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say that raw google counts should be "used with extreme caution" and other than that there were no good reasons for the move. In fact one of the editors in favour of the move was then blocked for sockpuppetry. And in addition to the reason mentioned by AjaxSmack above there are other good reasons to
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Abkhazia... The district is smaller than the Ochamchire district in the de jure subdivision of Georgia", so I'd put it as follows (also considering that in
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No do what you want but that entity so called republic is located on
Georgian sovereign territory (recognized by UN), district is not hypothetical it is in connection with sovereign territory, so first discuss and then change, I am reverting.
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I hit enter before writing full comment: "rv, this is the article about the district of
Abkhazia, which is different from Georgian district of the same, so having Georgian flag here would make the matter even more confusing to the reader"
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Your arguments have small weight nobody says to actual people living there to speak something different but
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