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similarity to nonparametric regression curves and was still suggestive of the original word. The exact details of whether it should still be thought of as an acronym were a little vague at that time - I don't recall Bill saying "it's not an acronym any more" (this would have been before the 1988 paper, his views may have become more set later). I'd say it's at least arguably still a kind of acronym and you do see "LOcally wEighted Scatterplot Smoother" written out. You're right that Cleveland nearly always writes it as "loess" but fairly common usage has "LOESS" (while others write "Loess"). It's not completely clear that we should say 'LOESS is wrong', whatever Bill's view of it. We should have consistency in the article, and on that basis it's perhaps easy enough make an argument for following Cleveland's practice on this, but "erroneous" is perhaps too strong.
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prioritised over the inventor's preference (and even over formal rules, had any of them contradicted this). First, it is easier to scan a technical text for model names when they have many capitals. Second, this serves as an unambiguous indication (in the beginning of a sentence or elsewhere) that a reader is dealing with a name of some method rather than a common noun. This is especially helpful to readers who are not very proficient in English or statistics (sounds like a good chunk of Knowledge's target audience).
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Weight (w) = 1 - (2|d| - d^2)^0.5, where d is the distance along the horizontal axis of the data-point from the point you want to estimate, scaled so the maximum distance is 1? Below I've included an example of its application on Australian youth unemployment data with the trend-line being based on a
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I've also included a second version with the same data, basing the trend-line weights on Weight (w) = (1 - (2|d| - d^2)^0.5)^0.5, extending the smoothing range to 19 data-points either side, and adding interpolated points based on the average of the adjacent trendline points plus or minus an eighth
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Thanks for the references, it is good to have them at hand and also to learn something new. You are correct that I ignored the difference between acronyms and initialisms, and that LoESS is of the former type. Nevertheless, I protest against writing all-small letters (loess) or capitalising it like
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has some semantic substance. A loess (pronounced "1ō' is") is a deposit of fine clay or silt along river valleys; in a vertical cross-section of earth, a loess would appear as a narrow, curve-like stratum running through the section." I would vote for both "no w" and "lower case" as the rules to be
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The article reads as if Cleveland's loess is all there is in local regression. I think there's plenty of presentations of local regression without the "robustness" parts that loess has in there. I think it would make for a cleaner, more understandable presentation to have a more generic article on
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I was hoping to learn what I'd have to do to get from the weights to a Lowess regression, but this article doesn't really specify the method in a way that can be easily followed. The article mentions Cleveland (1979), but provides no links to the text. Would a circular-function-based weighting be
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Having heard Bill talk about LOWESS before he started calling it LOESS and again after, the story was to me not quite so clear. LOWESS is the original acronym, and when he did a presentation to geologists, they suggested that he drop the "W" from the acronym because loess did often have a visual
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Pronounceable abbreviations that are made up of bits of words should be written as proper nouns, ie, with an initial capital letter. Examples include Unicef, Mercosur, Frelimo, but there are hundreds of these in common use. Note that only the initial letter is capitalised – unless the word is a
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One may argue that LOESS is established well enough, or that there are other situations in which acronyms can be written in small letters, but I do not buy that. Common sense suggests that there are practical advantages of writing LOESS or LoESS (as compared to loess or Loess), which should be
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Back I come, one year later, and the variables are still not defined. Perhaps no one is watching the talk page. If anyone is feeling like they own this page, please step up. Otherwise...section should be rewritten to normal standards (defining variables that appear in equations).
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of the difference between the average of the immediately adjacent trendline points and the average of the next closest trendline points (increasing it if the far points are lower than the near points, and vice versa). It produces a result very similar to Lowess smoothing.
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Since the mathematics behind this method of statistical analysis may not be understandable to anyone who has not done an undergraduate maths or statistics degree, is it perhaps appropriate to "dumb down" the introduction paragraphs slightly?
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I'm not a maths graduate, but I was exploring non-parametric locally-weighted trend-lines, and I was just wondering if anyone uses weights based on the formula for the bottom-left corner of a circle of radius one centered at (1,1), ie
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In fact, you seem to be confusing acronyms with initialisms, which, strictly speaking, loess is not (not only it constitutes a pronounceable abbreviation, but it is composed of fragments of its composite words, not their initials:
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it is frequently mentioned that loess is computationally expensive. this is a bit unscientific. it would be nice to have either asymptotic complexities (big o), or specific examples of problem sizes/computations.
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Much of the introduction is taken word-for-word from the . I'm not sure if this is a copyright problem or not, since the NIST site seems to be a Federal government publication (there is no copyright notice).
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radius of nine data-points. It does not use regression techniques, nevertheless, it sure fits the data a lot better than the simple asymmetric (lagged) and unweighted moving averages built into Excel.
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Where the acronym has existed for a long time and become fully established in the language, it is written with small letters (or with one capital letter if it is at the beginning of a sentence):
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Generally, rules for capitalizing abbreviations follow the rules for capitalizing the original words. Proper nouns are capitalized in abbreviations; common nouns are not.
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There are a lot of places where variables are not defined. This article needs work. The NIST page referenced does, however, define n, so I'll add that to the page.
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local regression (referencing any number of sources) and within that a substantial section on LOWESS/loess (which is important but not the whole area).
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consistent with Cleveland (1979)? I notice that it would have more of a spiked-central weighting than any of the weighting functions mentioned in
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Acronyms are words which are formed from the first letters of other words, and which are pronounced as full words. Examples of acronyms:
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Alternatively, it would be useful if the article included a brief summary of the recommended conditions for a weighting system.
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That note is rather useless, since although it says that the material comes from the NIST website, but does not state
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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I'm pretty sure there's an E in it for the same reason there's an O in it. It's not a true acronym. It's "
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Cleveland named his method "loess", not "LOESS"; the name is not an acronym, but a reference to
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/abbreviations-initials-and-acronyms
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https://web.archive.org/web/20050912090738/http://www.stat.purdue.edu/~wsc/localfitsoft.html
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most proper nouns (Loess). Let me further quote the Cambridge Dictionary reference you used
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From the Cleveland and Devlin article (1988), "The shortened name
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