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Rousseau, ignores the hundreds of biographies written in French in the first place, and all the others written in dozens of other languages. Checking your facts is done by turning firstly to primary sources, not secondary ones, and written in the original language - many things are lost in translation, or just translated wrongly - and then the secondary ones. Checking facts when writing or commenting foreign personas is made easy by going to the Knowledge-page in the relevant language.
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Looking at all the discussions, it seems to me that there are and have been many, many misunderstandings because of the fact that most native
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Antandrus, you're right: and in 1755-6, as a reaction to the immense (overwhelming) success due to his
Discourses, he drew back from the mundane scene and for a while he chose to live off copying sheet music... he could'nt stand popularity. (and: he wrote some musical theory articles for the
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An anon recently made some changes to the bio, particularly altering the order of some items; I've brought this back into line with my timeline of
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This comment is untrue. An idea of the "noble savage" --thought it may have differed from that of the
British--certainly existed in the French colonial context. For more information about French racial thinking, see
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Plutarch is not listed as an influence. However, Rousseau cites Plutarch throughout his work; the only person who is referenced more by Rousseau is Plato.
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