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have to say that I have no dog in this fight, that is I am not affiliated with PMI or any of their critics. This article resulted from my own curiosity about the source of the Iranian vessel/hijacking story, which I came upon in a different source but lead me to PMI. I realize that there is not much material out there about PMI and so they may not be regarded by the Knowledge (XXG) community as significant. If this page is deemed non-significant then so be it, but I am of the philosophy that if a news company can make measurable impact on the web then it is worthy of mention. A Google search of "iranian ship sick pirates long war" received 68,700 hits, which suggests that the impact is not small. --
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not violate the synthesis policy when I typed my claims If you read the synthesis article properly, you will also find it claims a statement like "Smith claimed that Jones committed plagiarism by copying references from another author's book. Jones responded that it is acceptable scholarly practice to use other people's books to find new references" is acceptable. By citing the author, and not just the news source, I also referenced the Huffington Post article in a way that complies with this policy too. I clearly wrote that Roggio made the claims and that Kaus criticized him. Knowledge (XXG) is not a Long War Journal fan page and I suggest you read the
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information is clearly stated in the LWJ and FDD website information backed up by secondary sources. Cherry picking all information from one source and ignoring additional information from other sources is the problem. Let's be clear the LWJ is a "project", "blog" of the FDD and not to mention that is misleading what brings us back to the problem we have to fix. You claim that all the information i have listed can not be sufficient verified? Yes we do use primary sources and here this information is backed up by two of them in addition to at least a secondary source with no contradiction.
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and claimed in it "A senior al Qaeda leader who is one of the terror group's most dangerous military commanders and strategists, and who was reportedly killed in a drone strike last June, has been spotted at a meeting with the leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan." I most certainly did
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Can't find any independent sources for "Public Multimedia" article, and most of it appears to be OR. There does however appear to be several sources talking about or citing "The Long War Journal", which redirects to this article. I'm not sure if there's enough to determine notability, but a rename to
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refers to personal conclusions and allows reliable conclusions. In fact, "A and B, therefore C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument in relation to the topic of the article." The input is quite reliable and refers to the same argument:the terrorist's fate. Roggio
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refers to personal conclusions and allows reliable conclusions. In fact, "A and B, therefore C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument in relation to the topic of the article." The input is quite reliable and refers to the same argument:the terrorist's fate. Roggio
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Cla68, i feel like you do not know what a NPOV tag is. The article is misleading. The problems have been clearly stated. Why don't you fix them? If nobody does than i am going to edit the article as soon as i get the time. Do you have further questions regarding the content issues? Then feel free to
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My earlier statement was "quoted as well as criticized." That doesn't exactly mean I said all the journalists sourced criticized him. The claim that the articles criticize the Long War Journal, which I never claimed, is also not necessary, as they firmly contradict the major input in the Long War
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My earlier statement was "quoted as well as criticized." That doesn't exactly mean I said all the journalists sourced criticized him. The claim that the articles criticize the Long War Journal, which I never claimed, is also not necessary, as they firmly contradict the major input in the Long War
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Cla68, to discuss on the talk page is not edit warring and adding sourced information to the article also not. Do i need to start an RFC to add sourced material to the article? You have not addressed my last arguments Wikireader41 refuses to take part in a civil debate at all and repeatedly removed
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I have to agree with the IP. Roggio also believed the Pakistan Taliban when they said Atiyah Rahman was still alive. Ayman Zawahiri personally confirmed his death several months later. He also insisted that the deputy leader of the ISI and Saad Bin Laden were still alive. Iraqi officials confirmed
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OK, I've done my best to add third party sources and context. These may not be as reliable as would be hoped since all sources are blogs. However, I would argue that due to the nature of context, namely that the Long War Journal has made a minor splash in the blogosphere, this is appropriate. I do
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In regards to the speedy deletion. This page is currently a stub, which I intend to expand upon or have others do so. I assume that the current shortness of the article is why it was tagged. As for context and importance: PMI appears to be associated with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies,
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Cla68. That the articles are almost entirely based on one source in not a good thing. It is always bad. There is no contradiction with this source for the additional information that i have listed. To add this additional information is not a significant shift of anything. It is a good thing. The
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1) The debate was started 2) The discussion about neutrality issues has not been stopped for more than a few days. 3) The problems in the article have not been resolved. 4) Not all editors have agreed to remove it. 5) Not all relevant arguments have been addressed. Do you want me to repeat these
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Cla68 the article is misleading, just to repeat me one more time. 1) The LWJ is a "project", "blog" of the FDD with their mission what has not been made clear in the lead sentences. 2) The LWJ is almost entirely written by FDD fellows. (just look at the last few years.) Most of the articles are
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Cla68 the tags can be remove when we have worked it out on the talk page. The article does not make clear that the LWJ is a project of the FDD and that it is written by FDD fellows and that has not changed. Why do we need secondary sources for this information while we do accept self published
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Because the lede is a summary. I think that both current tags are unnecessary. wikipedia only requires that editors be neutral NOT organizations/sources we use ( of course we need to give DUE weight to everyone in proportion to their prominence) . that is why New York Times with its liberal
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Iqinn, you've stated your case for why you think the article isn't neutral (doesn't mention the "neoconservative" FDD in the lede), but you haven't stated why you feel the article isn't factually accurate. You need to justify why you placed that tag on the article.
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There are a couple of problems with this addition to the article. First, the Huffington Post is a blog site, although I haven't checked to see if it is generally considered to be a reliable source in Knowledge (XXG). Second, it's from 2006, one year before
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Since no one else has agreed with you over two months that the article is NPOV, I'm going to remove the tag. We can revisit it if someone objects anew. My reasoning for why the sources and information you want to include are inappropriate are listed above.
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Iqinn, to put an NPOV tag on an article and then say you don't have time to work with other editors to fix it is not very helpful. I'm trying to work through the issue with you, but can't do so if are unable or unwilling to participate sufficiently.
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What is the connection between Bill Roggio, The Long War Journal and the neoconservative think tank "Foundation for Defense of Democracies"? The Long war Journal website in big says that it is a project of the "Foundation for Defense of Democracies"
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Iquinn my counterpoints did adress your concerns about the lede. you have not addressed both my and Cla68's concerns about why you think this article is not NPOV or factually incorrect. In any case Cla68 has made some changes so I am removing the
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and may act as an outlet for the advocacy of the group. Further, The Long War Journal has recently published a report on an incident involving piracy on an Iranian vessel in the Gulf of Aden that is getting some play in the internet rumor mill.
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got it wrong. Instead, it is attempting draw a conclusion and put it in Knowledge (XXG)'s voice, contrary to WP:SYN which states "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the
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I added mention of the FDD to the lede. Iqinn, do you have secondary sources about the LWJ staff being fellows for the FDD? If not, please justify why the NPOV tag should not be removed if you don't agree that it should now be removed.
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I agree on the significance of this page; it is worrying in the case of the MV Iran Deyanat how stories which originally appeared on the Long War Journal - and nowhere else - ended up being quoted by reputable news services as factual.
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at a meeting with the leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan." His reports about Baitullah Mehsud after his death were also controversial. He claimed US official confirmed to him "Baitullah is alive" after he was reported
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the November 2008 Predator strike in North Waziristan that was also thought to have killed Abu Zubair al Masri and two other al Qaeda operatives." In his report about Ilyas Kashmiri, he could've demonstrated neutrality by titling it
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Iquinn you are the one edit warring and placing unnecessary tags. consider this your final warning. Both me and Cla68 agree that the tags are unnecessary. you are the only one being disruptive and not willing to listen to sensible
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either written by Bill Roggio or Thomas Joscelyn. 3) Why is Thomas Joscelyn (also FDD fellow) not mentioned at all? He is the senior editor he and his role should be described. There are only a few key people and he is one of them.
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My edits were not based from own personal opinion at all and were quite neutral. Again, I suggest you read both Roggio's own articles and the synthesis page better next time. Roggio also titled an earlier article on the website
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the article. I think the only issue with it now is the question of notability. I think the topic is notable enough to have its own article. I welcome additional input. If others agree, we can remove the notability tag.
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leanings is a widely accepted & used source. the tags need to go. LWJ is a notable source widely quoted in media and who runs it and supports it is only of secondary importance not necessary to mention it in lede.--
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No, it was not tagged for being short, plenty of articles are valid stubs. I tagged this one because it does not indicate why the company is important or significant. Even if it survives speedy it will have to comply with
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Using the FDD website as a source and then putting that information in this article could be considered synthesis. Does the FDD website list Roggio and the others as fellows in the context of their work with the
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Iqinn, to make sure I understand correctly, your concern that the article isn't NPOV is because it doesn't mention that Bill Roggio and Paul Hanusz are fellows with the FDD? Is that your only concern?
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The article should clearly describe the key people and should clearly describe who is behind the website just to come back to the point where this discussion started. These points have not been fixed.
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I'm afraid the opinions expressed here are inaccurate and the content in my edit was quite reliable and neutral. Read Roggio's articles for yourselves. For example, he titled one article
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Why does the lede does not mention that the "Long War Journal" is a project of the neoconservative "Foundation for Defense of Democracies" and why does it not mention that Bill Roggio is a
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and claimed in it "A senior al Qaeda leader who is one of the terror group's most dangerous military commanders and strategists, and who was reportedly killed in a drone strike last June,
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the deputy leader is dead and Osama Bin Laden confirmed in his letters recovered in his mansion that Saad is dead. Roggio considers terrorists more reliable than government officials. --
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and claiming "A senior al Qaeda leader who is one of the terror group's most dangerous military commanders and strategists, and who was reportedly killed in a drone strike last June,
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I think it means that they are sponsored (i.e. at least partially funded) by that organization. Lacking a reliable, secondary, confirming source, however, I can't say for sure.
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to keep a certain POV. You have either to address all the given arguments what has not been done with most them or you agree that i edit the article by adding sourced material.
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Cla68, if you get the time or anyone else go ahead and fix these problems by editing the article. If nobody does than i am going to edit the article as soon as i get the time.
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appears to be synthesis, because it is your interpretation of what the sources are saying, not what they are actually saying. Also, the section on Roggio is from before the
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No not at all. you started the discussion I raised some valid counter points and you are deliberately avoiding answering them perhaps because you do not have an answer.--
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Wrong GregJackP. I typed my original request on the bottom page and it wound up here. The website needs technical improvements. I'll again try to put it on the bottom
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arguments? There is nothing that would justify the removal of the tag. So please stop edit warring and engage in a civil debate about the content issue. Thank you
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Iqinn, neither me nor Wikireader agree with your proposed changes to the article. Instead of edit warring, I suggest posting an RfC to invite expanded comment.
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I have clearly stated that and i suggest you stop addressing it instead of edit warring over a tag. There is no consensus to remove the tag at that point.
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is a notable, often quoted expert on counter terrorism issues related to AfPak. I dont see any notability issues at all. good work on LWJ article Cla68.--
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Why could that be synthesis? Seems to be just the question if it is sufficient verified. Yes the FDD website states that very clearly "Bill is the editor
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information about Roggio's support for conservative bloggers because that article does discuss the relationship in the context of Roggio's work for the
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I think i did. I started the discussion, i have stated the issue (my points) and i have told you that you did not address the issue (my points).
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and claimed in it "Rashid Rauf, an al Qaeda leader who is in charge of al Qaeda's external operations branch responsible for attacks in Europe,
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started, and comments on Roggio's blogging. So, I'm not sure the opinion is relevant for this article, perhaps instead for the Roggio article.
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He posted the RfC twice instead of moving it, so I opposed on each. The oppose directly above relates to his comment above, not the RfC.
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and claiming "Rashid Rauf, an al Qaeda leader who is in charge of al Qaeda's external operations branch responsible for attacks in Europe,
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Looking through these, I'd agree with you: the sources don't seem to match up with what's being claimed in the article.
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many vital projects contributing to international security." We should clearly tell our readers who is behind the LWJ.
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on procedural basis. The requestor of the RfC is clearly ignoring consensus from the above RfC, which just closed.
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on procedural basis. The requestor of the RfC is clearly ignoring consensus from the above RfC, which just closed.
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is a non partisan think tank. even if we believe that they are neocons no policy on wp prohibits them being given
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Might also be worth merging in with Bill Roggio, who seems to be running it all and has a deal of coverage. --
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Iqinn, why don't you put the exact, cited text you want to add to the article here and we'll discuss it.
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It needs to be known the website is not exactly 100% reliable and is arguably sensationalistic at times
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If there is no further reply than i am going to fix the stated problems accordingly starting tomorrow.
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Since the opinions appear to be unanimous so far, I will go ahead and remove the section in question.
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was started. Also, this criticism is already included in the article under "History and mission"
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There is a clear consensus, that the section is problematic and therefore it should be removed.
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Well, I checked the Kaus blog post and found that the it was misrepresented in the article, so
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that was also thought to have killed Abu Zubair al Masri and two other al Qaeda operatives."
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I agree with removal of the NPOV tag. it was completely unnecessary in the 1st place IMO.--
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In my opinion, the section has multiple issues. I will address it one bite at a time:
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called it "neoconservative". I don't think that is synthesis, because the article in
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The second paragraph is also synthesis. None of these sources actually say that the
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In his article about Rashid Rauf, he could've demonstrated neutrality by titling it
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information from the LWJ website? We usually do accept self published information.
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I Suggest you Read Both Roggio's Articles and the Synthesis Page Better Next Time
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IP, accusing other editors of being "fans" isn't very helpful. The section you
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It is perfectly fine to use as it has been dated and attributed to the author
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No discussion about neutrality issues was started on this article's talk page.
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Your counter points do not address my points. These things are not disputed.
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