra/top pulled up over her breasts
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Need help fixing flag for Ziad Nakhalah in infobox.
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The earlier cited "Proof that the body was dressed"
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The Israeli cabinet confirmed that Israel is at war
5357:section above and template discussion/RFC refers. 4974:"Reports that several Americans killed - Blinken" 3164:Template:Israeli-Palestinian conflict detailed map 371:Under International Reactions, add a line saying: 3544:, such as Shemini Atzeret, is second to Shabbat. 3475:difference between Simchat Torah and Yom Kippur. 501:, Please add this which is removed from infobox. 234:Hundreds of Israel casualties from Hamas rockets? 5495:The topic is of the war of Israel against Hamas. 2279:Please take with a grain of salt (safety-first) 1907:Please take with a grain of salt (safety-first) 1491:– Titles of articles are generally goverened by 1225:there is now an operation name for this event 413:Why is IDF casualties on the palastinian side? 5233:, a free software. It can also be done using 4999:https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/s1nlru0x6 4993:https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/ryczojxwa 4960:https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/ryczojxwa 3361:There is precedent, same thing was done with 2686:https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hjyzajclt 529:It hasn't been removed, it has been moved to 8: 4924:At the moment of writing, thats all i know. 4175:Edit request: Correct Hebrew transliteration 3720:referring to it in the present tense as such 3580:The proper, biblical name of the holiday is 2258:https://www.welt.de/tv-programm-live-stream/ 1886:https://www.welt.de/tv-programm-live-stream/ 5318:Is there a section that lists the victims? 5279:What exactly is wrong about the paragraph? 5002:https://www.ynet.co.il/blogs/war2dayevening 3963:I'll get back to ya with reliable sources. 3470:Simchat Torah, Shemini Atzeret, and Shabbat 2830:Not sure if the events are linked, though. 5507:But regarding the war, both are fully in. 5011: 4271: 2768: 2648: 601:uses the same flag for al-Nakhalah, while 310: 239: 5314:Section Israeli and international victims 5252:Mistakes/dis accurating at this paragraph 4478:What do you suggest to be added to this? 2931:killed, 11 kidnapped by Hamas, 8 injured, 5373:Potential bias in 'Outside Gaza' section 3126:Map of alleged territory seized by Hamas 5771:2603:7080:8F00:49F1:41BB:C608:C30A:AA5D 5738:2603:7080:8F00:49F1:41BB:C608:C30A:AA5D 5710:2A02:6680:110B:9A00:C4B1:4809:B0E2:1AD2 5390:2600:6C60:5D00:66FA:FCEA:5DC2:E74B:D324 3044:was invoked but never defined (see the 2957: 2173:'s father, maybe important to mention. 2169:in addition, the rave was organized by 1499:are using to refer to this conflict. - 1092:2607:FEA8:565F:8160:F990:8F49:59D5:1B91 531:October_2023_Gaza−Israel_conflict#Notes 5664:2001:569:57B2:4D00:C9A0:AE48:F495:2536 5354: 4475: 3399:nableezy's action is in the spirit of 2557:2804:4FFC:40D:9D00:D084:D667:4BFA:679B 2517:2804:4FFC:40D:9D00:4D20:2973:F9C3:415C 1199:2A01:C22:C931:E700:78CF:B4BA:DE3D:CB0C 448:Edit request - Restore this in infobox 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4956:https://news.walla.co.il/item/3614541 2925:kidnapped by Hamas, 7 Nepalis injured 2803:2A02:908:4E3:9520:DD40:507C:B7CE:F490 1666:, Surprise Attack on Israel (2023)). 1512:I would second the comment citing to 7: 5678:Seems your objection has some point. 3536:. 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