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660:(with an accompanying citation verifying so). To complicate matters further, there is a section further down here that has theme-specific compilations (anthologies and retrospectives). To cite my own view of them, the albums in the first section all have either previously unreleased recordings from different sources (not intended for a single album release, or assembled with new mixes and overdubbed musical parts, with a stray track here and there), which would qualify them as "compilations". I do not like the idea of trying to categorize this messy discography, but I don't like the current "studio recordings" concept either; other sections of albums here have studio recordings, too, and the second one-- 386: 804: 404: 620:- A rarities compilation is a compilation that features previously unreleased and otherwise rare songs; "rare" is distinguished from "well-known" (as you said). But you rejected that proposal. In fact, strike the above: my vote is for rarities compilation or studio-recording compilations. And this RfC does not necessarily have to lead to a determination; it is just the surest way of encouraging outside opinion here. 355: 219: 545: 756: 516:
says "generally the tracks were not originally intended for release together as a single work" (with an accompanying citation to verify this definition in that article), and nearly all the first section's album articles have a source cited verifying the claim that they are compilation albums. For the
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In an attempt to compromise, the designations "Studio recordings", "Live albums", and "Anthologies and retrospective albums" were used. However, with no discussion, Dan56 changed "Studio recordings" to "Rarities compilations". When this was reverted, he decided to lump together all the albums that
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As of now, this article categorizes the first section of albums as "studio recordings" (and the accompanying infobox lists 12 studio albums, although this does not add up and appears incorrect whichever way you see it). Each of the first section's articles, however, have them filed as "compilation"
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It is unclear want Dan56 wants to do here: is renaming "Studio recordings" as "Compliations" just a first step to again mix all the "Anthologies and retrospective albums" together in a larger "Compilation albums"? One source used to show "Compilation albums" appears to be from a
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The topic of this discussion originated from a content dispute at one of these album articles, so it seems best to solicit outside opinion. How should the first section be categorized? (Feel free to come up with a different idea that has been mentioned so far, by the way)
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Self-published apparently, yet still discussed in an expert source, which says Faralaco "cribbed relentlessly from" another writer and expert's work, which helped him reach the conclusion the album is a compilation. Unless, you were trying to make another point...
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were under the "Studio recordings" and "Anthologies and retrospective albums" into a single "Compilation albums" heading. This is confusing to the reader because leaves them unclear as to whether album is a collection of well-known Hendrix songs (such as
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I think this RfC is premature and Dan56's invitation to "Feel free to come up with a different idea that has been mentioned so far, by the way" should be explored without the pressure of having to immediately take a side and
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You are mischaracterizing the relationship between the articles and the sources supporting them as "compilations". Multiple reliable sources support the categorization, many to Hendrix expert John McDermott;
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sake of generalizing these releases (which is the idea to begin with by having them grouped all under one section heading), "compilation" suits them better than "studio". Third-party source evidence -
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In some cases, the incorrect album has been cited as the source of the single. This applies particularly regarding singles released in the UK. For example, the Album citation for "Voodoo Chile" (the
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This might be against the convention of these discography articles, but maybe sectioning the albums by decade of release would be simpler and avoid the overlap and question of category-definition.
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is to identify which edition of the album the single/song appears on. For example, in the Album column for his first few singles, it shows "
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refers to the fact it is misnamed on the record, it is "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)") / "Hey Joe" and "All Along the Watchtower" is
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Should a page for the new box set titled Electric Lady Studios: A Jimi Hendrix Vision is (coming out September 13th 2024) be made?
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in the UK, it was the first single and was released in December 1966, five months before the release of the UK version of
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the first page of a new and increasingly scrambled ... the prospect of a series of such LPs (which in truth were
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it self-published?? Or are you just throwing that out there carelessly to paint a negative picture?) Even
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and the Album column should take that into account when referring to UK and US single releases.
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RfC: Should the first section of albums be categorized as "studio" or "compilation albums"?
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this RfC. The RfC was explicitly created for the purpose of soliciting
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verifying it is a comp. The Hendrix "expert" John McDermott verifies
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Basically, it boils down to there being two different versions of
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articles and lists. If you would like to participate please visit
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from uninvolved editors, and the RfC statement was open-ended (
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Studio albums, Live albums, and Compilation albums, as is the
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