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In the 'Properties' section (1.3), before the bullet point about the bijection between prime ideals in the ring and in the localisation, there should be a bullet point about the bijection between ordinary ideals of the ring and the localisation; the bijection of the prime ideals is then a restriction
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A recent edit suggested inverting a multiplicative system containing an ideal. However, every ideal contains 0, so the localization at any multiplicative system containing an ideal is the zero ring. I think they just meant the semigroup containing a specific element, which might as well be written
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I have a strange feeling the citation at the bottom should be Lang's Algebraic Number Theory. I know of no book by him entitled "Analytic Number Theory," and furthermore, the information in this article falls under algebraic number theory, not analytic.
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I agree it’s a very good idea to mention the bijection doesn’t restrict to maximal ideals (counterexample I can think: R = 2-dimensional ring, finitely generated as an algebra over a field, and p height-one prime, then pR_p is maximal while p isn’t.) —-
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I think the author has the wrong definition of "total ring of fractions," which I believe is a very specific localization, namely the localization of a ring with respect to the multiplicatively closed set of all non-zero-divisors in that ring.
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Also, Taku's example may be generalized as: If p is any non-maximal prime ideal, then pR_p is maximal. Another example is: if R is a local ring of dimension higher that one, and S contains a non-unit non nilpotent element, then
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Are you sure there is such a bijection for ideals not just prime ideals? If I recall, there is such one for primary ideals but not sure about ordinary ideals. In any case, one need a ref for such a statement.
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restrict to a bijection of maximal ideals. The reason I have not made this edit myself is because I do not know a counterexample for the maximal ideals.
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I believe that the end of the article contains an error. Micro local analysis has nothing to do with (micro) localization, as far as I understand.
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Oh wait, upon rereading it I see of course the author did make that mistaken claim about the annihilator. I went ahead and took it out.
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of course you're right on the dyadic fractions. Concerning etymology, does the word come from turning rings into local rings? -
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First of the properties listed ($ S^{-1}R = 0$ iff $ 0 \in S$ ) appears to be wrong. S may also contain nilpotent element.
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The problem seems to be a disconnect between this statement and the use of Ann(S) in the rest of the paragraph.
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It seems that integers are being embedded into dyadic fractions, contrary to what is stated in the article.
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of this bijection. There should also be a bullet point afterwards saying that the bijection between ideals
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Did I miss something ? I think the usual theorem states that this is supposed to be an isomorphism of
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So there is no injectivity. The true result is that there is a bijection between the ideals of
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are isomorphic if and only if they have the same saturation, or, equivalently, if
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I propose the article be renamed 'Localisation (commutative algebra)' or similar
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I'm not an algebraic geometer, so I offer somebody who is one to take a look.
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Maximal ideal when localizing versus (the complement of ) a prime ideal
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the explanation is a little muddled. I'll take a look at it tonight.
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the non-prime intersection of two ideals. Then the localization at
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whose all associated prime ideals have an empty intersection with
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Thank you for pointing this out: this has now been corrected.
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belongs to one of the multiplicative set, then there exists
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is merely the set of zero divisors. Another example is
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are already saturated and different from each other.
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