2641:. Secondly, they are not just trivia no one cares about, they are important for orientation - especially for new readers who may know only one of the possible names; more importantly, their inclusion in the middle of the background disrupts the reading flow and is distracting. And you are currently in the minority for wanting to remove the section, as it was there before you edits, and your change was opposed by at least two editors. Perhaps a compromise would be possible? For example, having the "Terminology" section as a sub-section of the "Background" section instead of in the middle of the background? (BTW, though I restored the section this time, I won't start an edit war over this; I would prefer if we could just talk about this).
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touchy and sensitive topic like this, I'd like to avoid conveying or implying - intentionally or unintentionally - that
Palestine is "not a real country" or merely an insurgent breakaway movement within Israel. Dotted lines don't always have to convey this, of course. File:Israel and occupied territories map.png is a good example of how this problem can be avoided by having all international borders be dotted and explaining in the key what Palestine's slightly different looking borders mean.
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If I could change any one thing about the map, it would be the low contrast between the shade of green used for Gaza and the shade of blue used for Israel. When they're put right next to each other in those small boxes, they become very hard to see, and I can imagine this would be even more of an issue for colorblind readers. This is less of an issue when looking at the full-sized map which is animated, but it's not ideal at the small resolution used for the infobox image.
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2198:: almost every conflict involves civilian casualties and the "parties" in an infobox typically represent the belligerents (and allies of said belligerents). Civilians are not fighting this war per se nor are they a belligerent. Per above and per this reasoning, adding in a "civilian party" would be superfluous and inaccurate.
897:). The land control map could well be useful—if the module map were to be updated to have something like an interpolated border between the various places I would support it—but it's going to be a bit harder to keep an ordinary svg/updated based upon local consensus on the fly if we don't use the map module.
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In this case, factual reporting in RS is mostly repeating what they have been told by an involved source. I can read a newspaper for this. And then read it tomorrow and get a different set of 'facts' and then.... It's not what I use an encyclopedia for. No, we do not wait for one random person. (Did
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an SVG one, and it is only the thumbnail that I've tried to put on the article that is rasterized. That's why I link back to the module in the caption. If I could place a cropped SVG live-snapshot of the module in the infobox, I would. Only in your mind is this a "you vs me" conflict. And stop making
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I don’t like the module map because it is very bleak. It does not cover roads, heights or urban density. The current map should be as easy to edit as the module. I couldn’t upload it as svg since it’s size is too large but you can download it at the page and export it as png. This should be very east
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I accept that this is currently a data problem, but think that it is still worth trying to sift through the data to find the information or make estimates as much as possible, with the hope that the "feel sorry for the innocent people" side will grow and this data becomes more available over the long
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Do also note that your proposal would add an unnecessary gap in the leaders and units, especially if no obvious relief agency is available. It would also lead to more mistakes with users having difficulties with columns particularly in conflicts were there are more than two defined sets of combatants
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According to the wiki page about it, the battle was already over, he was inspired by the aftermath to make Geneva conventions which relate just as much to how combatants can attack each other (or not) as it does to civilians. If he was out there on the battlefield telling sides not to kill each other
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boundaries as different types of dotted lines (which removes any visual implication that the boundaries of
Palestine are in a lesser category than the rest of the boundaries) and explains the purpose of making Palestine's borders different, which is simply to show the reader the former borders of the
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Change "Israel Air Force's has been reported to use banned chemical weapons in Gaza. Based on a video that shows munitions descending from the sky, it is apparent that the white phosphorus bomb are being dropped, which is considered a war crime." by removing it all together. See my post on it, it is
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you linked, which you added with the title "198 killed in Gaza." I also fail to see why this would be included separately from the already mentioned and attributed statement "The
Palestinian Ministry of Health led by Hamas in Gaza reported Israel had killed at least 400 Palestinians in gunfights and
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with the edit description of "Another
Instagram video surfaced of a militant (presumably Hamas) who gestures at an Israeli geriatric and her disabled child instructing that “we should not kill a woman, or a child, or an old man or a worshipper”. I don’t know if Instagram is able to be cited here. If
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with an explanation "the claim is verifiable, and the video has been surfacing around a lot. The link is broken because
Knowledge is so itchy about citations. This is a video uploaded by a news organisation and is translated accurately" to restore content with a broken youtube link in the lead. This
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I suggest changing from "The blockade has caused significant economic hardship upon the
Palestinians" to "The blockade has caused significant economic hardship within Gaza" as that is both more accurate and more consistent with English idiom. The phrase "caused... hardship upon" is not idiomatic and
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If a Doctor comes from a faraway land and treats injured from "both sides" equally, they do not need to be placed under a particular side. In fact, MDA have a mandate to do exactly this and will treat anyone they can, including
Palestinian fighters who have caused carnage (not that I think that they
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These are unwilling participants who are being killed by being caught up in the middle of the conflict, despite not necessarily taking a side. This is particularly true of young children, who do not have a mental capability to understand, to even be able to take a side. The only ones supporting them
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I appreciate your compromise effort. But man I honestly don't thint it's necessary to highlight those nicknames. They're propaganda terms made to boost morale and make govs look good. Like Israel's "protective edge" (cringe) and Russia's "Special operation" (super cringe). Furthermore they're still
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If it is absolutely decided that
Civilians do not deserve a place of equal footing in the info box, my backup argument is that they should be included above the militants in the info box or of its own infobox above the military one, as they are the most important by virtue of being innocent and not
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As it becomes known (if at all) that a civilian was supportive of a particular side, then by all means, they should be moved under the banner of which their align to. Note that it would be hard to be a "Citizen of Hamas" because Hamas is not a country and is itself a militant organisation so how is
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This is fair, there are certainly advantages to the module map that make it worth using. I do not mind that we still link to it in the infobox. Some sort of interpolated border would be very useful for visually conveying the scale of the conflict, though I do not know how challenging this would be.
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There is a gray area often bought up, particularly from the Israel side, when
Palestinians use rocks or malee to injure/kill civilians or IDF. I am not totally sure how to handle that circumstance, but in an ideal world where there is enough evidence to go through these cases, I would lean towards
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There are two kinds of terrorists. The first are terrorists that kill innocent civilians in public places, with no military purpose or warfare-based strategic goal. 221 The second are terrorists that engage in warfare, within theaters of combat, against military targets (soldiers, service members,
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Don't you think that Israel-Palestine conflict is in a bit of a unique situation compared to other conflicts where it isn't 100% clear cut that subjects of
Israeli-controlled territory don't necessarily align with the national identity of Israel? Perhaps on that basis, this is the correct venue to
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I don't think either of these are perfect, but I do think that the previous one is easier to interpret and more informative. It is possible that the older one contains outdated information and therefore would not be appropriate to use right now, but I would appreciate if the map displayed visually
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There is already mention of civilian casualties with attribution and using newer figures: "The Palestinian Ministry of Health led by Hamas in Gaza reported Israel had killed at least 400 Palestinians in gunfights and by airstrikes, including civilians, 78 children and 41 women." The new links you
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Agree with others, if this was added here this rationale could really be used in most conflicts. I'm also not sure the point? We have a casualties section which typically delineates between civilians and fighters. If they were fighting together as some sort of militia group with its own wikipedia
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Hi all, Like many, I am deeply frustrated with never ending conflicts. I believe that a major error in the reporting of such conflicts including by Wikipedians, is that it is always being presented as a two-sided conflict, when actually it is always a three-sided conflict where the third side is
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In line 10 on the lead, this following, "which took place almost exactly fifty years before the current attacks." I want to change the word, "current" to "2023" where it says, "which took place almost exactly fifty years before the 2023 attacks." Even though I met the qualifications, I wanted to
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For all we know, they could be a person of Israeli citizenship who does not politically align with the state of Israel (They could be a Palestinian living in Israel, for example). It could be a Palestinian living in Gaza who does not align with the values of Hamas. It could be someone of another
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If we are to use dotted lines and display Palestine differently, there's a way to do it that avoids those problems, which is the only reason why I drew attention to that other map. It's fine in spite of its dotted lines and differentiated Palestinian borders for the simple reason that it doesn't
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Respectfully, Palestine is in a unique situation among polities with limited international recognition in that its borders were agreed upon by the United Nations itself, so these are still "internationally recognized borders" unlike most unrecognized or partially recognized polities. On a highly
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It is disingenuous to equate a Palestinian or Gazan as someone who supports Hamas (and it might not be safe to elicit a true answer) and it is disingenuous to equate an Israeli or Jewish person as someone who supports the Israeli Government. So to include them in the info box under a particular
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SVG map of the region has to be used and that's the one they went for. Second, there is no highlighted regions on the map because there is no definite "front line" between two armies. Militant infiltrators have attacked separate towns and points but haven't linked into a unified offensive line.
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Knowledge is an encyclopedia. We have created an article based on hours old info from limited original sources often known for highly biased information on multiple sides. Why are some editors in such a rush? We are not here to scoop the networks. Wait until we have multiple analyses. There is
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As it stands right now, civilian non-combatant casualties are not separated out at all anymore. This is really a reflection of how seriously Knowledge (and people involved in this topic at large) really care about civilian casualties. It is just a foot note or and now not even mentioned at all
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Just wanted to express that I dislike the current map (Israel-war-Oct-8-2023.png) for a number of reasons. Firstly, it puts the Gaza Strip and West Bank in a dotted line as opposed to a solid line, implying that it's a disputed territory and not an internationally recognized border, which is a
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Sure, I’ve already undone my girlboss reverts for the limit I am allowed for this page (though I messed up by accidentally undoing the entire page to a previous version which I am trying to get around). I have removed the loosely or ambiguously sourced claims in my edits, while getting better
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on the lede than on a special section. Also, the text was moved just one paragraph down; comprehension is not affected in any shape or form. If you like etymology sections (actually nickname sections) so much please create one on the Columbine page explaining that the perpetrators' nicks were
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Apologies for the miscommunication, Veggies. I can see how bringing up that map would create confusion as I brought it up as more of an "if we're gonna do it this way, there's a wrong way and a right way to do it" side point, not as an example of what I'm asking us to do here. To be clear, my
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Please change "Some Arab League countries such as Oman, Yemen, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and non-Arab countries like Iran and Pakistan" to "Some Arab League countries such as Oman, Yemen, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and non-Arab League countries like Iran and Pakistan" This would make clear that they're
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problem. But I also dislike that there's low contrast between the colors in the towns where fighting is ongoing and there is no highlighted outline of the region where fighting is ongoing unlike the previous map, which makes it visually more difficult to understand the scale of the conflict.
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We would be derelict in our duty if we failed to have this article and keep developing it as the war proceeds. Waiting until "the dust has settled" is an empty, unhelpful cliché. Who gets to decide when the dust has finally settled? Some random person on the internet? I have heard countless
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That is the whole point, to converge onto Civilian casualties without attribute them to a particular 'side', because they are not an either binary side, they are on the side of being innocent, getting caught up in the middle (also a deliberate choice to place them in the middle in the info
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The IDF does take significant steps to reduce killing or injuring civilians, but when the terrorists use them as shields hurting them is sometimes inevitable. They also recognize the fact that civilians are not terrorists, but some times it takes time for them to be sure how many are each.
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Normally, a map that has a mix of solid borders and dotted borders with no key or legend explaining what the borders mean will visually imply that the dotted borders are less legitimate than the solid borders. This is usually fine when we're talking about breakaway/insurgent polities with
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In an article about a subject that is leading to a large number of deaths and is likely to incite further deaths, I would think an encyclopedia ought to wait for the dust to settle. We currently live in a world filled with misinformation which has caused so many problems. We are
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There are some who embrace the State of Israel, but others who reject the State of Israel, despite holding citizenship, or being eligible to hold citizenship (or technically are) but refusing to get an ID/passport on ideological grounds, and prefer the term "Palestinian" over
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Even if you do not agree that non-belligerents deserve a front-seat in the conversation (and shame on you), to attribute them to a particular side is impossible given the level of reporting. All we know is what side of the border that they happened to be on when it happened.
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I'm glad you asked. It is very hard to determine the precise definition based on media reports, but essentially, I have done some more research when posting this and there is a logical difference between a "combatant terrorist", "non-combatant terrorist" and "non-combatant
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But enough about that side convo, I regret bringing up that other map in the first place as it clearly just derailed the discussion. Just to be clear again, my preferred position is to either have no solid borders at all or to use the same border type for both sides of the
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There is a point of concern that I would have to ask. There have also been Palestinian civilians killed in direct clashes in the West Bank in support of what happened in Gaza. While I'm not sure if they've been included in the infobox, how will your proposal address that?
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They're different numbers. Israel is saying they have killed 400+ fighters inside Israel, while the Palestinian Ministry of Health (Gaza) has said that 370+ have been killed in airstrikes on Gaza. We need to clarify this to prevent further confusion; see the discussion at
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I know, that's why i put "Hamas Terrorists" in brackets. The only real sources we have of dead and wounded are either from the Israeli IDF or from the Hamas and palestinian health ministry. Both have interest to make their side look good and the other look bad.
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For Ukraine, I am very much in favour, as well as Northern Ireland, or any other conflict of civilian non-combatant targeting, especially where their national allegiance can be easily determined (for example, indiscriminate attacks in disputed territory).
4411:. You can summarize RS's, but you have to cite them somewhere; or there has to be consensus that a statement is obvious, in which case you don't need an explicit citation. But going ahead and doing your own statistics on the list we have compiled here is
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If you see it fit I think you should go for it. I only reverted it because you specieded hamas and the invasion included multiple factions (I was under an assumption that militants in general were in the city, not specifically hamas), so slay
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added regarding "198 casualties" appear to be old versions of the Ministry of Health statistics, without differentiation of civilian or military casualties nor citing "Israeli bombardement of civilian targets" as the cause of the casualties.
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and inaccurate map for proof of why we need that. They are intricately clickable, allowing users to go to the module and see what all points of interest are and go to their respective articles. So, why did you remove it from the article? --
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I like the version "Israel-war-Oct-8-2023.png" because its more accurate with showing Palestinians' presence only where it was reported. The old map made it seem like Palestinians occupied the entire blue area, when that's probably not the
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German-Israeli citizen kidnapped. She kidnapped with a group of tourists. She was at the party in Reim forest. According to the documentation they published, the terrorists stripped, beat her and spat on her. They transferred her to Gaza.
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Hamas cited these events in the justification for the offensive, with Mohammed Deif, the commander of its military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, called on Palestinians and Arab Israelis to "expel the occupiers and demolish the
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So ideally, humanitarian efforts supporting civilians are listed without being sided either except on the side of civilians, unless they also support a particular side at the same time, then they are essentially on two sides at the same
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Al-Quds Brigades are a wing of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, which is noted as a belligerent. And we do not include "supporters" in military conflict infoboxes any longer, with exceptions only when there is a page-specific consensus.
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non-extended-confirmed editors may not make edits to internal project discussions related to the topic area, even within the "Talk:" namespace. Internal project discussions include, but are not limited to, AfDs, WikiProjects, RfCs,
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And that would run into improper synthesis territory. If reliable media in the future (Knowledge itself is a tertiary source) starts reporting civilians as a "third side", then we can change our infobox. That has not happened yet.
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are the medics are working tirelessly to save them. By not including them on equal footing, it is also suggesting that civilian victims are not as important as military casualties. In fact, I think that they are more important.
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I agree that Abbas' statement should also be removed. But we should summarize Hamas' position in the lead very briefly (just as we summarize the Israeli position). The more full statement should be in the body and not the
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in the heat of battle, or he was out supporting civilians not of any side (and the civilians without a side were actually present in that battle), yeah, I would support his inclusion. But really beside the point isn't it.
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Problem is, civilians are not under an umbrella either. Nothing unites say, an Israeli civilian killed by shelling versus a Palestinian civilian killed by shelling except for shared bad luck. Adding in groups like the
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members of a tactical force, etc.), and with military objectives. 222 Brothers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, responsible for the Boston marathon bombing, are in the first group. Irek Hamidullin is in the second group
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I disagree. The three sources that have cited excerpts from his 10-minute statements have taken different sentences, but all of them have focused on his references to the occupation, which the summary above omits.
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I will wait for both videos to surface on mainstream news websites, for now I get it being reverted. Flow of new information makes citing more difficult because it’s localised to these specific websites for now
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Notice to all participants. I have uploaded the map in .svg format after a significant compression of the original file. It should be available for anyone to edit now. Additionally seam errors have been fixed.
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I might argue that MDA is supporting both Civilians and IDF, while RC is supporting both Civilians and Hamas, and could be listed twice in that regards, as they don't discriminate based on combatant status.
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referring to countries that are not part of the Arab League, rather than bringing up a non-settled debate about whether or not Iran and Pakistan are Arab countries, which is not the point of the sentence.
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This is primary a military conflict, with its own conventions and it would make every conflict more convoluted than it is already. Imagine having Henri Dunant listed as a field commander in the Battle of
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To my understanding, we do not change the status quo. However, is there anything preventing us from having multiple varieties of English (defence and defense in different sentences, say) in the article?
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The current text says "Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and Nigeria called for de-escalation", that is quite problematic as dozens of countries have called for de-escalation, not just these ones.
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There is already a third casualties parameter in the conflict infobox template for covering civilian casualties. There is nothing unique about this conflict or any other. The same style guide applies .
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2216:: It's important to separate civilians and combatants in order to get a clear picture of the events. Yes, I know in modern conflicts like this the line between the two can be quite murky, but still. -
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Actions in the West bank should count into this crisis. Its just primarily in and around Gaza. The WB and norther israel-lebanon border could also be counted at being connected with the Gaza-crisis.
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criticisms of Knowledge over the years, but if we did not have an article about this war, that would bring on the most devastating criticism by far in the past 22 years, and I would agree with that.
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According to the military corresponded from "Times of Israel", Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian, the palestinian health ministry claims that there are 370 killed and 2'200 injured on the Plestinian side.
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This isn't the first major, rapidly moving event that is covered on Knowledge as it happens. We have done this from the first day, and will doubtlessly continue to do so. The earliest edits at
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Yes, that's a good idea. And similar edits, that involve updating language like "current" or things that will age out, can be edited BOLDLY, in my view. But it's good that you sought input. --
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preference is either to have no solid borders at all (like in the old map) or to use the same border style for all polities involved. But just to make sense of what I was trying to say there:
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Deif's statement, as head of Hamas, holds more importance in the lede than Abbas' statement, head of the PA. Your "summarization" removed the relevant former and kept the irrelevant latter.
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Yes. There should probably be no individual statements or quotes in the lead at all. It's already far too bloated and a long way divergent from the summary-style form it is meant to take.
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3019:". I am simply stating that no one else besides you and I had participated in this dispute. I'll repeat once again that you can edit the current file in many ways as I have explained.
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As I said, I won't try to restore the section again, but I find it kinda telling that your main argument for opposing the section seems to boil down to "I don't like it". Just saying.
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2233:: as per other opposes, there are already parts of the infobox to put the desired info in, and it doesn't make logical sense to have a category of belligerents and non-belligerents.
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Why do we need a RS for that? We are summarizing RS's here. Do we have an RS that "Most countries condemned Hamas" (as stated in the lead), even though its fairly obvious they did?
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Non-combatants are not belligerents- casualties for civilians are covered at the bottom of the infobox. Civilian agencies operating during the war aren't relevant for the infobox -
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it is convention on wikipedia to have a separate section for names (its often called "etymology"). I would respectfully keep the names section separate from the background section.
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I have fixed the error and cited the relevant sources. I included this in the section because it seems to revolve around the civilian casualties of the war as opposed to military
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there, before the terms actually appear on the text. And even without this "glossary" it's perfectly possible to understand what is being talked about without them all together.
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At the moment, RS media outlets are reporting it hand-in-hand with the events in and around Gaza. If sources explicetly state its not linked I have no objection to removing it.
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I would not automatically count on Arabs living within Israel proper as being on the Israel side, unless there is evidence to support their allegiance to one side or the other.
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because everyone wants to claim a civilian as "one of their own" to use for propaganda purposes against the other side rather than a genuine concern about civilian casualties.
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I prefer module maps because they can be sourced better and updated by consensus on EnWiki (Commons doesn't allow overwriting of ordinary files for "Substantial changes"; see
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linked to this talk page without discussion, can you go on talk and achieve consensus for your obviously contested claims in the lead that have been raised by both me and @
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stating "Important to mention in the civilian casualties" and adding in claims of such as "200 civilian casualties" in wikivoice. I was unable to find this verified in the
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to make Palestine's borders look different from the rest, there's a better way to do it. Hope that clears that up, but if it doesn't, don't worry because it's not relevant.
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A middle ground would be "Hamas cited these events as justification for the offensive and called on Palestinians outside of Gaza to join the fight against the occupiers."
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I suggest something so silly?) We form a consensus that RS are using primary sources from all involved with expert analysis tying it together. Knowledge has no deadline.
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No offense, but you are wrong. Firstly, as both VR and I pointed out, terminology sections are extremely common for conflicts with many and/or disputed names, such as
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All fronts are connected: Gaza, Lebanon, West Bank, all part of the Iranian strategy, headed by the Quds force, to encircle Israel and make a multi front war on her.
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Your map is a stitch job—and not a good one. I can see the seams of where the different screenshots of the map you wanted were poorly stitched together. And you call
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internationally recognized ones, so a map that could visually imply that Palestine is a breakaway state within Israel as opposed to a separate country is problematic.
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3895:On a somewhat different topic, you added this
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2090:. You will be reported if you do this again!
1605:I am of course talking about the civilians.
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2554:For example, see the "Etymology" section at
1174:https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/138006
803:File:Israel and occupied territories map.png
4237:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C9f8Ff8M6E
2451:Uras, Umut; Gadzo, Mersiha; Humaid, Maram.
978:Map update - Palestinian presence in Ofakim
3222:Better to think of it as "armed conflict"
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4288:"Most" countries called for de-escalation
3353:repercussions and echoes around the world
2409:This adds too much clutter to an infobox.
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4587:Would agree with this. The likes of the
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480:page confirmed that it is deprecated. --
357:citation please? i have not heard this.
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