Talk:John Mayer/Archive 1

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can be some clouds in the sky. As for the statement being a self-evaluation by Mayer, I strongly feel that this is not made clear. What is clear is that the "proposal" is something out of his blog, but there is no indication that the evaluation of the proposal was done by Mayer himself in his blog. I have edited the sentence to introduce more attribution to Mayer for these opinions of the proposal: "Mayer regards his proposal as a mid-ranged approach to being ecologically aware: neither fearful nor ambivalent about global warming."

913:. There also seems to be too many dates. Some suggestions of what events can be left out: the prom, the satellite radio shows, even the Oprah, Letterman, and MacExpo appearances. (Unless you can find a source about him being an Apple user—which I know he is—and then link it to the MacExpo appearances. Just a humble suggestion there.) As for the events that remain, a lot of the descriptions can be trimmed down. IMHO, I don't think it's necessary to summarize his skit on 31: 1858:. Until it is reported (or possibly if he blogs about it), it has to remain out of an encyclopedic article. Secondly, the assertions that Mayer is playing a concert in support of Ron Paul do not appear to be true. No mention is made of such a show at either johnmayer.com or ronpaul2008.com. The only source cited appears to unequivocally make such a claim, but when "More event details" is clicked, one can find this wonderful tidbit: 2187:

perhaps talk about "John Mayer has a TV show" where John dressed up as a giant rat and interviewed unsuspecting fans, deliberately mispronouncing his name to anger the fans. Or his Esquire articles where he reviews his own album, giving it a B- and calling it somewhat 'creepy.' I would write the section myself but I don't really know that much about him. Perhaps you could also incorporate the "Portable John Inc." comment above.

1055:- Kept it, shortened it, reffed it, and mentioned that he has not received a formal diagnosis. I thought it should stay, as it often comes up in interviews, reviews, analyses, etc... and is said to influence his music (eg - "Bold as Love") and so is a relevant, though admittedly minor, fact in a well-rounded article about him. I tried to phrase it to reflect the somewhat dubious nature of the fact. 1083:— Definitely saw your points about flow issues. Changed name of "other endeavors" to "other projects." Didn't see how all of them could be coherently merged, though (OP are his deliberate side projects, SE are incidental occurrences of note, and "personal life" definitely didn't fit in those other two cats), but I did move "other projects" under the umbrella heading of "Career." 577:, and it does not say anywhere "that all albums where an artist provides a major contribution is considered to be a part of that contributors albums." The policy there is rough and incomplete. Thus, I have been operating on precedent, as well as what makes the most sense and what is most fair to the works. Works done by a band should be credited to the band 1866:) then we know he will be in Philadelphia to meet Dr. Paul and play for his supporters on November 10th. Whether you are a Ron or a John fan, I think we can all agree that America has lost its way. Let's bring these two influential people together for a day of fun and freedom in America's first great city, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 531:" as to remain consistent as all albums where Mayer is a primary contributor. Please do not delete this again. This is in keeping with the Wikiproject: Albums in relation to page consistency, in which you'll see that all albums where an artist provides a major contribution is considered to be a part of that contributors albums. 982:

left out. Please address these issues within a week, or else the nom fails. I hope it's a reasonable amount of time. I also might be checking in every now and then to see if everything's on the right track. Anyone else with suggestions to improve this article, please comment, or better yet, pitch in and edit! Thanks! -

956:. There are just too many that this article is bordering on being a fan site. IMHO, all the links under the "General" and "Interviews" subheaders can be taken out, but only the link to guitar tabs can be kept. I'd keep the RS site link to the Hendrix article, but take out the Dennen one, as it links to a fan site. 1713:-winning". The subject of the article is John Mayer, not his Grammy Awards. The lead sentence is supposed to identify the subject of the article. Mentioning Grammys there doesn't really identify him much (since his Grammys are not a fundamental topic of the article) and it casts him in a positive light. 2202:

John dressed up as a bear, not a rat. Anyway, some mention of his columns and stand-up is mentioned in the article, so there is evidence of his humor. Any statements of his eccentricy is an opinion, and thus would have to be substantiated by ample third party sources. I'm not opposed as long as it

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Under Awards, there is a line item that says Mayer received a Dundie Award. A Dundie Award was a (totally fictional) award given out on the NBC show "The Office" to people who worked in the office. (The character of Pam won for "Whitest Tennis Shoes," etc.) I could be wrong, but I don't think the

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his dad was the principle of the high school and he once took a walkman from a dude that ws listening to it in class... thats when mayer took it to listen to the stuff that was playing on the walkman that was lying in the principles office and it was a stevie ray vaughan record on the tape, which he

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been verified and diagnosed? I have that very issue of RS, and I'd take his comments with a grain of salt. I'm a fan of his too, and he has a warped sense of humor sometimes, that it's usually misinterpreted and brought out of context in the media. I think it's safe to just remove it, until he comes

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My "interpretation" of the fearful/ambivalent thing is due to a literal reading of the sentence. If his ideas are not completely fearful/ambivalent, it does not mean that they are absolutely not fearful/ambivalent. It is along the lines of this: if it is "not completely" cloudy today, there still

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John's opinion of his own campaign, and I think the article makes it pretty clear that this is coming from his blog, this is his own personal project and his personal ideas. If this were an ecological article, then his ideas would have to be substantiated, but this sentence is merely reporting one

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From what I am reading above, you have two misunderstandings (1) That a wikipedia editor interpreted his ideas and came up with this sentence and (2) that the sentence is saying that his ideas are fearful and ambivalent. Actually, this sentence is a summary of his blog entry that says exactly this

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Can someone explain the joke from Family Guy reference? The article simply states the joke; and expects average (non fans; or those who haven't read entire article) people to "get" it. Can the article be anymore ambiguous? I've noticed this in other articles on Wiki; though they aren't necessarilly

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Why is the information about Mayer's composing songs while naked in there? It adds nothing to the article, it is unsourced (and thus unverifiable), it doesn't fit in its section, and it doesn't fit with the general tone of the article. It seems to be a detail an obsessive stalker would obsess over.

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This seemed like a little much, and too vague. A juggernaut? Hardly, only a few musicians could realistically be called this based on sales or creativity, and John Mayer is not one of them. Its also stupid to say someone is influenced by the stylings of Hendrix and Clapton, as almost every modern

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Someone put the release date for Battle Studies as November 17, 2009. This is not right and they have no source. John Mayer has never said this nor has anyone else involved in the making of this album. I think the release should be changed back to TBD unless someone can find where the release date

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Near the beginning of the article, it says John Mayer first got a guitar at age 13 when his father rented one. Then later in "Career", it states "Mayer played the guitar for half a year before enrolling in the Berklee College of Music in Boston, Massachusetts, at the age of nineteen." I don't

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The article has some good copywriting and important, stable facts and at least one willing and hard-working editor around, which is why I don't think the GA nom should fail just yet. There's still significant improvement to be made, especially in whittling down all the detail that can be otherwise

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I've read the article several times over, as well as the peer reviews. The copywriting has definitely improved since a few months ago, so it passes the first GA criterion. (I quite like the writing in the lead and Early life sections, kudos!) I see no major problems either in the second and fourth

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I noticed in a picture I saw of John (it was a live show) that he wears dog tags (military issue with silencers). I wear tags like this, and I haven't been involved with the military, I was just wondering if John was ever in the military or involved with it. I'm trying to find that damn picture,

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i've read the copyright info. im not trying to cause a problem or anything. i know copyright stuff is serious. but basic information such as date of birth, place of birth, etc can only be said so many ways. when i get info from sources that give permisson to use, and it's also on other websites, i

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Would someone like to add a humor section in this article regarding John Mayer's eccentric personality? I think this is appropriate to add since it is very much a part of his life. John Lennon has a section dedicated to his strange humor because it was such a notable part of his persona. It could

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Japanese speakers: What do you make of John's red carpet comment? ジェシカはとてもすてきな女性で、一緒にいられて最高です。I really fail to see how "you're the last to know" comes into it. Totemo sutekina josei, very beautiful woman, pretty straightforward. I know Saikou = the best and isshoni = together, irarete = potential

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Also, I think, once you've trimmed down the Selected events section, the remaining content can be merged into the Other endeavors section. As it stands now: Other endeavors - Personal life - Selected events...the article doesn't flow well at this point. I also think you can come up with a better

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Album titles in the Selected collaborations section aren't properly formatted either. Stick to a consistent format for all the songs, whatever you'll define it to be. You might also want to remove the soundtrack entries, they're already mentioned in the discog article, and seem out of place in a

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article exists, all details, like sales, chart positions, and certifications can be included in that separate discography article. For a biographical article, a simple bulleted or tabulated list will suffice. For the list of albums, you can just list the title and years of release/re-release. It

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There have been a number of parodies and general critisms of Mayer, including jokes in Family Guy and other TV shows. Some people feel the John Mayer is the archetypal corporate rocker. Others argue that Mayer is too real, and that his vunerabiliy attracts derision due to the difficuly some "old

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By what standard is his proposal "mid-ranged," and who says this? Why are his ideas somewhat fearful and ambivalent, and what is meant by those words in this context? This sentence is rather subjective and needs work. I really don't know what the intention of the author was so I can't fix it

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Celebrity gossip sties are not acceptable as references for Knowledge. If a valid source comes up, it's fine, but the fact is, no valid (i.e. reliable) sources have published that they're together, especially since Mayer's been nonchalant and has not confirmed anything about their relationship.

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Celebrity gossip sites almost all reported that Mayer and Jessica Simpson have ended their relationship as of 5/18/2007. Someone may want to keep their eyes open for verification of this. Oh and since they are always off and on, someone should definitely watch his personal life section then.

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i think the comment about john mayer being a "musical genius" should be removed, because this kind of thing is completely POV. on john coltrane's entry, or johann sebastian bach's entry, this is acceptable because they are fairly established as being musical geniuses -- however john mayer has

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well i've been in contact with the person i got the information from. she does tell me she got it from someone else. so i do apologize for that. it was from a UK website, and the webmaster assured me in the beginning it was written by her and gave me permission to use it. sorry for the mix-up

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Does anyone has any reference to proof John Mayer does or does not have synaesthesia? This would be an important thing to mention in the article, and is of particular interest to me since I'm currently writing an article on synaesthesia in which I wish to name John Mayer as an example of a

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might also be a good idea to segregate his studio albums from his live albums. The singles section can also follow: a bulleted list and the years of release. Some musicians' articles use Wikitables to group together a singles discography by release dates and albums, but that's optional.

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In 2006, Martin announced the OMJM, John Mayer's second signature Martin Guitar. Unlike the OM-28 John Mayer, the OMJM is not a limited edition model. I think it would be good to have this in the article, but I don't know how to edit it without disrupting the flow of that section.

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Apparently someone added it again, and it has since been removed. Adjectives of praise or critism should not be in the opening statement (eg. DUI-convicted Nicole Richie, or Grammy-award winning actor Zach Braff, or accused-child-molester Michael Jackson, etc...).--Esprit15d •

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You're right. I checked out the sources cited for each claim, and the source for the "half a year" claim actually confirmed the "age 13" claim and said nothing about Mayer only playing for a half a year before Berklee. Not sure when that got added in. I've removed it.

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I removed the tour section. It was full of redlinks, and added virtually no notable information (it read Summer 2007 tour, Fall 2007 tour, Winter 2008 tour, etc...) The current touring section gives much more purposeful information about his tours to date.--Esprit15d •

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The work done since the nomination looks great. I am able to understand the rationale with Other projects vs. Selected events. All the details remaining in the article seem significant enough to merit inclusion, and nice touch with the music samples there.

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this is ridiculous. i hope you people enjoy spending your life checkin people's stuff and then accusing them of violating copyrights. i did not get that information from that website, as i keep saying i have permission to use all my information posted.

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I would love for this to become a good article, but it just isn't there yet. More citations, better prose, and written more like an acutal article - not to mention a intro that summarizes the article - would all get this article moving in the right

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I was thinking the same thing, and was going to make a note about it here, but seeing as I wasn't the only one thinking this, I decided to remove it. Someone can create a trivia or pop culture section and put it in there if they really want.

893:. I think his interest in designing/graphic design should also be included. He's mentioned it several times in interviews and in his blog for the past few years now. Just a few sentences will do. Make sure the facts are cited, of course. 319:"John allows audio taping at most live performances, and he also allows for the non-commercial trading of those recordings. The legal details are here." That link no longer works; it is to an agency that no longer works with John Mayer. 779:

What do people think about including the whole Jessica Simpson bit? Jennifer Love Hewitt is mentioned in this article, so it'd just be another romantic tidbit or whatever. Plus, there is the benefit of the fact that it was on a

2047:(I suggest you go read it, I added an archived link for you and anyone one else's convenience) and the sentence is saying that his idea is NOT fearful NOR ambivalent (in contrast with other global warning campaigns). This is 2113:

I just reverted a whole section in this article devoted to today's Perez Hilton "kissing" controversy. I feel this is a significant event, thus notable, and so should be included in the article. However, according to

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I removed teh paragraph about the December 8 show. The article is very long, John has probably done (just to my knowledge) probably 20 benefit concerts, and the individual ones are not very notable. The notablity of

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So I ask this question, and I expect an answer, I don't care who from. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HAVING LINKS TO FANSITES? at the very least have the toolbar link (the best John Mayer resource for daily updates on the web)

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John Mayer incorporated in the state of Georgia under the name Portable John, Inc. Here's the link to the filing with the state of Georgia. Not really sure how this fact could be worked in but it's kind of funny.

909:. This section is simply too long, and I think a lot of it can be trimmed down. It even seems longer than the first half of the article about his music. There is no need to go into intense detail here, please see 2122:

is only one section. This little incident hardly merits its own section. Also, since this is a featured article major re-writes and contentious additions should be discussed here first.--Esprit15d •

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John Mayer has not officially endorse anybody. He alway pulls gag conversations when he is in front of the papparazzi, and the night before his 30th birthday, he made a scene comparing Ron Paul to

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Many of these discographies have notes that wikilink to the appropriate article for the full band discography. Therefore, in the interest of consistency, that same model should be applied here.--

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of trimming, cut the talk shows, took out Chapelle descrips. etc... Kept MacWorld, b/c he has gone literally every year for the last few years, and is literally a fixture now. But I trimmed it.

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of his personal projects he's been working on the past year. All is all, I reinstated the sentence, but improved teh reffing to make the source of the sentence a little clearer.--Esprit15d •

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A lot of information has recently been added to this article without referencing. I will be making efforts to reference this information, and invited any other editors to do so as well.--

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seems (in context of the rest of the article), totally redundant, and breaks up the flow of the rest of the section. All those individual artists have already been mentioned (come twice

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Still if you search "This is very, very fast, and I promise to catch up." in quotes, you get far more results (all involving John Mayer at the Grammys). Perhaps he said both things?

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He actually was sent a Dundie from the producers of The office for allowing them to use his song "Your body is a Wonderland" in their annual Dundie Awards episode.--Esprit15d •

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reference JLH), but also the whole section doesn't make any sense. Starting out with an obscure ref on Family Guy, it then degenerates into what seems to be a personal attack.

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day guitarist is whether they realize it or not. Also,saying someone is an "accomplished guitarist" is a meaningless statement and objective too. Consider cutting. -Anonymous

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He offered to donate the sum to a charity of site editor Harvey Levin's choice - and will have to dig deep after resourceful journalists tracked down the incriminating snap.

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Alright, so no-one has adressed this. I'm changing it to "heard", cause it's illogical that you can "see" a musical influence on a music album. I don't suppose anyone can

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title than either "other endeavors" or "selected events". And once you have the merged section, I'd also suggest breaking it up with subheaders (TV, writing, or whatever).

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title than either "other endeavors" or "selected events". And once you have the merged section, I'd also suggest breaking it up with subheaders (TV, writing, or whatever).

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I have reverted the readdition of this content. Regardless of whether he was drunk, acting, playing around, a YouTube video does not satisfy Knowledge's requirement of

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well like i said i really am not trying to be a problem. i've posted a few other things before with no problems. thanks for being more understanding than some others

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I counted 3 times family guy was mentioned making fun of him, I'm sorry is this article about John Mayer or Family Guy making 1 random pop culture joke about him?

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Is a terribly written paragraph that is not backed up with any references at all. Stating that Mayer is 'too real' makes zero sense to me, as does the following

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There has been a recent rash of article editing in an attempt to convey that Mayer has died. This is likely due to what is an apparent hoax group on Facebook:

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Second, John Mayer had his own TV show on TV, I believe VH1, I've seen clips of it online, it's actually pretty damn funny, that should be in there somewhere.

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reference is verfiable. The JLH thing is nonsense, and so is the Humphreys over analysis - which isn't really appropriate for an encyclopedia article anyway.--

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That page is, in effect, an attempt to recruit Mayer to play a free concert. As such, it must stay out of the article for the same reasons as the first. —

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school" rockers have with the new "sensitive" rock. In any case, his strange movements in concert and strained vocals are certainly a subject of parody.

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Wiki admin horse? I removed them, once at least. I'm hardly even a very active Wikipedian, far be it an admin. Knowledge isn't a list of fan cites. I

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This user has a limited history and is not a registered user, so I am replying here instead of on the talk page, where they sent me a note personally.

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Yay! We hit 100 references on this article today. Unfortunately, the 100th was the reference about his parents getting divorced :( --Esprit15d •

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Mayer bet editors at TMZ.com they couldn't track down a mug shot taken of him, following his arrest in 2001 for driving with a suspended licence.

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production staff of The Office actually gave out Dundie Awards at any point, although that is pretty damn funny. Remove if necessary, I guess?

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3. a. (fig.) trans. To perceive mentally (an immaterial object, a quality, etc.); to apprehend by thought (a truth, the answer to a question)...

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Actually Google seems to be against you, not to mention the quote in the article is referenced. Googling your quote (in quotes) yields just

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on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this is

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FYI: There used to be a note here proposing that the page be moved from John Mayer (pop singer) to John Mayer (musician). This did happen.

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I've allready had three complaints from people asking why I removed them. I didn't. The jerk sitting on his magical wiki-admin horse did.

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That is not a good reason. Those fansite links are also not supposed to be there. You can't justify one policy violation with another.

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about which albums should be included on an artist's article (I just read the page). The policy that actually applies to this page is

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Probably the most logical place would be on the pages of the album articles. In fact, I would guess it is already mentioned there.--

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criteria (I've described the minor problems below), so my problem lies mainly in criterion 3b—there are just too many details here.

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i thought that his dad was a policeman and his mom was a teacher??? If i remembered that correctly from when he was on Oprah....

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form of "to be", so "it's the best to be together with her" is what it's looking like to me. Any natives want to drop a word in?

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Other issues (won't have to be fulfilled just yet to be granted GA status, but just a few ideas for further improvement)

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Other issues (won't have to be fulfilled just yet to be granted GA status, but just a few ideas for further improvement)

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I believe either is appropriate. "See" can indicate sight, or it can indicate sensory perception in general. From the

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his vunerabiliy attracts derision due to the difficuly some "old school" rockers have with the new "sensitive" rock

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I've made a bunch of changes to try to A- bring this more in line with some other formatted artist pages, such as

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Most of the time his "humor" seems to just be for his own benefit. It comes off more like mental instability.

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I agree. And I restored your version when another user reverted your reversion; I think it is in keeping with

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up with psychiatric verification. I'm just not totally convinced with the little evidence that there is on it.

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Also one section that I'm surprised is not included in this article is a list of awards and nominations (e.g.

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up with psychiatric verification. I'm just not totally convinced with the little evidence that there is on it.

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Guitarist John Mayer will have to hand over $ 25,000 to charity, after losing a bet over his criminal record

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He just announced that today, so I was right at the time in saying there was no confirmation on this date.

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Yesterday, the vandals had a field day. I'm going to go through today and route out some of the insanity.--

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specific concert would be the only reason I would think it would merit inclusion in the article.--Esprit15d

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I added it and sourced it directly to his status on Twitter so it shouldn't be a problem in the future.--

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Go to his facebook page and it clearly states that Battle Studies will be released on November 17, 2009.

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Need to update article to include recent John Mayer Two-Rock Signature Amplifier (see www.two-rock.com).

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I recommend that we keep the Family Guy reference and delete all the unfounded speculation and nonsense.

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when I removed them. Please follow policy, and also please avoid profanity/personal attacks. Thank you.

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is done briefly (since this is not a large part of his fame) and substantiated correctly.--Esprit15d •

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respectively. I'll look for a logical place for this information and post again if I update the page.

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definitely not reached this status in the musical community. this is an encyclopedia, not a fan-site!

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Well Rotten Tomatoes is my reference. I searched for the quote as I remembered it and got a match.

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Why in blue fu*k do the fan sites keep being removed from external links? they are valid links.

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appearance, but it's okay to summarize Mayer's one-off VH1 TV show, as has been already done.

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know what the correct age is, but there's a significant difference between 13 and 18/19.

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You can forward any replies, complaints, hatemail ect to: renee@musicianslovejohnmayer.com

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just get in the habit of using your own words. And keep working on Knowledge. We need you.

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Just write original work and we'll all be happy. Copyright is a serious issue. Please read

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Keep up the good work. I hope contributors can maintain this article's quality. Refer to

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i tried to organize this a little bit more, and i added info about his latest project.

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anyone know what brand/model of guitar is pictured on the cover of room for squares?

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contemporary famous synaesthete, but cannot find any reference to this on the web.

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As nominator. The musician is clearly what's intended when typing "John Mayer." --

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Actually he was in Amsterdam on his Birthday, playing in Amsterdam the day after.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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The wikipedia-article on the neuropsychological condition of Synaesthesia (

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John Mayer is often referred to as "the best guitarist of our generation."

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Then how come the Dave Matthews Band entry, for instance, has fansites?

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Archive this page. It is very very long. 16:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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too many family guy references and his own TV show wasn't even mentioned

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Yes, but I don't think that was what he was wearing. It was probably a

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In the seperate article with the actual list of famous synaesthetes (

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The Guitar fest was in 04 so why does it say he transitioned in 05?

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal.

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Shouldn't this be "heard on his album...", it being a music album?

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.

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Although Mayer has maintained a reputation for being a sensitive

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If there is no opposition, I will be removing the sentence then.

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cover only for him to say that it was overblown by her camp...

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If John Mayer is as big of a Ron Paul supporter as he claims (

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jokes (info tends to be ambiguous or even confusing, etc.)

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says John said that he wrote his first album semi-nude and

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completely naked. This tidbit is further verified in a

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FYI: According to an NPR interview (with John) he wrote

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John Mayer born a female, can someone please explain.--

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What is your source, and who has given you permission?

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Somewhere in the article, it should be mentioned that

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when in doubt, especially on criteria 2, 3b, and 4. -

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http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?75064

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http://stthomas.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2229180514

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section that's supposed to be about collaborations.

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